$.50 NLHE MTT: Correct Call?

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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 165.9 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 6)
BB: 202.2 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
UTG: 148.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG+1: 151 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 150 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP+1): 130.25 BB
MP+2: 143.1 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
CO: 150.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BTN: 152.5 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:diamond: 8:diamond:

fold, fold, MP raises to 5.5 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 5 BB, fold

Flop: (17.5 BB, 3 players) 5:club: 3:heart: A:diamond:
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (17.5 BB, 3 players) 7:diamond:
SB checks, MP bets 13.15 BB, Hero calls 13.15 BB, fold

River: (43.8 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
MP bets 21.9 BB, Hero calls 21.9 BB

MP shows J:club: A:heart: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 59%, Flop 92%, Turn 73%)
Hero mucks 9:diamond: 8:diamond: (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 41%, Flop 8%, Turn 27%)
MP wins 87.6 BB
 
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Villains betting range post flop

Looking for others input please

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10/20 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 165.9 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 202.2 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
UTG: 148.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG+1: 151 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 150 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP+1): 130.25 BB
MP+2: 143.1 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
CO: 150.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BTN: 152.5 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 8

fold, fold, MP raises to 5.5 BB, Hero calls 5.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 5 BB, fold

Flop: (17.5 BB, 3 players) 5 3 A
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (17.5 BB, 3 players) 7
SB checks, MP bets 13.15 BB, Hero calls 13.15 BB, fold

River: (43.8 BB, 2 players) 9
MP bets 21.9 BB, Hero calls 21.9 BB

MP shows J A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 59%, Flop 92%, Turn 73%)
Hero mucks 9 8 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 41%, Flop 8%, Turn 27%)
MP wins 87.6 BB

Thank U 4 Posting.

What other value hands could Villain bet turn with? KK QQ JJ 1010 55 33 A5 A3 A10 AQ AK AA

What bluffs? KQdd KJdd QJdd etc

Look at your pot odds on the turn and your equity. Should we be calling here? How much can we make if the river flush comes. Think about the negative implied odds.

The river is an easy fold -that is a value bet when paired with the turn bet sizing in this type of game.

Could we bluff? Would villain fold? Not likely as villain big bet turn after checking flop as a trap. Unless the big bet was fear, which it was not because the villain did not big bet or block bet the river.

Hope this helps

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The opponent was a little LAG and showing up with all sorts of hands all over the place early on. I had him tagged this way and with his check on the flop I deduced he probably did not have an ace as I saw him lead a flop into 3 people with A6o earlier.

This being said, I really am not sure what I beat on the river besides a 5, a 7 or a pure bluff. Figured my opponent could be bluffing there, so I called him down.

Going back over the hand, with no solid reads on my opponent this would be a clear fold. Maybe sometimes its better to air on the side of caution rather than whatever current tendencies I have noted on the player?
 
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The opponent was a little LAG and showing up with all sorts of hands all over the place early on. I had him tagged this way and with his check on the flop I deduced he probably did not have an ace as I saw him lead a flop into 3 people with A6o earlier.

This being said, I really am not sure what I beat on the river besides a 5, a 7 or a pure bluff. Figured my opponent could be bluffing there, so I called him down.

Going back over the hand, with no solid reads on my opponent this would be a clear fold. Maybe sometimes its better to air on the side of caution rather than whatever current tendencies I have noted on the player?


was his Standard raise Always 5.5x?
because those People who Play a lot, usally go for those sizes when they have a big Hand.
so this is 99+ AJ+ most of the time. I think AJ is the Bottom of his 5.5x range, so you should fold pre with your suited connector.


check flop and call turn is fine, but you should fold the river.
a lot of People check an A high flop with KK QQ JJ and bet turn and river if no other overcard hits the board.
 
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I think so. Folding was in my best interest. I know pt4 stats show nothing for him but I had notes on him from previous sessions. As for the 5x sizings - yes, he was opening large alot of the time. I think this was mainly to deter the horrible players at these lower levels calling with any 2. Seemed to be a pattern of his to open bigger. Anyhow. Thanks for the reviews, maybe next time I will make the right decision :)
 
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Fold preflop.
O river is close. I think in best case scenario (if vilain bluffs mised draws or overplais PP)its same EV to call or fold. So we folding to lower variance.
 
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Preflop
I would only enter the pot with 98s from this position by 3-betting, and I would only do that against players, that I know fold to much to 3-bets. I would also not do it against an oversized open, because as someone say, that is typically weighted towards a premium hand. So in this spot I would just fold.

The problem with cold calling marginal hands is, that you invite someone behind to either squeeze or take position on you. If they squeeze, you have to fold, and even if they just take position, you are still in a bad spot, where its difficult to win the hand postflop.

Flop
Totally fine with a check behind. We have nothing but some backdoor draws against two players. I am giving up, unless some miracle happen on the turn.

Turn
Totally fine with just calling. We picked up 12 outs, so we cant fold now, but we dont represent much, if we raise, and we are still 3-ways.

River
Fold. Your hand is a bluff catcher now, but what is he bluffing with? You block the missed flush draw, and you dont block his value, which is mainly AX, that checked the flop for pot control and deception. You called turn to hit a straight or flush not second pair.
 
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Even on the turn I would have thought of fold. Although, if you are sure that it will be possible to tighten the game small blind, call justified. On the turn 75% - call, 25% - fold. On the river-100% fold. We don't know anything about our opponent, and if he was bluffing, he would have done it on the flop.
 
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