AK vs nit-raise; $16 turbo STT

[ChuckTs]

Villain is playing on a couple of the other 4 tables I'm on, and has been just as nitty. He/she's only played a hand or two at this point, and hasn't raised PF. I've been playing tight.

Our move is?

pokerstars Game #11420118416: Tournament #57947099, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/08/10 - 21:31:06 (ET)
Table '57947099 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ørstavik (1270 in chips)
Seat 2: stewysleeps1 (1670 in chips)
Seat 3: d-jarl (1395 in chips)
Seat 4: bn2b (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: JMRING (1535 in chips)
Seat 6: Timphan (1405 in chips)
Seat 7: ChuckTs (1400 in chips)
Seat 8: rockygerl41 (1515 in chips)
Seat 9: PianoMan11 (1860 in chips)
stewysleeps1: posts small blind 25
d-jarl: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad Kh]
bn2b: folds
JMRING: folds
Timphan: raises 200 to 250
ChuckTs: ...

 

[stormswa]

fold>raise>call


only problem with coming over the top here is we are pretty much commiting ourselves if he/she shoves. We have like 1400 in stack if we come over for like 600 its going to be almost impossible for us to fold. we are either racing or we are way behind here, im more inclined to fold here against this certain player.


ugh chuck this one is harder then I thought, against a nit we can get him to lay down a lot of hand like TT-QQ here. Im like 50/50 on shove/fold now.

 

[blankoblanco]

Shoooove. The 5 BB raise is really really rarely AA or KK. If it is, well I say gg to him and load up the next one. It's a turbo! And even tighty mctight himself is usually raising AJ and AQ here. A nit is also the best candidate to force a fold of a medium pair here. Just calling is obviously kind of yucky because we usually miss and when we hit an A we rarely get value except for the times we had his weaker A beat in the first place. And I'm simply never (okay, <0.1%) folding AK in a turbo after one raise in a non-bubble situation

 

[stormswa]

Shoooove. The 5 BB raise is really really rarely AA or KK. If it is, well I say gg to him and load up the next one. It's a turbo! And even tighty mctight himself is usually raising AJ and AQ here. A nit is also the best candidate to force a fold of a medium pair here. Just calling is obviously kind of yucky because we usually miss and when we hit an A we rarely get value except for the times we had his weaker A beat in the first place. And I'm simply never (okay, <0.1%) folding AK in a turbo after one raise in a non-bubble situation

I didnt take into fact it was a turbo...

with that in mind yea I agree shoving is best play.

 

[joeeagles]

It's the usual problem: stacks are ugly to reraise, particularly with a 5BB raise.

You say he's tight but it doesn't mean this can't be a hand like AQ or AJ, because its still early in the tourney to make a good evaluation on how tight he really is. The 5BB raise though makes you think its more in the 88-JJ range.

I like to be aggressive PF with AK and although there is a good chance you're behind I'd usually reraise here because you can get many of those hands that are ahead to fold, but with stacks being what they are shoving is the only option. I think in this case its the best solution being that villain is tight, he'll probably fold 88-99-TT and if he doesn't you're either WA vs AQ or AJ, or flipping which is fine this early in the sitngo.

A smooth call is ok I think also, even if you're not getting the right odds if you're behind any c-bet made by villain would make it up if you hit the flop.

 

[ChuckTs]

The fact that this was a tight-ish table also gives me the impression he's got a medium pair instead of JJ+. I think I'm with you on the shove, for reasons already mentioned.

POKERSTARS GAME #11420118416: TOURNAMENT #57947099, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2007/08/10 - 21:31:06 (ET)
Table '57947099 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ørstavik (1270 in chips)
Seat 2: stewysleeps1 (1670 in chips)
Seat 3: d-jarl (1395 in chips)
Seat 4: bn2b (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: JMRING (1535 in chips)
Seat 6: Timphan (1405 in chips)
Seat 7: ChuckTs (1400 in chips)
Seat 8: rockygerl41 (1515 in chips)
Seat 9: PianoMan11 (1860 in chips)
stewysleeps1: posts small blind 25
d-jarl: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad Kh]
bn2b: folds
JMRING: folds
Timphan: raises 200 to 250
ChuckTs has timed out
ChuckTs: folds
ChuckTs is sitting out
rockygerl41: folds
PianoMan11: folds
ChuckTs has returned
ørstavik: folds
stewysleeps1: folds
d-jarl: folds
Timphan collected 125 from pot
Timphan: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 125 | Rake 0
Seat 1: ørstavik (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: stewysleeps1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: d-jarl (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: bn2b folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JMRING folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Timphan collected (125)
Seat 7: ChuckTs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: rockygerl41 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PianoMan11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


oops...

 

[skoldpadda]

I think shoving is probably best, too, all things considered. Will you get a nit to fold more hands potentially if your image (you said tight) is good and you do something scarier like raise to 750? Possible. I think either play has merit since you're in position. If OOP, the 750 raise is good as a stop and go, too, I think.