br contest freeroll

[pokerjes]

fulltiltpoker Game #7480378601: Cardschat.com $200 Freeroll (56555435), Table 6 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:22:27 ET - 2008/08/02
Seat 1: Effexor (2,820)
Seat 3: W1nW1tAny2Crdz (4,232)
Seat 5: jaymfc420 (4,658)
Seat 6: JES 21 (420)
Seat 7: dsvw56 (150), is sitting out
Seat 8: PooffyFooffy (1,750)
Seat 9: treebor55 (1,110)
Effexor posts the small blind of 80
W1nW1tAny2Crdz posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JES 21 [Qd Ks]
jaymfc420 folds
JES 21 raises to 420, and is all in
dsvw56 folds
PooffyFooffy folds
treebor55 folds
Effexor calls 340
W1nW1tAny2Crdz has 15 seconds left to act
W1nW1tAny2Crdz has requested TIME
W1nW1tAny2Crdz folds
JES 21 shows [Qd Ks]
Effexor shows [6d 6h]
*** FLOP *** [4c 2d 8h]
*** TURN *** [4c 2d 8h] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4c 2d 8h 3c] [3s]
JES 21 shows a pair of Threes
Effexor shows two pair, Sixes and Threes
Effexor wins the pot (1,000) with two pair, Sixes and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Duration 55s
Total pot 1,000 | Rake 0
Board: [4c 2d 8h 3c 3s]
Seat 1: Effexor (small blind) showed [6d 6h] and won (1,000) with two pair, Sixes and Threes
Seat 3: W1nW1tAny2Crdz (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: jaymfc420 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: JES 21 showed [Qd Ks] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: dsvw56 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: PooffyFooffy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: treebor55 (button) didn't bet (folded)

well here is the hand that knocked me out the more i look at it i should have let it go because there was a lot after me that has not acted yet, or was i right for pushing, i will try to find the hand that got me in this spot its puzzling also

 

[c9h13no3]

Your M = 1.75. You should have made a move far before you got to this point.

I shove K2 in this spot, KQ is a monster.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Yeah, you had a coinflip here which is the best you can hope for when you make this push. I hope you got short stacked by losing a big hand, not by waiting too long to make a stand. Totally standard push.

 

[pokerjes]

my other thread explains how i got to this point its br contest freeroll hand 2

 

[ncmtngirl79]

lol, I am reading this and just get kq at the table I am playing, can you write a story about aa hmmm! Def good move, toatal coin flip same as ak or any other two over cards, you took a chance lost out just keep trucking!

 

[Effexor]

You push was the right move.

I was at your table a little while and the thing I noticed was that you limp folded with low M. For example:

full tilt poker Game #7479972605: Cardschat.com $200 Freeroll (56555435), Table 6 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:43:04 ET - 2008/08/02
Seat 1: Effexor (820)
Seat 2: belladonna05 (1,110), is sitting out
Seat 3: CAPT ZIGZAG (5,020)
Seat 4: uwanrumpwitme (1,830)
Seat 5: jaymfc420 (970)
Seat 6: JES 21 (800)
Seat 7: dsvw56 (800), is sitting out
Seat 8: PooffyFooffy (2,220)
Seat 9: treebor55 (1,230)
treebor55 posts the small blind of 40
Effexor posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [5s 2d]
belladonna05 folds
CAPT ZIGZAG calls 80
uwanrumpwitme calls 80
jaymfc420 folds
JES 21 calls 80
dsvw56 folds
PooffyFooffy folds
treebor55 calls 40
Effexor checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 2s Qc]
treebor55 checks
Effexor bets 240
CAPT ZIGZAG calls 240
uwanrumpwitme calls 240
JES 21 folds

Full Tilt poker game #7479988226: Cardschat.com $200 Freeroll (56555435), Table 6 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:44:37 ET - 2008/08/02
Seat 1: Effexor (2,120)
Seat 2: belladonna05 (1,110), is sitting out
Seat 3: CAPT ZIGZAG (4,700)
Seat 4: uwanrumpwitme (1,010)
Seat 5: jaymfc420 (970)
Seat 6: JES 21 (720)
Seat 7: dsvw56 (800), is sitting out
Seat 8: PooffyFooffy (2,220)
Seat 9: treebor55 (1,150)
Effexor posts the small blind of 40
belladonna05 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [2c Ad]
CAPT ZIGZAG folds
uwanrumpwitme folds
jaymfc420 calls 80
JES 21 calls 80
dsvw56 folds
PooffyFooffy is sitting out
PooffyFooffy folds
treebor55 calls 80
Effexor folds
belladonna05 checks
*** FLOP *** [9s Qh 8d]
belladonna05 checks
jaymfc420 checks
JES 21 checks
treebor55 checks
*** TURN *** [9s Qh 8d] 9♥
belladonna05 checks
jaymfc420 has 15 seconds left to act
jaymfc420 bets 160
JES 21 folds

In those 2 hands, by limp folding you lost 20% of your stack.

Playing loose and passive isn't good, specially with a short stack. Tighten up your starting hand selection and come in with a raise instead.

 

[Effexor]

Heres another hand you played with some suggestions.

pokerstars GAME #19104830835: TOURNAMENT #96580146, $2.00+$0.20 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2008/07/25 - 23:06:41 (ET)
Table '96580146 152' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: dangerdavea (1510 in chips)
Seat 2: Schagger10 (2130 in chips)
Seat 3: mcomdog (880 in chips)
Seat 4: Effexor1 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: .Math.Duff. (1590 in chips)
Seat 6: bellamad (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: qhscoachv (3430 in chips)
Seat 8: HeistGnWrong (2640 in chips)
Seat 9: JES21 (3680 in chips)
JES21: posts small blind 10
dangerdavea: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor1 [Tc 8s]
Schagger10: folds
mcomdog: folds
Effexor1: folds
.Math.Duff.: folds
bellamad: folds
qhscoachv: folds
HeistGnWrong: folds
JES21: raises 40 to 60

Raises with low blinds relative to stack sizes should be more on the order of a larger % of stack size and not just 3xBB. Should raise to 100-120 or so here. Plus, people that can't fold always assume you are making a play and stealing the blinds so their calling range is huge in this spot.


dangerdavea: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [5h Ts 2h]
JES21: bets 60

Betting half the pot here, once again is weak. As played, with such a dry flop, bet the pot. If you had raised more PF, then 2/3 pot bet would have been good in this spot.

dangerdavea: calls 60
*** TURN *** [5h Ts 2h] 9♣
JES21: bets 80

Now you bet out for 1/3 the pot. This in effect does nothing. Any draws will call, overs, any pairs etc. At this point you are bluffing poorly. If you had an over pair, you wouldn't bet 1/3 the pot. It's just a bad bet here.

dangerdavea: calls 80
*** RIVER *** [5h Ts 2h 9c] 4♥
JES21: bets 100

And now you bet 1/4 of the pot on a dead bluff all the while showing weakness on every street.

dangerdavea: raises 100 to 200
JES21: calls 100

What hand raises you here that you beat?

*** SHOW DOWN ***
dangerdavea: shows [5c Qs] (a pair of Fives)
JES21: mucks hand
dangerdavea collected 800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Board [5h Ts 2h 9c 4h]
Seat 1: dangerdavea (big blind) showed [5c Qs] and won (800) with a pair of Fives
Seat 2: Schagger10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mcomdog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Effexor1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: .Math.Duff. folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bellamad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: qhscoachv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HeistGnWrong (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JES21 (small blind) mucked [Ad Kd]

 

[dj11]

On the original hand here, you were right to shove from any position.

Change the scenario just a bit and you might give pause to entering this pot, but most of us would shove here.

If someone with a bigger stack were to shove before you, then you might, repeat MIGHT, consider laying this hand down. How long are you going to wait, how long CAN you wait? Not very long. So even in that alternate universe you would have to call.

I agree that you probably should have been more active a bit earlier. Not necessarily a lot more active, but learn the signs for increased opportunities, and exploit them.