$5.5 NLHE STT Rebuy: Played my hand perfectly well but bad results on the river....

[GordonStr222]

$5.5 NL HE STT Rebuy: Played my hand perfectly well but bad results on the river....

okerStars Game #34380172738: Tournament #204264323, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/10/22 20:50:20 PT [2009/10/22 23:50:20 ET]
Table '204264323 5' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: callmeicare (9176 in chips)
Seat 2: BigFin451 (74136 in chips)
Seat 3: johnyy777 (19787 in chips)
Seat 4: Bajnep (4502 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: modemore (19254 in chips)
Seat 6: WRSTPLAYAEVA (4835 in chips)
Seat 7: joeythekid79 (7992 in chips)
Seat 8: skower (10150 in chips)
Seat 9: GordonStr222 (17877 in chips)
callmeicare: posts the ante 50
BigFin451: posts the ante 50
johnyy777: posts the ante 50
Bajnep: posts the ante 50
modemore: posts the ante 50
WRSTPLAYAEVA: posts the ante 50
joeythekid79: posts the ante 50
skower: posts the ante 50
GordonStr222: posts the ante 50
joeythekid79: posts small blind 300
skower: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GordonStr222 [Qd Qs]
GordonStr222: raises 1200 to 1800
callmeicare: folds
BigFin451: raises 1800 to 3600
johnyy777: folds
Bajnep: folds
modemore: folds
WRSTPLAYAEVA: folds
joeythekid79: folds
skower: folds
joeythekid79 said, "ty"
GordonStr222: calls 1800
*** FLOP *** [Js 7d Qc]
GordonStr222: bets 1800
BigFin451: raises 3600 to 5400
joeythekid79 said, "gg"
GordonStr222: raises 3600 to 9000
BigFin451: raises 3600 to 12600
GordonStr222: raises 1627 to 14227 and is all-in
BigFin451: calls 1627
*** TURN *** [Js 7d Qc] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 7d Qc 2d] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GordonStr222: shows [Qd Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
BigFin451: shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
BigFin451 collected 37004 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 37004 | Rake 0
Board [Js 7d Qc 2d Ad]
Seat 1: callmeicare folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BigFin451 showed [Ac Ah] and won (37004) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: johnyy777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bajnep folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: modemore folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WRSTPLAYAEVA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: joeythekid79 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: skower (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: GordonStr222 showed [Qd Qs] and lost with three of a kind, QueensokerStars Game #34380172738: Tournament #204264323, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/10/22 20:50:20 PT [2009/10/22 23:50:20 ET]
Table '204264323 5' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: callmeicare (9176 in chips)
Seat 2: BigFin451 (74136 in chips)
Seat 3: johnyy777 (19787 in chips)
Seat 4: Bajnep (4502 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: modemore (19254 in chips)
Seat 6: WRSTPLAYAEVA (4835 in chips)
Seat 7: joeythekid79 (7992 in chips)
Seat 8: skower (10150 in chips)
Seat 9: GordonStr222 (17877 in chips)
callmeicare: posts the ante 50
BigFin451: posts the ante 50
johnyy777: posts the ante 50
Bajnep: posts the ante 50
modemore: posts the ante 50
WRSTPLAYAEVA: posts the ante 50
joeythekid79: posts the ante 50
skower: posts the ante 50
GordonStr222: posts the ante 50
joeythekid79: posts small blind 300
skower: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GordonStr222 [Qd Qs]
GordonStr222: raises 1200 to 1800
callmeicare: folds
BigFin451: raises 1800 to 3600
johnyy777: folds
Bajnep: folds
modemore: folds
WRSTPLAYAEVA: folds
joeythekid79: folds
skower: folds
joeythekid79 said, "ty"
GordonStr222: calls 1800
*** FLOP *** [Js 7d Qc]
GordonStr222: bets 1800
BigFin451: raises 3600 to 5400
joeythekid79 said, "gg"
GordonStr222: raises 3600 to 9000
BigFin451: raises 3600 to 12600
GordonStr222: raises 1627 to 14227 and is all-in
BigFin451: calls 1627
*** TURN *** [Js 7d Qc] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 7d Qc 2d] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GordonStr222: shows [Qd Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
BigFin451: shows [Ac Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
BigFin451 collected 37004 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 37004 | Rake 0
Board [Js 7d Qc 2d Ad]
Seat 1: callmeicare folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BigFin451 showed [Ac Ah] and won (37004) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: johnyy777 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bajnep folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: modemore folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WRSTPLAYAEVA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: joeythekid79 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: skower (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: GordonStr222 showed [Qd Qs] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

 

[FereZ]

You played it well.
Just horriby badbeat on river.
No can do.

 

[c9h13no3]

Uh... why are we just calling a min-raise OOP with QQ? Our M is 13, we really can't afford to fold any flops if we call, so just get it in pre. And what the hell is up with the flop play, its just ugly.

Don't show results, use a hand converter. And try not to say you played the hand perfect, that's just arrogant (and in this case, incorrect).

 

[GordonStr222]

First of all my M is not 13...... Tell me how I played the hand wrong mister expert... Why don't you review the hand again and better yet don't even post anything if you can't give any constructive criticism....

 

[GordonStr222]

In regards to my last post my M is 13... I apologize but why would I want to shove preflop with QQ and still out of the money in a tourney.... Facing a huge stack that will probably call in this situation if I push.... Is that just a standart all in....

 

[c9h13no3]

I apologize but why would I want to shove preflop with QQ

Because it crushes his calling range? Because you're going to call, and an A or K will flop often enough to put you in a terrible decision with a stack to pot ratio of like 1:1? And your M is 13.

600+300+450 = 1350. 17877/1350 = 13.24

 

[OzExorcist]

c9 has it - you shove this preflop because you'll get called by a bunch of hands that aren't AA or KK.

Here's some other questions for you to think about though:

- Why did you just call preflop?
- What range did you figure the villain for?
- What reads did you have on the villain?
- What were you going to do if the flop was, say, A37 or KJ5?

 

[GordonStr222]

OK thanks for your help but in some strange weird way I though he had AA because he only made a minimum raise and for a minimum raise I found it hard to fold... But I can see why I would push here... Thanks for your help... Appreciate it...

 

[c9h13no3]

OK thanks for your help but in some strange weird way I though he had AA because he only made a minimum raise and for a minimum raise I found it hard to fold

If you knew he had AA, you should fold, as you're not getting odds to set mine. However, I've seen minimum raises from all sorts of hands.

Villain never has one hand, he has a range. If his range is AA & KK only, then we should fold. If his range is weaker on average than QQ, then we should shove. There's almost never any reason to call. In this case, Raise all in > Fold > Call.

The actions you're taking just don't make any sense in this hand. Put your opponent on a range, and take actions that allow him to make a mistake.