how badly did i play this hand?

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pokerstars Hand #119093476515: Tournament #940478546, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2014/07/22 17:20:34 CET [2014/07/22 11:20:34 ET]
Table '940478546 138' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: IALIN (3696 in chips)
Seat 2: Weiner_Slap (6976 in chips)
Seat 3: aruba10 (15294 in chips)
Seat 4: jasven06 (13912 in chips)
Seat 5: vonny-w (7743 in chips)
Seat 6: sha4nimen (27288 in chips)
Seat 7: Jake-calls (31841 in chips)
Seat 8: Fiao RP (40413 in chips)
Seat 9: KarstenLud (6260 in chips)
IALIN: posts the ante 50
Weiner_Slap: posts the ante 50
aruba10: posts the ante 50
jasven06: posts the ante 50
vonny-w: posts the ante 50
sha4nimen: posts the ante 50
Jake-calls: posts the ante 50
Fiao RP: posts the ante 50
KarstenLud: posts the ante 50
KarstenLud: posts small blind 200
IALIN: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to vonny-w [Ac Kd]
Weiner_Slap: folds
aruba10: raises 400 to 800
jasven06: folds
vonny-w: raises 1200 to 2000
sha4nimen: folds
Jake-calls: calls 2000
Fiao RP: folds
KarstenLud: folds
IALIN: raises 1646 to 3646 and is all-in
aruba10: folds
vonny-w: raises 4047 to 7693 and is all-in
Jake-calls: calls 5693
*** FLOP *** [5d Qh 6d]
*** TURN *** [5d Qh 6d] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [5d Qh 6d 5h] [8s]

I am trying to blame my own play for everytime i go out and not blame the site or the player in this case guy with kq who shouldn't of been in the pot in the first place . I could of smooth called the early position raiser and kq would of payed the 800 then guy with ak would of shoved his shortstack and i woujld of came over the top and kq isn't getting the right odds and therefore should fold or i reraise higher to say 3200 and he really should be folding kq off there and im still in the tourney is this the correct way to look over this particular hand or am i way off on my thinking? Its just im trying to fix leaks in my game which are costing me tournies and money cause at the end of the day alot of hands i will go out on i could of played better
 
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you have a little under 20BBs, i think it's fine to shove the AK there, 3betting smaller isn't really ideal when you're this shallow because you'll have to be folding a lot of flops.
 
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Nothing wrong with going all in in this spot holding AK. You were one of the shorter stack and after the initial raise itself, i would have 3bet shoved all in. If we lose to a pocket pair then it happens - coinflip. But there is a small chance if everypne folds that villain might fold as well and can take down a decent pot pre flop.And to answer your question - no you did not play this hand bad.:rolleyes:
 
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It is one of those situations where you don't have any other options but to go all in with your ace king you did everything slandered and if you lose to an over pair then you can say Operation Was A Success But The Patient Died
 
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good call sometimes you need to take a chance when your under 20 big blinds and hope for some luck
 
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Well, given under 20 BBs, there are very few good reasons not to commit your chips pre holding AK. I can make an argument why I like the ship a little better than the 3B here, but the 3B is fine. I would, however, make it larger so that you show your opponent(s) that you will be committing all your chips.

In this case, I like go n go bet sizing - take the 3B to about 2.5K and this way you'll have a ship bet on any flop that will be just under pot-sized (assuming 1 caller).
 
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keep it simple, just shove it. You can make it smaller, but there's pros and cons of doing it.

Since we have a lot of big stacks left to act who can pretty easily call a 2k-2.5k raise, then just shoving is best.
 
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Yeah agree with WiZZiM just 3B shove, don't get fancy because when called and you brick it's just way to tough unless you have position. You also want to maximise fold equity even with your big hands and hope to get calls from AJ/AQ and people might even fold 66-99 hands depending on your image and this is a great pick up in chips.

The problem with your sizing is that your hand is still vulnerable. You also want to keep your range balanced although I guess it doesn't matter in these sort of games but with 20bb facing a raise you should be 3B shoving ALL your range even the bluffs and your top value hands like AA just so you can't really be exploited. Just ask yourself what you would do with 77 for example next time which has same equity as like AK, I think you would very likely just shove over rather than the small 3Bs.
 
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