Lol lost my QQ to 8 7c

[Michael69]

Stage #1217002998 Tourney ID 2032359 Holdem Multi Table Credit Tournament No Limit $60 - 2008-07-01 23:18:28 (ET)
Table: 9 (real money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 1 - DAKINS ($1185 in chips)
Seat 2 - K1LLER B ($430 in chips)
Seat 3 - OUTOFDEBT ($485 in chips)
Seat 4 - PEBBLECADDIE ($620 in chips)
Seat 5 - THESEXYDOC ($290 in chips)
Seat 6 - SULEIMAN ($460 in chips)
Seat 7 - MIBEAR ($455 in chips)
Seat 8 - RICHARD5150 ($305 in chips)
Seat 9 - RUCNMYHAND ($950 in chips)
THESEXYDOC - Posts small blind $30
SULEIMAN - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to RICHARD5150 [Qs Qd]
MIBEAR - Folds
RICHARD5150 - Raises $120 to $120
RUCNMYHAND - Calls $120
DAKINS - Folds
K1LLER B - Folds
OUTOFDEBT - Folds
PEBBLECADDIE - Calls $120
THESEXYDOC - Folds
SULEIMAN - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd 4c 6c]
RICHARD5150 - Checks
RUCNMYHAND - Checks
PEBBLECADDIE - Checks
*** TURN *** [Kd 4c 6c] 9♠
RICHARD5150 - Bets $60
RUCNMYHAND - Folds
PEBBLECADDIE - Calls $60
*** RIVER *** [Kd 4c 6c 9s] <font color='black'>5♣</font>
RICHARD5150 - Bets $60
PEBBLECADDIE - All-In(Raise) $440 to $440
RICHARD5150 - All-In $65
PEBBLECADDIE - returned ($315) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PEBBLECADDIE - Shows [8c 7c] (Straight flush, eight)
RICHARD5150 - Mucks
PEBBLECADDIE Collects $820 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($820)
Board [Kd 4c 6c 9s 5c]
Seat 1: DAKINS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: K1LLER B Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: OUTOFDEBT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: PEBBLECADDIE (dealer) won Total ($820) All-In HI$820) with Straight flush, eight [8c 7c - P:8c,P:7c,B:6c,B:5c,B:4c]
Seat 5: THESEXYDOC (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: SULEIMAN (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: MIBEAR Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: RICHARD5150 HI: [Mucked] [Qs Qd]
Seat 9: RUCNMYHAND Folded on the TURN


Lol this pissed me off..

 

[ph_il]

Shove PF.

 

[shinedown.45]

Stage #1217002998 Tourney ID 2032359 Holdem Multi Table Credit Tournament No Limit $60 - 2008-07-01 23:18:28 (ET)
Table: 9 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 1 - DAKINS ($1185 in chips)
Seat 2 - K1LLER B ($430 in chips)
Seat 3 - OUTOFDEBT ($485 in chips)
Seat 4 - PEBBLECADDIE ($620 in chips)
Seat 5 - THESEXYDOC ($290 in chips)
Seat 6 - SULEIMAN ($460 in chips)
Seat 7 - MIBEAR ($455 in chips)
Seat 8 - RICHARD5150 ($305 in chips)
Seat 9 - RUCNMYHAND ($950 in chips)
THESEXYDOC - Posts small blind $30
SULEIMAN - Posts big blind $60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to RICHARD5150 [Qs Qd]
MIBEAR - Folds
RICHARD5150 - Raises $120 to $120 (with the size of your chip stack, this should have been an auto-shove)
RUCNMYHAND - Calls $120
DAKINS - Folds
K1LLER B - Folds
OUTOFDEBT - Folds
PEBBLECADDIE - Calls $120
THESEXYDOC - Folds
SULEIMAN - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd 4c 6c]
RICHARD5150 - Checks
RUCNMYHAND - Checks
PEBBLECADDIE - Checks
*** TURN *** [Kd 4c 6c] 9♠
RICHARD5150 - Bets $60
RUCNMYHAND - Folds
PEBBLECADDIE - Calls $60
*** RIVER *** [Kd 4c 6c 9s] <font color='black'>5♣</font>
RICHARD5150 - Bets $60
PEBBLECADDIE - All-In(Raise) $440 to $440
RICHARD5150 - All-In $65
PEBBLECADDIE - returned ($315) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PEBBLECADDIE - Shows [8c 7c] (Straight flush, eight)
RICHARD5150 - Mucks
PEBBLECADDIE Collects $820 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($820)
Board [Kd 4c 6c 9s 5c]
Seat 1: DAKINS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: K1LLER B Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: OUTOFDEBT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: PEBBLECADDIE (dealer) won Total ($820) All-In HI$820) with Straight flush, eight [8c 7c - P:8c,P:7c,B:6c,B:5c,B:4c]
Seat 5: THESEXYDOC (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: SULEIMAN (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: MIBEAR Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: RICHARD5150 HI: [Mucked] [Qs Qd]
Seat 9: RUCNMYHAND Folded on the TURN


Lol this pissed me off..

Advice in red.
TBH, you have nobody to blame but yourself for this, a push preflop may have won you the pot preflop.

 

[naruto_miu]

I can't really even try to disagree with anyone on this, u really (no disrespect intended), should've really just pushed and hoped for the best

 

[Michael69]

yeah i know lol.

 

[bob_tiger]

Shove PF.

Agreed with math genius

 

[robwhufc]

What's with the stack sizes, did you all start with 500 or something?

you need to bet more preflop, but i'd want at least one caller with QQ so I'd make it 200 and push blind on the flop for the other $105, rather than go all-in initially which has more chance of just getting the blinds.

Post flop, as played you are pot committed so push. If they've got a king then you are out, but this looks like a luckfest tourney anyway.

 

[Michael69]

yeah we started with $500. it was a short stack turbo sattilite

 

[blankoblanco]

sorry but villain played the hand better than you did. sure his preflop call is bad given stacks, but you on the other hand misplayed every street.

 

[Kid Gutshot]

playability after the flop:
QQ is easily over valued, if you are out of position this maybe worth slow playing, see the flop, 2 suits on the flop and an over card the King, actually a really bad flop for Qs Qd, no flush possible for the Seigfried & Roy
Any king beats you anyone with 2 clubs now has a 36% chance to hit the flush on the turn, and a straight draw was not likely at the turn, but should be considered a possibility, So at that point a call or re-raise should indicate strength that may well not pursuing.
I'm trying to keep it simple, when playing pairs really your playability after the flop is limited, compared to suited connectors without getting out a calculator lets use an approximation Qs Qd 57% 8c7c 43% essentially its a coin toss or within a range % of 10+/-.
Without the benefit of being at a table in person, this also limits decision making and info you might get in that context.
I hope this gives you food for thought, the whole point of going all in is "protection", and really you want to get heads up with a high pair, reducing a multi way pot, stopping anyone with a weak to medium holding and putting the question to them to risk there chips pre-flop, hopefully getting heads up with the QQ, this increases your odds and if in a late position into the small blind you may likely pick up the blinds and Cadillac.
Kid Poker is probably the best at figuring out what opponents have, its well known and if you've watched him in action as many times as I have he actually is quiet clever in using that info, he sometimes put s the question to try and get info, Also hes projecting confusion and giving the impression he isn't sure when he actually has the nuts.
Start trying to figure out what people have got NOW, theres 5 cards after the flop if you didn't hit the flop your opponent probably did, so don't be a hero and try bluff the table, whats that Kenny Rogers song?.
So yes the above advice to shove has merit, but honestly I think Q Q is over valued same as AJ AQ id rather go all in with Ah Jh then Q Q,simply my playability after the flop gives me a flush, straight, straight flush potential, with just a pair I've only got 3kind and even more unlikely a Full house more unlikely again 4 of a kind which I believe to hit 4 of a kind on the flop is 0.991%, that off top my head I get bored and do poker math for fun, so if im wrong im sure someone will gladly indicate this, however these are approximates not absolutes. Good Luck and take care :angel:

 

[douglat]

from what I see this your fault.

You needed to push action pre flop you left him in hand too long..