AJ vs over the top all in 5-handed; $15 turbo STT

[ChuckTs]

Villain is very tight, as am I.

I've raised the blinds recently a couple times and folded to a push (A2, QJ or something).

pokerstars Game #8738328368: Tournament #44473500, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/03/04 - 17:51:52 (ET)
Table '44473500 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: draksbg (2505 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (4330 in chips)
Seat 3: Aw Right 66 (2570 in chips)
Seat 5: sittingbull8 (2185 in chips)
Seat 7: jo3olous (1910 in chips)
draksbg: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
Aw Right 66: posts the ante 25
sittingbull8: posts the ante 25
jo3olous: posts the ante 25
jo3olous: posts small blind 100
draksbg: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Jd]
ChuckTs: raises 400 to 600
Aw Right 66: folds
sittingbull8: folds
jo3olous: folds
draksbg: raises 1880 to 2480 and is all-in
ChuckTs: ...


Easy fold?

 

[joosebuck]

yes. he understands you are raising from UTG, which gives more respect regardless of your current image. i would venture to say AJ is beaten.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Routine fold.

With effective 12bb stacks there's a case for open shoving preflop here, especially if the table has been playing back at standard open raises. Certainly if it was 4-handed I'd be open shoving with the same effective stacks - the fact that 5 are left puts me off a little, but it's still worth considering.

 

[mrsnake3695]

At best a coin flip, but probably dominated. Very doubtful you are ahead of anything.

 

[ChuckTs]

Typed that fast...forgot PT stats (which shouldn't matter much...after looking back at this it looks like a very easy fold to me...)

villain is 19/17/13 over about 150 hands including previous sngs
I'm 13/11/6.5


results: I take my time, and call. He shows TT and I luck out on the flop with a jack.

In my defense, I've been trying two-tabling lately and being a very poor multitasker, it's quite the task for me. Pretty terrible call in retrospect...

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.388% 54.06% 06.33% 80528853 9431973.00 { 77+, ATs+, ATo+ }
Hand 1: 39.612% 33.28% 06.33% 49577649 9431973.00 { AsJh }

And that's pinning him on pretty a pretty loose pushing range...

 

[joosebuck]

no. i play back with almost anything at these stages. i dont think it's a 'terrible' call. although you will rarely be dominating someone. mostly will be races against hands like KQ, etc. or other live cards. sometimes a worse ace, sometimes a better one. mostly racing i think.

 

[drtofu66]

I fold here. Plenty of time to wait for a better spot against someone more desperate and shorter-- and hopefully be ITM by then. And it's never wrong to trust your read.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

no. i play back with almost anything at these stages. i dont think it's a 'terrible' call. although you will rarely be dominating someone. mostly will be races against hands like KQ, etc. or other live cards. sometimes a worse ace, sometimes a better one. mostly racing i think.

I think it is a pretty terrible call. From the mid-stages of a SNG you simply don't want to be calling all-ins without very good reason to do so. Your main advantage comes from the first-in vig you get from being the initial raiser/shover.

Villain appears to be a reasonable player from the numbers - he's seen us with the big stack raise UTG, he's giving us decent pot odds with this big stack to call his shove - do you really think he's playing back with absolutely anything that we're ahead of? I don't think a decent player shoves KQ here (and even if he does we're only 60/40 and that's only one hand right at the bottom end of his range).

If you're going to call shoves in late SNG stages, you have to either (a) have a huge hand that's far, far ahead of your opponent's range, or (b) be getting irresistible pot odds. We have neither here - easy fold.

 

[dj11]

If you fold there, u still have big stack, and survive.

Glad u won it. Hope u didn't bust out 4 hands later.

 

[joosebuck]

what i mean to say is that he could be making a lot worse calls. i don't think it would be a good call by any means, but it is not farfetched tha villian is making a play back at us with something that's 60/40.

i still fold here though

 

[Irexes]

I'm folding here (I'm probably folding preflop to start with if I'm honest because I don't want a call and then to hit the flop with Axx or Jxx).

Make the blinds a bit bigger or your stack a bit smaller and it's playable with caution

Should note I have no grasp of Turbo play so take this with a pinch of salt.