$6 9 handed sng, open shove on flop.

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pokerstars Game #20606777757: Tournament #109732739, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/09/22 13:07:10 ET
Table '109732739 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: -komike- (1870 in chips)
Seat 2: TexasBomber9 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: cooldad43 (1420 in chips)
Seat 5: killer12376 (3030 in chips)
Seat 6: mailtje (1640 in chips)
Seat 7: playmogil (1350 in chips)
Seat 8: xPokermage (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: Entiteit (1220 in chips)
xPokermage: posts small blind 15
Entiteit: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Entiteit [Kh Jc]
-komike-: folds
TexasBomber9: folds
cooldad43: folds
killer12376: calls 30
mailtje: folds
playmogil: calls 30
xPokermage: folds
Entiteit: raises 120 to 150
killer12376: folds
playmogil: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [Ts 7c Qs]
Entiteit: checks
playmogil: bets 1200 and is all-in

What do we do, what does he have ?
No reads I can help you with.

To my honest opinion it seems like a desperation shove for someone trying to get the pot. But the question is do we have odds and outs to call ?
 
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the blinds are 15/30 where is the desperation coming from? Call, call is often a set, he could have AQ so to me this is a fold. No reason to make such a marginal/hero call so early. Make a note of the play and see if does it again. Just my thoughts, FWIW
 
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Maybe the desperation of wanting to win a semi decent pot ?
 
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You have 8 clean outs (maybe 11) if he has just a pair lower than K's. 1200 to call for 1545 or about 1.29:1. Call if you feel want to, but the price isn't right and if you have no realiable read then you this is a fold. Just my thoughts.
 
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easy fold at this point

But next time cbet ~250 and probably call a shove according to my very quickly done in a couple of seconds maths
 
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Agreed, guess I felt like gambling or had a hunch.
Cause I called. I was thinking that I never seen this kind of play and saw no reason for a shove like that other to protect a weak hand. So I called, he flipped A7 os for the bottom pair and I completed my straight on the river.

All in all very risky play and I'd do better to lay it down in the future I think.
 
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dont know if calling is a really good option here. U may have outs, but an overbet like that i mena hes either tilting or making an sick overbet for flopping a set / nuts. No way im calling here
 
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