Double or nothing - A9s flops second pair and turns flush draw

[Mr.Flushee]

Its one of those double or nothing tournaments. i had doubled up earlier in the game and than this happened, wasnt to sure if i shoulda called





pokerstars Game #20907364644: Tournament #111983420, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/10/03 21:39:04 ET
Table '111983420 1' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: NevasD (1430 in chips)
Seat 3: Burntwood56 (1520 in chips)
Seat 4: Rayser (1830 in chips)
Seat 6: Dvillekiller (1525 in chips)
Seat 7: Cabeza2000 (1460 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: foursover10s (1200 in chips)
Seat 9: Whatthe555 (2985 in chips)
Seat 10: plr82 (3050 in chips)
NevasD: posts the ante 5
Burntwood56: posts the ante 5
Rayser: posts the ante 5
Dvillekiller: posts the ante 5
Cabeza2000: posts the ante 5
foursover10s: posts the ante 5
Whatthe555: posts the ante 5
plr82: posts the ante 5
Rayser: posts small blind 25
Dvillekiller: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Whatthe555 [Ah 9h]
Cabeza2000: folds
foursover10s: calls 50
Whatthe555: calls 50
plr82: folds
NevasD: folds
Burntwood56: folds
Rayser: calls 25
Dvillekiller: checks
*** FLOP *** [7s Jh 9d]
Rayser: checks
Dvillekiller: bets 50
foursover10s: folds
Whatthe555: calls 50
Rayser: calls 50
*** TURN *** [7s Jh 9d] [4h]
Rayser: checks
Dvillekiller: bets 1420 and is all-in
Whatthe555: folds
Rayser: folds
Uncalled bet (1420) returned to Dvillekiller
Dvillekiller collected 390 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 390 | Rake 0
Board [7s Jh 9d 4h]
Seat 1: NevasD folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Burntwood56 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rayser (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Dvillekiller (big blind) collected (390)
Seat 7: Cabeza2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: foursover10s folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Whatthe555 folded on the Turn
Seat 10: plr82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Wonka22]

Kinda early to worry about going all in on him..give it up....I would give him the benefit of the doubt having a jack...unless you know he's been stealing....even then....with your stack just playing a conservative game in a double or nothing you shoul dmake it...the good news about these tourneys is that you don't have to win you have to have chips when someone goes out 6th....

 

[p0K35]

humm, this is a slightly interesting post. Let's ignore the donkarific aspect of these donkfests, and actually look at the hand.

Level 3, 25/50 with a 5 ante, smells of a turbo, but ok.

Seems your MP with [Ah 9h], and you limp, with already 1 limper. Probably what the tbl does. Sure, folds to the SB, who completes, and the BB checks(who is villain). Think this makes the pot 240 with antes and limps.

Flop [7s Jh 9d]

Humm, not a great flop, not a disaster. Villain leads out for 50. Not much you can make outta that bet. Seems like a std donk bet, blocking?, trapping?, bluffing?, who knows. Methinks this bet actually provides some info, what, not sure, but let's give villain the doubt, and that means, I have something???? Makes it cheap for the rest of the pack to come along...

You call, floating the card is OK, and the check/call SB calls.

Turn [4h]

This is where this gets slightly interesting... Pot would now be 390.

Ok, what's u got? middle pr with backdoor fldr. What does everyone else have? Actually, you should think this before calling the min flop bet, but let's think now.

What card are you looking for on the turn? Really, what is the best card for you? A 9?, an A, a heart? What?

The flop is str heavy, and the turn brings the fl draw. 8T, has the made str, and any 2 hearts will probably flushy here. What do you beat? U basically drawing to the nut fl, trips, or a better 2pr.

SB checks, BB(villain) pushes? 1420 into a 390 pot? wtf? bluff, maybe, made hand semi-bluff overbet, maybe? Has villain done this before? Why would they do that?

OK, should u call? NO, why:

There is still another similar stack left to act, so you kinda squeezed here. But you need to call 1/2 your stack to win 1.5 with basically a fl dr. The SB calling would help your odds here, but, you can't count on that. Just not getting the proper odds here.

You played the hand weak, saw a cheap flop, saw a cheap turn, and folded to aggression.

 

[blazed98]

not really that easy fold pair and gutshot draw you need more than that

 

[josh_dei8]

pok35 analyzied the hand very well and broke it down great
I think it is easy fold with just middle pair and hoping to hit your draw. You are pretty well guarranteed the money if you just play smart from where you are at. No sense putting that at risk.

 

[Wonka22]

It was explained well, I just don't think it needed explained...LOL

If you fold and play tight poker you're going to make the top 5.....if you call and the guy has a jack and you don't improve you're close to being the bubble boy....

 

[Lemlywinks]

this is a definite fold. You don't need to win these and you are in a perfect position to make the money.

sit tight, and only play the most premium of hands. Seriously i have cashed in this playing 8% of my hands. QQ and AQ were the only hands i saw the flop with

 

[Cilderr]

its a donkament, so you have to fold, because that other player can have anything. No point of risking your stack with A9 and middle pair in that phase.

 

[dj11]

At the money mark in these the average will be 3000 chips needed. You are close and need to look for one more hand, but this isn't it!

Fold

 

[mvelas]

ok this is what i do, before flop, raise, after the flop bet, reraise, and in the turn i fold if he goes all in... by just calling on the flop on a 1 $ buy in u r not takin info, he could have go all in with a straight draw or pockets eights. he could have trips or whatever... ur actually posting this because u did not take enough info and dont know to put this guy in a hand. GL next time

 

[Mr.Flushee]

thanks for all the info u can close this post down if wanted mod

 

[ripclawph]

fold it right away... unless you have good read that he is bluffin.

 

[pitter22]

you played this hand right... A9 suited your lookin for basically a flush or something sick like two pair or trips. A9 os you fold in this position.. anyways..

limp PF here is the right play. get in cheap. you have one 9 now. this isnt good enough in a pot like this. but you have one heart.

your looking for a cheap way to a A or 9 or maybe another heart. if its a 100 bet then you fold but its 50 so you call.

another heart. this is good. pots at almost 400. your looking to spend 200 MAX (400 + 200 + 200 = 800:200 = 4:1) to see if you make trips, two pair, or flush. 1420 ??????????? thats 7x more than you wanted for a DRAW. insta fold. and laugh at him for not making a value bet to extract more chips from you. if you miss the river

 

[switch0723]

humm, this is a slightly interesting post. Let's ignore the donkarific aspect of these donkfests, and actually look at the hand.

Level 3, 25/50 with a 5 ante, smells of a turbo, but ok.

Seems your MP with [Ah 9h], and you limp, with already 1 limper. Probably what the tbl does. Sure, folds to the SB, who completes, and the BB checks(who is villain). Think this makes the pot 240 with antes and limps.

Flop [7s Jh 9d]

Humm, not a great flop, not a disaster. Villain leads out for 50. Not much you can make outta that bet. Seems like a std donk bet, blocking?, trapping?, bluffing?, who knows. Methinks this bet actually provides some info, what, not sure, but let's give villain the doubt, and that means, I have something???? Makes it cheap for the rest of the pack to come along...

You call, floating the card is OK, and the check/call SB calls.

Turn 4♥

This is where this gets slightly interesting... Pot would now be 390.

Ok, what's u got? middle pr with backdoor fldr. What does everyone else have? Actually, you should think this before calling the min flop bet, but let's think now.

What card are you looking for on the turn? Really, what is the best card for you? A 9?, an A, a heart? What?

The flop is str heavy, and the turn brings the fl draw. 8T, has the made str, and any 2 hearts will probably flushy here. What do you beat? U basically drawing to the nut fl, trips, or a better 2pr.

SB checks, BB(villain) pushes? 1420 into a 390 pot? wtf? Bluff, maybe, made hand semi-bluff overbet, maybe? Has villain done this before? Why would they do that?

OK, should u call? NO, why:

There is still another similar stack left to act, so you kinda squeezed here. But you need to call 1/2 your stack to win 1.5 with basically a fl dr. The SB calling would help your odds here, but, you can't count on that. Just not getting the proper odds here.

You played the hand weak, saw a cheap flop, saw a cheap turn, and folded to aggression.

kudos for a very nice post. Just had to pop in to say that what he says ^^^^ sums everything up.

Also why do you have a man wearing pants as your avatar?