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ITM in $21,000 Guarantee. Didn't have much in the way of reads on this guy. I didn't think I had much FE but I felt this minraise on the flop was complete BS. With his stack size, if he has top pair or spades he's pushing.

What do you put him on? I put him on a midpair or bottom pair (AT, A9, 8:cool: or complete air. Anyway, even if he's calling I'm gambling here with my stack.

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Full Tilt, 1,200/2,400 blinds, 300 ante NL Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BTN: 19,057 (7.9 bb)
SB: 39,326 (16.4 bb)
BB: 49,088 (20.5 bb)
UTG+1: 30,193 (12.6 bb)
UTG+2: 92,907 (38.7 bb)
Hero (MP1): 113,471 (47.3 bb)
MP2: 43,236 (18 bb)
MP3: 63,622 (26.5 bb)
CO: 48,031 (20 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with Q
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2 folds, Hero raises to 6,000, 2 folds, CO calls 6,000, 3 folds

Flop: (18,300) 9
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T
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J
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Hero bets 10,000, CO raises to 20,000, Hero raises to 84,000
 
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Seems like a 'feeler' bet to see where you're at and perhaps price you out of any but the strongest draws. I'm guessing he's got one pair at the moment.
 
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HH converter is messing up for me, pot size should be like $21,000. Anyway, I agree he has one pair (not Jacks either) or complete air. My bet is standard continuation-bet size and everyone tries to pick those off these days. If I had AJ or QQ+ here I'd bet 2/3 to pot size but since I'm the one drawing I bet half-pot.

I'd play this the same if I had KQ of spades.
 
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What do you think your image was? Have you been pretty active so that the CO might float you with AJ+, KQ, QJ, JT or even T9? I don't see how CO would fold to your reraise once CO has half their stack committed. This smells like a trap against a player that has been active and aggressive.
 
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my guess would probably be JQ open ender and top pair if he was reraising you. THAT or a feeler bet. HOwever your reraise is weird. Howd the hand play out after?
 
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My image was very bad at this table, which is not normal for me.

I had been caught stealing in a BvB battle and sucked out, I shoved over a squeezer with AJ and won (he had KQo) and I also happened to get a lot of good hands recently.
 
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Then I'm leaning toward a float/trap or slow played AA/KK.
 
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my guess would probably be JQ open ender and top pair if he was reraising you. THAT or a feeler bet. HOwever your reraise is weird. Howd the hand play out after?

Don't you think he would shove with top pair? Too many scare cards can come.

I sized the reraise fairly randomly. I think it's more intimidating than shoving all in for some reason. It's like, here's a raise that's 4x your stack, so even if I lose I still have plenty. Either that, or I like to raise to a number that's 1 chip less than his remaining stack, it annoys people when they actually have to raise instead of call.

I put my pot equity to around 30-40% here if you include some air, it can be even more, so I'm priced in.

These types of things can put the whole table on tilt.

I'm not saying what happened until I get more responses.
 
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Don't you think he would shove with top pair? Too many scare cards can come.

I have seen too many players play AA/KK exactly this way.

If you had KQ wouldn't you make it a bit easier for the opponent to stack here with a larger bet? Your bet sizing left the door open for the opponent to have 3 choices instead of 2. Would 5000-8000 more on the flop bet made that huge of a difference in your stack?

Converter appears right. 9x300=2700+1200+2400+6000+6000=18300, CO stack after flop = 41731

pot after your bet = 28300 if you had bet 15000 = 33300 if you had bet 18300 = 36600
 
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Good points. I ran into AA about five times yesterday in a single tournament!

Three of them slowplayed like this.
 
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good shove. way too many outs to lay it. hate his play with the min raise. makes me think AA/kk. sick.
 
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With his stack size and size of the pot I have odds to crack AA/KK. Anyway, he FOLDED!
 
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Wow, must be nice :D to have a player just give away chips. NH :smile:
 
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