Nasty AJ situation, middle stages of tourney

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ALEA £30 rebuy. 10 players left as 2 tables of 5.

Blinds: 400/800

Villian: 15,500
Hero: 19,000

Villian raises UTG to 2,100
Fold
Hero OTB raises to 5,500 with
Blinds fold
Villian goes all in
Hero

There's a slight bit of history here. Villian has only recently joined the table. On his first hand he raised, and folded to my 3-bet. We're about 5 or 6 hands later now. He's also raised one or two other pots prior to this that I wasn't involved in.

Couple of questions. Am I right to 3-bet here given the stack sizes? The raise is intentionally slightly on the small size to try and look less bluffy given the history, but i'm not sure if that's how this comes across? Am I now committed to call based on pot odds, or given how much I have left and what the blinds are should I fold and let this one go?
 
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What are the payouts and how many ITM?
 
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Top 4 paid. 550/300/200/100 or something along those lines.
 
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What is the average stack size?

Your geting 1,6-1 on your money so you need 38% equity against his range to break even.
This is the range u have 38% equity against
Hand 0: 38.259% 35.80% 02.46% 747926676 51314216.00 { AJs, AJo }
Hand 1: 61.741% 59.28% 02.46% 1238455772 51314216.00 { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, AQo+ }
It looks pretty wide for a 4bet shove considering his stack and i doubt he is shoving KT so imo his range looks more like this:
Hand 0: 34.387% 27.23% 07.16% 514699956 135352356.00 { AJs, AJo }
Hand 1: 65.613% 58.45% 07.16% 1104978948 135352356.00 { 88+, AJs+, AJo+ }

Even if u add some bluffs to his range cause of your history this is still a fold imo,u still have chips to play if u fold and chances are your dominated. Plenty of better spots bound to come along.

Beucause u 3-bet him just few hands earlyer and are in postion i be more inclined just to smooth call here with AJ to avoid exactly this situation.
 
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ALEA £30 rebuy. 10 players left as 2 tables of 5.

Blinds: 400/800

Villian: 15,500
Hero: 19,000

Villian raises UTG to 2,100
Fold
Hero OTB raises to 5,500 with
Blinds fold
Villian goes all in
Hero

There's a slight bit of history here. Villian has only recently joined the table. On his first hand he raised, and folded to my 3-bet. We're about 5 or 6 hands later now. He's also raised one or two other pots prior to this that I wasn't involved in.

Couple of questions. Am I right to 3-bet here given the stack sizes? The raise is intentionally slightly on the small size to try and look less bluffy given the history, but i'm not sure if that's how this comes across? Am I now committed to call based on pot odds, or given how much I have left and what the blinds are should I fold and let this one go?
I dont see anything wrong with the pf 3 bet. Even with the given history, I doubt he's making this move with less than AQ+ and TT+. Just lay this one down, you still have enough to play with
 
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What is the average stack size?

Your geting 1,6-1 on your money so you need 38% equity against his range to break even.
This is the range u have 38% equity against
Hand 0: 38.259% 35.80% 02.46% 747926676 51314216.00 { AJs, AJo }
Hand 1: 61.741% 59.28% 02.46% 1238455772 51314216.00 { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, AQo+ }
It looks pretty wide for a 4bet shove considering his stack and i doubt he is shoving KT so imo his range looks more like this:
Hand 0: 34.387% 27.23% 07.16% 514699956 135352356.00 { AJs, AJo }
Hand 1: 65.613% 58.45% 07.16% 1104978948 135352356.00 { 88+, AJs+, AJo+ }

Even if u add some bluffs to his range cause of your history this is still a fold imo,u still have chips to play if u fold and chances are your dominated. Plenty of better spots bound to come along.

Beucause u 3-bet him just few hands earlyer and are in postion i be more inclined just to smooth call here with AJ to avoid exactly this situation.

I was getting 2-1 (slighltly better than).

I called. He had JJ.
 
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Your right im an idiot,i thought he had u covered.
 
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Do you still fold given that and try and find a better spot or are these odds now too attractive to turn down?
 
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If I am in this position (even given his hand history) I fold and wait for a better spot. You still have plenty of chips to work with, and the 100 dollar difference between finish places tells me to sit back and let them fight it out till i have the best possible hand.
 
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Its a fold. Most likeley u are beat. Smooth call preflop is the best thing, because you have the positsion. If it was you OOP, i could see the reason of 3bet, but not on the button. And before gettin into this kind of situation, you have to think what are you going to do, if he shoves.
 
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think you are right to do this
as only few left at the tourney and high blinds its necessary to play aggressive if you arnt a sitter
but dont do that to often
cause then they know you bluffin
 
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I would simply call and not reraise his raise just to avoid getting in this position. A-J is a good hand, especially shorthanded, the risk of facing A-Q/A-K five-handed is actually smaller than facing A-K with A-Q on a nine-handed table. However, given your stack-size, I wouldn't want to play for all the money.

But, if I had reraised, I would have shoved, because a decent reraise leave him more or less pot committed, what happened now is that the pressure is on you. Because now you are also more or less committed to his all-in, and without the advantage of putting him to the test, as a shove would have caused. I suppose the stack is about 23-24 k, and you need 10 k to call his all-in, which means 2.4 to 1, a fairly easy call some people would say. But as I said, I would try to avoid this situation by either calling or shoving.
 
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