Minumum bets mean....?

nateofdeath

nateofdeath

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feel free to analyze how i played this hand, as i know it probably wasn't perfect, but as it was played, can anyone guess what my opponent had?

-n

pokerstars Game #3702363797: Tournament #18381428, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/01/20 - 21:46:38 (ET)
Table '18381428 20' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: dakotawillie (983 in chips)
Seat 2: DMASTERCARD (1189 in chips)
Seat 3: Hank4000 (3825 in chips)
Seat 4: RaSZi (1630 in chips)
Seat 5: mjtronza (605 in chips)
Seat 6: nateofdeath (2200 in chips)
Seat 7: hoopty3 (3240 in chips)
Seat 8: HAMMER1TIME (1540 in chips)
Seat 9: zwheel (2210 in chips)
DMASTERCARD: posts small blind 50
Hank4000: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nateofdeath [6h 6s]
RaSZi: folds
mjtronza: folds
nateofdeath: raises 200 to 300
hoopty3: folds
HAMMER1TIME: folds
zwheel: folds
dakotawillie: folds
DMASTERCARD: calls 250
Hank4000: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc Kc 4h]
DMASTERCARD: bets 100
nateofdeath: calls 100
*** TURN *** [Tc Kc 4h] [5d]
DMASTERCARD: bets 100
nateofdeath: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Tc Kc 4h 5d] [8d]
DMASTERCARD: bets 689 and is all-in
nateofdeath.....
 
SexyAceJoker

SexyAceJoker

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Can you give some information on your opponent, i saw this move before. And that time it was a bluff, you bet the min, with meant you where weak, since you where willing to put 300 more all the way to the river, you should of bet 300 on the flop to know just where you stand
 
SHERMSTICK

SHERMSTICK

Cardschat Elite
Guess

Nate:
I can only assume he caught the ten on the flop, thats why he only bet 100 and seeing cards on the flop were suited he had to call. I also say he bet 100 on the turn becuase you only called maybe trying to catch your trip six's, then he went all in on the river when he caught his pair of 10's and 8's leaving you wondering WTF.


SHERMSTICK:cool:
 
Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

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I believe that generally minimum bets from beginning to end signify that someone is chasing. Because he went all in on the river he either hit his hand or was bluffing. But because you made this post I am going to assume he wasn't bluffing and hit his hand. How about 6♣ 7♣ for a guess.
 
Jesus Lederer

Jesus Lederer

Rock Star
First of all your play was really poor. I don´t know the table situation (your opponent´s style, your table image if you have, etc.) so i won´t discuss the raise preflop, but calling down to the river is terrible. You don´t get any information about where are you standing in the hand. In the flop raise or flop.
I don´t believe that min betting mean something general to all players. It could mean weakness (like bottom pair, trying to get callers with A high or something else but without risking if the opponent has a monster), a draw (giving himself odds to continue), top pair with weak kicker, or monster (trying to build the pot). I don´t consider any of those situations acceptable to min bet, but if someone do it it can be for any reason. Anyway there is way to know what does it mean, but it depends on each player. If that player did that before, take note about that betting pattern (in your mind or use the online notes), because most likely he will repeat it for the same reason (weakness, draw, strength, etc).
I know that min betting is a betting pattern that has different meanings according to each player, and it´s really useful to know what it means because in some players you´ll see regularly that kind of bet. So i wouldn´t dare to assume why your opponent minraised and where were you standing, because there isn´t any information about his hand. Maybe he had KT, JQ, 44, A8, a busted flush draw, etc. A raise on the flop could fix that doubt.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

HELLO INTERNET
His flop bet is weak, either push there and then if you think there's a good enough chance this means weakness, or just fold on the flop.
 
nateofdeath

nateofdeath

Legend
in case anyone is interested, here are the results:

*** RIVER *** [Tc Kc 4h 5d] [8d]
DMASTERCARD: bets 689 and is all-in
nateofdeath: calls 689
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DMASTERCARD: shows [Jc Qd] (high card King)
nateofdeath: shows [6h 6s] (a pair of Sixes)
nateofdeath collected 2478 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2478 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Kc 4h 5d 8d]
Seat 1: dakotawillie (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DMASTERCARD (small blind) showed [Jc Qd] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: Hank4000 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: RaSZi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mjtronza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: nateofdeath showed [6h 6s] and won (2478) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 7: hoopty3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HAMMER1TIME folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: zwheel folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I never said i played the hand well. I was just pleased that however poorly i played the hand, he had the exact hand that i put him on. I didn't raise because i'd seen a lot of chasers, and figured he might call, leaving me with no real information and a rapidly deminishing chip stack. I mean if i raise on the flop and he calls, what does that tell me? That i've lost more money? Honestly, i could have imagined him calling me with top or even middle pair, let alone a draw, and any significent raise there would have left me with almost half my chips in the pot. I won't defend how i played the hand, but i didn't think i could afford to get cute with it.

-n
 
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Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

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Hmmm, well, I was partially right. He was chasing. I thought for sure this was going to be a bad beat thread though.
 
nateofdeath

nateofdeath

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Alon Ipser said:
Hmmm, well, I was partially right. He was chasing. I thought for sure this was going to be a bad beat thread though.

I've always prefered to post hands that i win, it sort of softens the blow from some of the harsher critizisms:) .

ultimatly, though, while it pains me to admit it, Jesus was right about the way i played the hand, and i wasn't going to show off my ineptitude unless it had a happy ending.

-n
 
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