$3.30 NLHE STT: 99 flop open ender

[DaveE]

$3.30 NLHESTT: 99 flop open ender

I hate flatting in STTs but do I flat here?

poker stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 969024
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SB: t2620 87.33 BBs
Hero (BB): t1680 56 BBs
UTG: t1355 45.17 BBs
UTG+1: t1340 44.67 BBs
MP1: t1015 33.83 BBs
MP2: t2210 73.67 BBs
CO: t2475 82.50 BBs
BTN: t805 26.83 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 9 ♠ 9 ♣
4 folds, CO raises to t90, 2 folds, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t195) 7 ♣ 8 ♠ 6 ♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t180, Hero?

 

[WiZZiM]

i think i'm happy to get it in here, i'm raising this.

 

[baudib1]

CRAI

 

[Rldetheflop]

what they siad.

And yes I think flatting here is fine. Im not much on flatting myself but this actually looks like one of the times we can.

 

[baudib1]

This is an obvious flat, 3-betting here is terrible and folding is ridiculously weak vs. CO as long as you're not going to spazz shove all undercard boards.

 

[DaveE]

Oops..forgot I posted this.

This is from a CC league game. CO is a solid TAG and doesn't get out of line with c-bets very often. I could easily be behind a set or overpair here.

I rarely flat but in this case it seems like the best play.

 

[baudib1]

A. If he's never c-betting missed overs he's not really a solid TAG.
B. If he's a solid TAG he should be able to fold JJ here occasionally to a flop CRAI.
C. If he can fold JJ here you should bluff this board a lot (see ISF theorem).

 

[cjatud2012]

flatting the flop is the best play? You can't really control the size of the pot/ get to showdown cheaply by flatting here, since we're out of position, just check-raise all-in, our equity here is too good not to.

 

[Rldetheflop]

flatting the flop is the best play? You can't really control the size of the pot/ get to showdown cheaply by flatting here, since we're out of position, just check-raise all-in, our equity here is too good not to.

hell no flatting the flop isnt ok. I meant pf which i thought op was asking but as I reread it I think he is asking about flatting the flop.

 

[cjatud2012]

lol okay that's what I figured.

 

[realtalk108]

Im def new to this, but why is flat calling the flop a bad play?? if someone can just explain that it would be greatly appreciated?

 

[baudib1]

we have zero implied odds to flat call. calling with a 1 card OESD out of position lets villain play perfectly.

 

[DaveE]

Oooops....forgot about this

From a purely results oriented POV I flatted the flop and turn, she had a set of 6's and I whiffed the next 2 streets, check/checking the river when the third club hit. Survived and went on to get first place.

Any other situation (non-league) I'm pretty sure I reraise/shove the flop. These games are supernitty and I find myself playing that way too.