$22 Deepstack tourney hand

[KMC1828]

This is very early in the $22 Deep Stack tournament at pokerstars. I had just been moved to this table about 5 hands previous to this one. Curious as to what people think of the hand so far. I'll post the rest of the hand later on after a few people give input.

edit: I most definitely should not have limped on the button like I did, but please tell me what I should have done pre-flop/post-flop anyway instead.

Stacks:
* MP3 with 5460
* CO with 5010
* BTN with 10140
* SB with 5120
* BB with 4850
* UTG with 4970
* UTG+1 with 14475
* MP1 with 5040
* MP2 with 5585

Blinds: 10/20
Site: Pokerstars
* * Dealt to BTN:K♦ J♥
* * Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
* * 6 players fold.
* * Hero calls [20]
* * SB calls [10]
* * BB: checks
* * Total folds this street: 6
* * Potsize: 60
Flop:
* * 10♥ Q♦ K♠
* * SB bets [60]
* * BB calls [60]
* * Hero raises 160 to 220
* * SB raises 380 to 600
* * 1 players fold.
* * Hero calls [380]
* * Total folds this street: 1

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[TheCody86]

Yeh, no limping OTB whenever it has been folded to you. Here's your opponent's range J9, Q10, K10, QJ, J10, J-Rag (if he's an idiot)...He isn't reraising with anything else IMO. This is deep stack, no need to play this fast so I like the flop play.

 

[shinedown.45]

yup, you screwed up preflop.
A re-raise could be warranted on this flop to see if villian has TPTK/set/2pr/str8.
If you had re-raised and villian went over the top by shoving, then you might have to let this one go.
As played, the call is not bad here, you have an OESD with TPMK and drawing to 8 possibly 10 outs(not sure though) if villian isn't holding AK/AJ/KQ, if you turn an A/J here any bet villian makes warrants a shove IMO.

 

[KMC1828]

Here's the rest of the hand.



*** TURN *** [Th Qd Ks] [Jd]
atlas_afs: bets 400
KMC1828: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [Th Qd Ks Jd] [Ah]
atlas_afs: checks
KMC1828: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
atlas_afs: shows [Td Kc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
KMC1828: shows [Kd Jh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
atlas_afs collected 1060 from pot
KMC1828 collected 1060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2120 | Rake 0
Board [Th Qd Ks Jd Ah]
Seat 1: GRANDPAANDY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: boozeorlose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KMC1828 (button) showed [Kd Jh] and won (1060) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: atlas_afs (small blind) showed [Td Kc] and won (1060) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: BigBluffDk (big blind) folded on the Flop



The only reason I simply called on the turn instead of raising was because if he indeed had an A or 9, I wanted to be cautious and not go overboard on betting this early in the tournament. On the river if he bets, I'm pretty much calling almost any bet up to pot sized. I don't think im going all in with that 2 pair with that board on the river, but I'm calling a nice sized bet.

 

[TheCody86]

I'd raise the turn to ~1200-1600 to see if he's weak or if he's value betting the ace. Personally, I would not have put him on an ace at all because he isn't limping out of position with AJ, AK, or AA and then reraising that flop with AX.

 

[shinedown.45]

yup, you screwed up preflop.
A re-raise could be warranted on this flop to see if villian has TPTK/set/2pr/str8.
If you had re-raised and villian went over the top by shoving, then you might have to let this one go.
As played, the call is not bad here, you have an OESD with TPMK and drawing to 8 possibly 10 outs(not sure though) if villian isn't holding AK/AJ/KQ, if you turn an A/J here any bet villian makes warrants a shove IMO.

Here's the rest of the hand.



*** TURN *** [Th Qd Ks] J♦
atlas_afs: bets 400
KMC1828: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [Th Qd Ks Jd] A♥
atlas_afs: checks
KMC1828: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
atlas_afs: shows [Td Kc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
KMC1828: shows [Kd Jh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
atlas_afs collected 1060 from pot
KMC1828 collected 1060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2120 | Rake 0
Board [Th Qd Ks Jd Ah]
Seat 1: GRANDPAANDY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: boozeorlose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KMC1828 (button) showed [Kd Jh] and won (1060) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: atlas_afs (small blind) showed [Td Kc] and won (1060) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: BigBluffDk (big blind) folded on the Flop



The only reason I simply called on the turn instead of raising was because if he indeed had an A or 9, I wanted to be cautious and not go overboard on betting this early in the tournament. On the river if he bets, I'm pretty much calling almost any bet up to pot sized. I don't think im going all in with that 2 pair with that board on the river, but I'm calling a nice sized bet.

Look to blue, I don't have much more to add.

 

[KMC1828]

yeah, i doubted he had the A, but i didnt rule out the 9 by any means. Quite honestly on the turn I had him on K9o. But seems I was a little off, but, either way.

I'm still in this tourney by the way if anyone wants to rail. I've got 14k w/ 150 left, which is about 3k above the avg stack.

ty guys for the input.

 

[shinedown.45]

yeah, i doubted he had the A, but i didnt rule out the 9 by any means. Quite honestly on the turn I had him on K9o. But seems I was a little off, but, either way.

I'm still in this tourney by the way if anyone wants to rail. I've got 14k w/ 150 left, which is about 3k above the avg stack.

ty guys for the input.

with his reraise on the flop I had him on 2 pr and I'm not being results oriented, his action said it all.

 

[KMC1828]

im out. and kind of pissed off at what that dude had. No way im putting him on Q7 when theres a Q47 flop (i think 4...either way it was some rag), i knew i had him outkicked on the Q, and i knew he had a Q...has me so irritated right now. that guy was a complete jackass. he open shoved on some random hands and flops when there were like a few limpers and/or the pot was not even near close to warranting a shove from ANYONE, much less him (who had been at a pretty good chipstack ever since i had been at his table). Let's not fail to mention that he also talked during hands when he wasnt involved in the hands, about the hands. He would say things like "HES GOT KK" or "ALL IN ALL IN ALL IN"

/endrant

 

[switch0723]

I raise the flop like you did but i then fold to the re raise.

Villain has led out, and then 3 bet the flop, it should be obvious that he has 2 pair or pocket tens (these are the most typical hands of an unknwon here). Although we have a straight draw, we have just about 0 implied odds since villain is unlikely to pay us off enough to warrant a call on the flop.

Thats why i fold the hand without immediate odds to chase hte straight

 

[KMC1828]

PokerStars Game #19233545531: Tournament #98771854, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/30 - 21:03:32 (ET)
Table '98771854 5' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: mxygal (8840 in chips)
Seat 2: IUSwimmer (8078 in chips)
Seat 3: KMC1828 (12830 in chips)
Seat 4: bardamu99 (15940 in chips)
Seat 5: BigBluffDk (8525 in chips)
Seat 6: killerhillby (1701 in chips)
Seat 7: Ruaway1 (18145 in chips)
Seat 8: LuckyEmma7 (1275 in chips)
Seat 9: garfield32 (14560 in chips)
garfield32: posts small blind 100
mxygal: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to KMC1828 [Kd Qc]
IUSwimmer: folds
KMC1828: calls 200
bardamu99: folds
BigBluffDk: folds
killerhillby: calls 200
Ruaway1: calls 200
LuckyEmma7: folds
garfield32: calls 100
mxygal: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6c 4d]
garfield32: checks
mxygal: checks
KMC1828: bets 700
killerhillby: folds
Ruaway1: calls 700
garfield32: folds
mxygal: folds
*** TURN *** [Qd 6c 4d] [7c]
KMC1828: bets 1400
Ruaway1: raises 1800 to 3200
KMC1828: calls 1800
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6c 4d 7c] [Qh]
KMC1828: checks
Ruaway1: bets 14045 and is all-in
KMC1828: calls 8730 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5315) returned to Ruaway1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ruaway1: shows [Qs 7s] (a full house, Queens full of Sevens)
KMC1828: shows [Kd Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
Ruaway1 collected 26260 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 26260 | Rake 0
Board [Qd 6c 4d 7c Qh]
Seat 1: mxygal (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: IUSwimmer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: KMC1828 showed [Kd Qc] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: bardamu99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BigBluffDk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: killerhillby folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Ruaway1 showed [Qs 7s] and won (26260) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens
Seat 8: LuckyEmma7 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: garfield32 (small blind) folded on the Flop

how i went out by the way

 

[TheCody86]

NEVER EVER EEEEEEEEEEEEEVER open limp into a pot. It's just bad. Playing KQo out of position isn't recommended either unless you are playing a passive table. And reraise that flop bet, shove, he isn't limping on the button with AQ.

 

[switch0723]

2nd hand, fold the turn, what hand do you beat that calls flop and raises turn????

 

[Effexor]

On the second hand, either raise that PF or fold. If the table is playing tight raise that, if not fold. KQ oop is dangerous.

As played, fold the turn to the raise. Absolutely nothing that KQ beats calls the flop bet then raises the turn.

Here's a little saying that has saved me on more than one occasion.

Never go broke with top pair in an unraised pot.

 

[HeroCall]

I think I pretty much disagree with the whole way you played the hand. Obviously raise preflop, but then why raise on the flop? definitely aren't folding a better hand to you and your probably getting called in both spots if the guy doesn't reraise. 1 by a better hand and 2 by another jack. So not only are you not getting paid off if you hit your straight but your putting more chips at risk with most likely the worst hand.

 

[HeroCall]

In the second hand.

You gotta check that turn to see what the action does or fold to that reraise instantly.

On a Q 4 6 board a 7 on the turn in a limped pot is a terrible card for you. You also definitely cannot stack off with 3 q's that deep he's obviously got the straight or a full house in this situation, because in my experience most players don't bluff all in on the river

 

[HeroCall]

I love the deepstack tourneys they have so much play, but you gotta be careful when raised your beat alot of the time.