Analysis of Effexor's $5 STT

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Switching it up a little with a STT instead of ring. Again, hope my thoughts and opinions helps you in some way, Effexor.

full tilt poker Game #2339618924: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:04:20 ET - 2007/05/02
WD6704 posts the small blind of 15
Effexor posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [As Js]

Good but not great starting hand. We need to make sure we don't get too involved if we flop an ace. I try not to get my stack in with it without 2 pair or better.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
japspy folds
izzyrose0125 folds
schmidty22 calls 30
joser858 calls 30
auroraaces66 calls 30
WD6704 calls 15
Effexor raises to 90

If we're raising here then we need to raise a much bigger amount. We'll be out of position the rest of the hand with a marginal holding. This is just a pot-sweetening bet; any potential caller is getting massive pot odds and has to call.

schmidty22 folds
joser858 calls 60
auroraaces66 calls 60
WD6704 calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Jc 5h Jh]
WD6704 checks
Effexor bets 180

Nice-sized bet here (~1/2 pot). Any pair is probably sticking around to at least see the turn.

joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
WD6704 folds
Uncalled bet of 180 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (390)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 390 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc 5h Jh]
Seat 1: WD6704 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Effexor (big blind) collected (390), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: schmidty22 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: joser858 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (button) folded on the Flop


Full Tilt poker game #2339639699: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:06:54 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 1: WD6704 (1,440)
Seat 2: Effexor (1,770)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,470)
Seat 4: Slikker T (1,500)
Seat 5: japspy (1,500)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,500)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (1,470)
Seat 8: joser858 (1,440)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,410)
butterface99 posts the small blind of 15
Slikker T posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Qs Kd]
japspy folds
izzyrose0125 folds
schmidty22 calls 30
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
WD6704 calls 30
Effexor raises to 90

Again too small. I don't mind limping here, either. KQ is pretty much the definition of a trouble hand.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
schmidty22 calls 60
WD6704 folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 3d Js]
schmidty22 checks
Effexor checks

This is a pretty good flop for us. Open-ender plus overcards and a backdoor flush draw. We should be tossing out a c-bet here most of the time. A check behind will give us that free turn card, of course, but we show a lot of weakness by doing so.

*** TURN *** [Td 3d Js] J♣
schmidty22 bets 120
Effexor folds

By checking the flop there, he thinks you're weak now and could be betting with anything. A ten, trips, KQ himself, lots of stuff.

Uncalled bet of 120 returned to schmidty22
schmidty22 mucks
schmidty22 wins the pot (255)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 255 | Rake 0
Board: [Td 3d Js Jc]
Seat 1: WD6704 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Effexor (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: butterface99 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Slikker T (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: schmidty22 collected (255), mucked
Seat 8: joser858 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 didn't bet (folded)


Full Tilt Poker Game #2339686336: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:12:39 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,680)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,395)
Seat 4: Slikker T (1,455)
Seat 5: japspy (1,710)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,645)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (1,325)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,600)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,690)
joser858 posts the small blind of 20
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [8d 6d]
Effexor calls 40

Very easy fold. STTs can be played (and won) in many different ways, but in my experience the ideal way to play them is super tight early on, then gradually loosen up as the blinds get higher. We have no reason to get involved here.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
japspy folds
izzyrose0125 folds
schmidty22 calls 40
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2c 8c]
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor bets 40

40 into a 140 pot is just asking to be called. Put out a more significant bet, and you'll scare out those ATs (see below ;))

schmidty22 calls 40
auroraaces66 folds
*** TURN *** [Kd 2c 8c] [Th]
Effexor bets 40
schmidty22 calls 40
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2c 8c Th] 9♠
Effexor bets 40
schmidty22 calls 40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Effexor shows [8d 6d] (a pair of Eights)
schmidty22 shows [Ts Ah] (a pair of Tens)
schmidty22 wins the pot (380) with a pair of Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 380 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd 2c 8c Th 9s]
Seat 2: Effexor showed [8d 6d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 3: butterface99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (button) showed [Ts Ah] and won (380) with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: joser858 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #2339694051: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:13:37 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,520)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,395)
Seat 4: Slikker T (1,455)
Seat 5: japspy (1,710)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,645)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (1,545)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,580)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,650)
auroraaces66 posts the small blind of 20
Effexor posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Tc Js]
butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
japspy raises to 120
izzyrose0125 calls 120
schmidty22 folds
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor calls 80

Again we have NO need to get involved here. I don't think we're getting the implied odds we need to call here. Save your chips.

*** FLOP *** [8h 8c 7c]
Effexor checks
japspy bets 160
izzyrose0125 folds
Effexor folds
Uncalled bet of 160 returned to japspy
japspy mucks
japspy wins the pot (380)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 380 | Rake 0
Board: [8h 8c 7c]
Seat 2: Effexor (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: butterface99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: japspy collected (380), mucked
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: schmidty22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joser858 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (small blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339708946: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:15:29 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,380)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,355)
Seat 4: Slikker T (1,455)
Seat 5: japspy (1,970)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,345)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (1,545)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,820)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,630)
butterface99 posts the small blind of 20
Slikker T posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [7d 9d]
japspy folds
izzyrose0125 folds
schmidty22 calls 40
joser858 calls 40
auroraaces66 calls 40
Effexor calls 40

Again, too loose. I don't mind this as much as the other limps though. We have position this time, and we're getting great pot odds.

butterface99 calls 20
Slikker T checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 7c 4h]
butterface99 checks
Slikker T checks
schmidty22 checks
joser858 checks
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor bets 240

A bit big, but a good bet. We should be trying to keep the pot small in case we get called here
butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
schmidty22 folds
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Uncalled bet of 240 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (240)
The blinds are now 25/50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 240 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 7c 4h]
Seat 2: Effexor (button) collected (240), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Slikker T (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: schmidty22 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: joser858 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 folded on the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #2339726021: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:17:37 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,580)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,315)
Seat 4: Slikker T (1,665)
Seat 5: japspy (1,920)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,345)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (1,505)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,780)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,390)
japspy posts the small blind of 25
izzyrose0125 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Jc Qs]
schmidty22 folds
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor raises to 150

This is where table image comes in. You've been pretty active and won't get much respect from the observant players. Good steal attempt, though, and good job tossing it after the repop.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T raises to 425
japspy folds
izzyrose0125 folds
Effexor folds
Uncalled bet of 275 returned to Slikker T
Slikker T mucks
Slikker T wins the pot (375)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 375 | Rake 0
Seat 2: Effexor folded before the Flop
Seat 3: butterface99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T (button) collected (375), mucked
Seat 5: japspy (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: schmidty22 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joser858 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 didn't bet (folded)


Full Tilt Poker Game #2339755860: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:21:18 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,430)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,340)
Seat 4: Slikker T (1,840)
Seat 5: japspy (1,845)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,445)
Seat 7: schmidty22 (1,505)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,930)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,165)
butterface99 posts the small blind of 25
Slikker T posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Qh Ac]
japspy folds
izzyrose0125 calls 50
joser858 is feeling happy
joser858 is feeling angry
joser858 is feeling confused
schmidty22 raises to 200

Not sure about reads on this guy, but I think we should be push/folding here.

joser858 calls 200
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor calls 200

Calling for 1/7th of your stack is never good. I say push/fold. We miss the flop ~2/3 of the time and if we're playing this hand, we should try getting full value from it and push to make sure we see all 5 cards.

butterface99 calls 175
Slikker T folds
izzyrose0125 calls 150
*** FLOP *** [7h Ah 3c]
butterface99 checks
izzyrose0125 checks
schmidty22 checks
joser858 checks
Effexor bets 1,230, and is all in

Pot's at ~1000, and any bet we make is going to commit us. We're playing AQ to hit an ace or queen, so we have to get our money in here. Solid push.

butterface99 folds
izzyrose0125 folds
schmidty22 folds
joser858 folds
Uncalled bet of 1,230 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (1,050)
The blinds are now 30/60
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,050 | Rake 0
Board: [7h Ah 3c]
Seat 2: Effexor (button) collected (1,050), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Slikker T (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: schmidty22 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: joser858 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 didn't bet (folded)
Full Tilt Poker Game #2339778903: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:24:10 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (2,280)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,140)
Seat 4: Slikker T (3,215)
Seat 5: japspy (1,725)
Seat 6: izzyrose0125 (1,245)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,730)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,165)
japspy posts the small blind of 30
izzyrose0125 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [2s 2c]
joser858 has 15 seconds left to act
joser858 is sitting out
joser858 has timed out
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor calls 60

Raise/fold here. I'm leaning strongly towards folding. Save 22 for a multiway limped pot, or a steal later on when the blinds are high.

butterface99 folds
joser858 has returned
Slikker T calls 60
japspy calls 30
izzyrose0125 checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 4h 7h]
japspy checks
izzyrose0125 bets 60
Effexor calls 60

Why call? Are we calling because we think our hand is good? We definitely can't call expecting to hit a 2 on the turn; we don't hit it often enough to make up for the terrible odds we're getting. Just fold.

Slikker T calls 60
japspy calls 60
*** TURN *** [Qc 4h 7h] 3♠
japspy checks
izzyrose0125 bets 60
Effexor folds


Full Tilt Poker Game #2339836654: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:31:19 ET - 2007/05/02
joser858: ty
Seat 2: Effexor (2,060)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,435)
Seat 4: Slikker T (3,295)
Seat 5: japspy (915)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,860)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (935)
joser858 posts the small blind of 40
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [8s 8c]
Effexor raises to 160

https://www.cardschat.com/f49/stop-minraising-71694/?highlight=stop+minraising ;)
Definitely a good enough hand to raise, but a minraise accomplishes very little. Pop it up to ~240 and take it from there.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
japspy folds
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
218-686-1732 (Observer): poser
Uncalled bet of 80 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
218-686-1732 (Observer): 858
Effexor wins the pot (200)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 200 | Rake 0
Seat 2: Effexor collected (200), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: japspy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joser858 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339888868: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:37:48 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,960)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,185)
Seat 4: Slikker T (3,190)
Seat 5: japspy (2,230)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,250)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (685)
Effexor posts the small blind of 50
butterface99 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ks 4d]
Slikker T folds
japspy folds
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor calls 50

The table's tightening up at this point, and we can start making some steals. K4 is not an ideal hand, but it's easy to get away from if we're reraised. Raise/fold here.

butterface99 checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 6s 9h]
Effexor checks
butterface99 bets 100
Effexor folds
Uncalled bet of 100 returned to butterface99
butterface99 mucks
butterface99 wins the pot (200)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 200 | Rake 0
Board: [8c 6s 9h]
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: butterface99 (big blind) collected (200), mucked
Seat 4: Slikker T didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joser858 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (button) didn't bet (folded)
 
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Full Tilt Poker Game #2339899051: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:39:03 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (1,860)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,685)
Seat 4: Slikker T (3,090)
Seat 5: japspy (1,930)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,250)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (685)
Slikker T posts the small blind of 50
japspy posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ac Js]
joser858 calls 100
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor calls 100

Definitely raise here. ~400 sounds about right. Limping at this stage in the game is not what you want to be doing. Our focus should be stealing blinds and pots. Raise raise raise away! utg's limp is pretty weak too; even more reason to raise.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T calls 50
japspy checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 8h Qc]
Slikker T checks
japspy checks
joser858 checks
Effexor checks
*** TURN *** [5c 8h Qc] [Tc]
Slikker T checks
japspy bets 100
joser858 calls 100
Effexor calls 100

Double gut + nut flush draw is an easy easy call.

Slikker T folds
*** RIVER *** [5c 8h Qc Tc] 2♣
japspy checks
joser858 bets 100
Effexor raises to 700

Not too many hands are going to pay you off here. Everyone's betting very passively (minbetting to the river :p), and probably don't have much. Raise a smaller amount and see if we can suck in a smaller club or even just a pair.

japspy folds
joser858 folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (900)
The blinds are now 60/120
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 900 | Rake 0
Board: [5c 8h Qc Tc 2c]
Seat 2: Effexor collected (900), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: japspy (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 8: joser858 folded on the River
Seat 9: auroraaces66 didn't bet (folded)


Full Tilt Poker Game #2339912390: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:40:44 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (2,460)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,685)
Seat 4: Slikker T (2,990)
Seat 5: japspy (1,670)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,010)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (685)
joser858 posts the small blind of 60
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [9c 8c]
Effexor calls 120

To be blunt, this is terrible for this stage in the game. We're not getting anywhere near the implied odds necessary to call. Again we need to save our chips for blind stealing etc so we have the most fold equity possible. I rarely, if ever, limp at this stage in the game.

butterface99 calls 120
Slikker T calls 120
japspy calls 120
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad 3d 3s]
auroraaces66 bets 565, and is all in
Effexor folds
butterface99 folds
Slikker T folds
japspy folds
Uncalled bet of 565 returned to auroraaces66
auroraaces66 mucks
auroraaces66 wins the pot (660)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 660 | Rake 0
Board: [Ad 3d 3s]
Seat 2: Effexor folded on the Flop
Seat 3: butterface99 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Slikker T folded on the Flop
Seat 5: japspy (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: joser858 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) collected (660), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #2339920752: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:41:45 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (2,400)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,565)
Seat 4: Slikker T (2,870)
Seat 5: japspy (1,550)
Seat 8: joser858 (1,950)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,165)
Effexor posts the small blind of 60
butterface99 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [4s 4c]
Slikker T raises to 340
japspy folds
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor raises to 2,400, and is all in

Don't like the push tbh. Slikker is pretty loose if I remember correctly, and will call with most pairs here, as well as most big aces. Save your chips for first-in opportunities where we're much more likely to take a pot down.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T has 15 seconds left to act
Slikker T folds
joser858 is feeling confused
Uncalled bet of 2,060 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (800)
joser858 is feeling angry
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) collected (800), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Slikker T folded before the Flop
Seat 5: japspy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joser858 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (button) didn't bet (folded)

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339929679: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:42:53 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (2,860)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,385)
Seat 4: Slikker T (2,410)
Seat 5: japspy (1,550)
Seat 8: joser858 (1,950)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,345)
Slikker T posts the small blind of 60
japspy posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Td Th]
joser858 folds
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor raises to 360

Standard. Good raise.

butterface99 folds
Slikker T calls 300
japspy calls 240
*** FLOP *** [5c Jh 8c]
Slikker T bets 600

Very interesting here. He's pretty loose, and pretty aggressive IIRC, and this could mean a lot of things here. vs a tighter player I would have to fold this as this just screams jack or set here, but with the draws out there I might fight back (ie push) vs Slikker.

japspy folds
Effexor raises to 2,500, and is all in

Don't mind it. A little dangerous though - we're wayyy behind vs Jx or a set/2 pair.

Slikker T calls 1,450, and is all in
Effexor shows [Td Th]
Slikker T shows [Ts 9d]
Uncalled bet of 450 returned to Effexor
*** TURN *** [5c Jh 8c] K♥
*** RIVER *** [5c Jh 8c Kh] 5♠
Effexor shows two pair, Tens and Fives
Slikker T shows a pair of Fives
Effexor wins the pot (5,180) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Slikker T is sitting out
Slikker T stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,180 | Rake 0
Board: [5c Jh 8c Kh 5s]
Seat 2: Effexor showed [Td Th] and won (5,180) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 3: butterface99 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Slikker T (small blind) showed [Ts 9d] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: japspy (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: joser858 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 didn't bet (folded)


Full Tilt Poker Game #2339941304: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:44:19 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (5,630)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,385)
Seat 5: japspy (950)
Seat 8: joser858 (2,190)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (1,345)
joser858 posts the small blind of 60
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Jh Qc]
Effexor raises to 240

Again, stop the minraising! :)

Raise 3BBs - more fold equity, better value, and we get a lot more info about villain's hand.

butterface99 folds
japspy folds
joser858 calls 180
auroraaces66 folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Js 5d]
joser858 checks
Effexor bets 360
joser858 calls 360
*** TURN *** [9s Js 5d] 7♦
joser858 checks
Effexor bets 480
joser858 raises to 1,590, and is all in
Effexor calls 1,110

His action suggests a pretty big hand, but we're getting 3:1, I think we have to call.

joser858 shows [6s 6h]
Effexor shows [Jh Qc]
*** RIVER *** [9s Js 5d 7d] Q♦
joser858 shows a pair of Sixes
Effexor shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Effexor wins the pot (4,500) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
joser858 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,500 | Rake 0
Board: [9s Js 5d 7d Qd]
Seat 2: Effexor showed [Jh Qc] and won (4,500) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: butterface99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: japspy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: joser858 (small blind) showed [6s 6h] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339959568: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:46:37 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (7,760)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,185)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (2,555)
auroraaces66 posts the small blind of 80
Effexor posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Qd 3s]
butterface99 calls 160
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor checks
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7h Qc]
Effexor bets 320

We can (and probably should) slowplay here. Only one other player in the pot, and if he's in any way aggressive, he'll probably take a stab at this pot if you check into him.

butterface99 folds
Uncalled bet of 320 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Board: [Qh 7h Qc]
Seat 2: Effexor (big blind) collected (400), mucked
Seat 3: butterface99 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (small blind) folded before the Flop


Full Tilt Poker Game #2339962870: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:47:02 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,000)
Seat 3: butterface99 (3,025)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (2,475)
Effexor posts the small blind of 80
butterface99 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [5d Kd]
auroraaces66 calls 160
Effexor calls 80

Again I don't like limping at this stage, but with our stack and the odds we're getting, I think this is fine.

butterface99 checks
*** FLOP *** [8c Ts 6s]
Effexor checks
butterface99 checks
auroraaces66 checks
*** TURN *** [8c Ts 6s] A♥
Effexor checks
butterface99 bets 300
auroraaces66 raises to 600
Effexor folds

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339971500: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:48:07 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (7,840)
Seat 3: butterface99 (2,265)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (3,395)
butterface99 posts the small blind of 80
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ah 3s]
Effexor folds

3-handed with the monster chiplead, we have to raise this. Put the pressure on 'em. Put them on their heels.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339978574: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:49:01 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (7,920)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,645)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (3,935)
Effexor posts the small blind of 80
butterface99 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ks 4s]
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor raises to 320

Like the raise, hate the amount. If anything we should be raising more than the standard 3BBs here. We've got a very marginal hand, and we'll be OOP the rest of the hand.

butterface99 folds
Full Tilt Poker Game #2339981147: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:49:20 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,080)
Seat 3: butterface99 (1,485)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (3,935)
butterface99 posts the small blind of 80
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Kc Qs]
Effexor raises to 480

Much better amount :)

butterface99 raises to 1,485, and is all in
auroraaces66 folds
Effexor calls 1,005

Getting 2:1 with a pretty strong hand for the table conditions, this is an easy call.
If we call and lose, we've still got a strong chip lead, if we call and win, we should be coasting to a win.

butterface99 shows [Ah Kh]
Effexor shows [Kc Qs]
*** FLOP *** [Tc Qd Kd]
*** TURN *** [Tc Qd Kd] 7♣
*** RIVER *** [Tc Qd Kd 7c] 4♦
butterface99 shows a pair of Kings
Effexor shows two pair, Kings and Queens
Effexor wins the pot (3,130) with two pair, Kings and Queens
butterface99 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,130 | Rake 0
Board: [Tc Qd Kd 7c 4d]
Seat 2: Effexor (button) showed [Kc Qs] and won (3,130) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 3: butterface99 (small blind) showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339986154: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:49:59 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (9,805)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (3,695)
Effexor posts the small blind of 80
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Jc Ks]
Effexor raises to 480
auroraaces66 calls 320
*** FLOP *** [2c 3s 9h]
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor checks

c-bet! He's rarely calling that raise with a hand that has a 2,3 or 9 in it. Bet it, and fold to a reraise. Slow down if called.

*** TURN *** [2c 3s 9h] 6♦
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 3s 9h 6d] 6♣
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Effexor shows [Jc Ks] (a pair of Sixes)
auroraaces66 shows [Kd 3d] (two pair, Sixes and Threes)
auroraaces66 wins the pot (960) with two pair, Sixes and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 960 | Rake 0
Board: [2c 3s 9h 6d 6c]
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) showed [Jc Ks] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) showed [Kd 3d] and won (960) with two pair, Sixes and Threes

Full Tilt Poker Game #2339997904: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:51:29 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (9,325)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,175)
auroraaces66 posts the small blind of 80
Effexor posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Jd Ad]
auroraaces66 calls 80
Effexor raises to 640

Good. We'll be OOP the rest of the hand, and need to raise a little more to make up for that disadvantage and scare away the garbage hands.

auroraaces66 folds
Uncalled bet of 480 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (320)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 320 | Rake 0
Seat 2: Effexor (big blind) collected (320), mucked
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (small blind) folded before the Flop


Full Tilt Poker Game #2340005047: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:52:23 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,845)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,655)
auroraaces66 posts the small blind of 100
Effexor posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Td Js]
auroraaces66 calls 100
Effexor checks

We can raise this. ~700 chips is fine.

*** FLOP *** [5h 2h 4s]
Effexor checks
auroraaces66 bets 200
Effexor folds

Note the positional advantage he has. He could be betting anything here.

Uncalled bet of 200 returned to auroraaces66
auroraaces66 shows [5c 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)
auroraaces66 wins the pot (400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Board: [5h 2h 4s]
Seat 2: Effexor (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (small blind) collected (400)

Full Tilt Poker Game #2340012862: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:53:23 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,545)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,955)
Effexor posts the small blind of 100
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Jh Qs]
Effexor raises to 400

Again with the minraise! Arg!

auroraaces66 folds
Uncalled bet of 200 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) collected (400), mucked
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #2340015712: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:53:45 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,845)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,655)
Effexor posts the small blind of 100
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Kh 6h]
Effexor calls 100

We can definitely raise this. Nothing wrong with calling either.

auroraaces66 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9c 4s]
auroraaces66 bets 200
Effexor folds
Uncalled bet of 200 returned to auroraaces66
auroraaces66 shows [Tc Jc] (Ace Jack high)
auroraaces66 wins the pot (400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Board: [Ac 9c 4s]
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) collected (400)

Full Tilt Poker Game #2340039185: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:56:43 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,445)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (5,055)
Effexor posts the small blind of 100
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ac 7c]
Effexor raises to 400

Again, raise more.

auroraaces66 calls 200
*** FLOP *** [3c 2c 2h]
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor bets 600

Strong c-bet. eese goot.

auroraaces66 folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (800)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Board: [3c 2c 2h]
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) collected (800), mucked
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) folded on the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #2340044485: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:57:23 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,945)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,555)
Effexor posts the small blind of 100
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [As Kd]
Effexor calls 100

Raise, please. Against a maniac who's raising every hand, a limp to trap him would be fine but this is a very passive player we're up against here. Raise away.

auroraaces66 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9c 8h]
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor checks
*** TURN *** [Ts 9c 8h] 5♠
auroraaces66 checks
Effexor checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9c 8h 5s] 7♦
auroraaces66 bets 200
Effexor folds
Uncalled bet of 200 returned to auroraaces66
auroraaces66 mucks
auroraaces66 wins the pot (400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Board: [Ts 9c 8h 5s 7d]
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) collected (400), mucked


Full Tilt Poker Game #2340049030: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:57:58 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,745)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,755)
auroraaces66 posts the small blind of 100
Effexor posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Ah Tc]
auroraaces66 calls 100
Effexor checks

Definitely raise here. Villain is playing very passively, and my raising range here is huge.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2340053063: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:58:29 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,945)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,555)
Effexor posts the small blind of 120
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [2s 5d]Effexor folds

Against a player this passive, we should be (at least) limping with any two. We're letting this guy off way too easily.


Full Tilt Poker Game #2340058378: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:59:11 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (8,945)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (4,555)
auroraaces66 posts the small blind of 120
Effexor posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [5s Qs]
auroraaces66 calls 120
Effexor checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Ts Qd]
Effexor checks
auroraaces66 bets 240
Effexor raises to 480

Again with the trapping...villain is a player who doesn't bet often enough for it to be worthwhile. Lead and hope he's hit the flop hard enough to get some chips in. We should be prepared to get our whole stack in on the flop here if possible.

Also, raise more.

auroraaces66 calls 240
*** TURN *** [Js Ts Qd] 4♠
Effexor checks

Bet this turn; he could be drawing right now (Kx or even 9x) and we won't make chips off of him on the river if he misses. Not only that but we can still get outdrawn by a bigger flush.

auroraaces66 checks
*** RIVER *** [Js Ts Qd 4s] J♣
Effexor bets 1,200

That board is looking really scary for someone with Qx or a ten. Bet a little less to try to draw those hands in.

auroraaces66 folds
Uncalled bet of 1,200 returned to Effexor
Effexor mucks
Effexor wins the pot (1,440)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,440 | Rake 0
Board: [Js Ts Qd 4s Jc]
Seat 2: Effexor (big blind) collected (1,440), mucked
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (small blind) folded on the River

Full Tilt Poker Game #2340064472: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (17665978), Table 1 - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:59:58 ET - 2007/05/02
Seat 2: Effexor (9,665)
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (3,835)
Effexor posts the small blind of 120
auroraaces66 posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Jh Ad]
Effexor raises to 1,200

Raise a standard amount here. We can draw in a lot of weaker hands.

auroraaces66 calls 960
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ah 5h]
auroraaces66 bets 2,635, and is all in
Effexor calls 2,635

Easy call obv.

auroraaces66 shows [Kc Ts]
Effexor shows [Jh Ad]
*** TURN *** [Kd Ah 5h] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [Kd Ah 5h Td] Q♦
auroraaces66 shows two pair, Kings and Tens
Effexor shows a straight, Ace high
Effexor wins the pot (7,670) with a straight, Ace high
auroraaces66 stands up
Effexor stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,670 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd Ah 5h Td Qd]
Seat 2: Effexor (small blind) showed [Jh Ad] and won (7,670) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 9: auroraaces66 (big blind) showed [Kc Ts] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens...well that ended abruptly :p

A few things I think need improvement: minraising, limping in the later stages, and not taking advantage of a very passive player HU. We could have probably done him in before that AJ hand had we been more aggressive.
 
NineLions

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Congrats on the win, Effexor.


And thanks again for doing these, Chuck. I was going to post comments about slowplaying on the AJ hand until I looked closer and saw the flush draw.
 
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