Limit vs NL ?



Oct 9, 2006
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I don't post a lot in here cause well I'm inherently brilliant, and don't need your stinking advice. (laugh here please)

This one got me though.....

full tilt poker Game #2984652433: $200 Freeroll (21371212), Table 35 - 30/60 - Limit Hold'em - 14:08:27 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: btmccracken (1,305)
Seat 2: X13YOSEF125Y (1,320)
Seat 3: njcoan142 (1,455), is sitting out
Seat 4: gotpocket_1s (1,455), is sitting out
Seat 5: roza_3840 (1,800)
Seat 6: Voodoo Girl (1,740)
Seat 7: nilgiri (1,470), is sitting out
Seat 8: dj1113 (1,500)
Seat 9: Habyak (1,455)
nilgiri posts the small blind of 15
dj1113 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dj1113 [Qs Ts]
Habyak calls 30
btmccracken folds
X13YOSEF125Y calls 30
njcoan142 folds
gotpocket_1s folds
roza_3840 folds
Voodoo Girl has 15 seconds left to act
Voodoo Girl calls 30
nilgiri folds
dj1113 checks
*** FLOP *** [8s Ah Qd] This is limit, what the hell....
dj1113 bets 30
Habyak has 15 seconds left to act
Habyak calls 30
X13YOSEF125Y calls 30
Voodoo Girl folds
*** TURN *** [8s Ah Qd] [9h]
dj1113 bets 60
Habyak calls 60 No raise?
X13YOSEF125Y calls 60
*** RIVER *** [8s Ah Qd 9h] [Td]
dj1113 bets 60
Habyak raises to 120
X13YOSEF125Y calls 120
dj1113 folds He has a Jack, clearly.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Habyak shows [Th Qh] two pair, Queens and Tens
X13YOSEF125Y mucks
Habyak wins the pot (705) with two pair, Queens and Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 705 | Rake 0
Board: [8s Ah Qd 9h Td]
Seat 1: btmccracken didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: X13YOSEF125Y mucked [Ac 3h] - a pair of Aces
Seat 3: njcoan142 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: gotpocket_1s didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: roza_3840 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Voodoo Girl (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: nilgiri (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: dj1113 (big blind) folded on the River

Should I have called mainly because this is limit? If this was NL, I have no problem folding here.
Emperor IX

Emperor IX

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May 28, 2007
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I would've check-called here, I'd be willing to risk 60 to see if he had one. You had good reason to fold to his raise, but I probably wouldn't have.


Mar 15, 2005
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it was 60 more to you, you were already far invested into the pot you my as well have called clearly due to pot odds. Its hard sometimes though, because it is limit and if you are clearly beat, then honestly you my as well save your 60, but if there is any inclination that you could have him beat, I would call just for pot odds. Plus it was a 200 free roll so you my as well call


May 28, 2007
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Definitely call, that's the thing about limit you can take those risks without losing to much.


Apr 1, 2007
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With it being limit I would call it here. It is not taking a massive munch of your stack and you wont really feel a hit if you lose the hand


Apr 16, 2007
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You're behind a lot of hands here, while crushing others who might've stayed in (lower two pairs, high ace, etc.). Betting in this spot will accomplish nothing since you'll only get called by hands that split the pot or beat you and raised (usually) by hands that have you beat (any J, 6,7, set, etc.). You'll save a bet if you check/call often enough to justify checking it down. Plus, with two people in the pot, you're facing maybe a bet/raise if you check it and thus save one bet in this situation also (without investing anything and folding knowing very well that you're beat).

Turn, maybe I check/raise myself, since with 2 callers, one will bet and we might get the guy who is drawing out of the pot and represent a big Ace. Showdown might be cheaper two if one folds and the other is confronted to you maybe having made a set or, two pairs, etc. But who am I kidding, this is a 200$ freeroll, people play their cards (badly), as we've seen by the raise on the river.