$11 NLHE MTT: SCOOP 82-L |Progressive Bounty| A8s in BB

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MP stats after 16 hands: VPIP 44 PFR 19 Limp 11 Flop C-bet 100

* Even though his played only 16 hands I had an old note on him that he plays almost any 2 card and bluffs a lot with random card.

How would you guys play this hand?


pokerstars - 300/600 Ante 75 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: 20,470 (34.1 bb)
SB: 6,562 (10.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 49,522 (82.5 bb)
UTG: 57,356 (95.6 bb)
UTG+1: 32,049 (53.4 bb)
MP: 31,284 (52.1 bb)
MP+1: 20,420 (34 bb)
CO: 32,337 (53.9 bb)

8 players post ante of 75, SB posts 300, Hero posts BB 600

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,500) Hero has :8c4: :ac4:
2 folds, MP raises to 1,200, 4 folds, Hero calls 600

Flop: (3,300, 2 players) :8s4: :7d4: :2h4:
Hero checks, MP bets 2,250, Hero calls 2,250

Turn: (7,800, 2 players) :kd4:
Hero checks, MP bets 5,100, Hero calls 5,100

River: (18,000, 2 players) :2c4:
Hero checks, MP bets 22,659 and is all-in, Hero calls 22,659

Results: 63,318 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :8s4: :7d4: :2h4: :kd4: :2c4:
 
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Preflop
Standard call.

Flop
There is some argument for check-raising here, since your hand benefit quite a lot from protection, and most runouts are going to suck for you. But the SPR is almost 10, which is very deep to stack off with just a single pair, and obviously he can have all the overpairs. So I do think, check-calling is the best play.

Turn
Obviously the K is one of the cards, you did not want to see, but I still think, you have to call, especially if you made a note, the guy is capable of bluffing.

River
The board pair with bottom card, and he moves all-in for more than the size of the pot. This is a very polarizing sizing, and I kind of dought, if he is taking this sizing with just a K. Its also not very credible he have a 2 in his hand, because we see two of them, not many hands with a 2 raise preflop in the first place, and is he really barreling flop and turn like this with bottom pair, thats also up for debate.

So he is almost saying, that he has a full house, and when you have an 8 in your hand, there are only 8 realistic combos of those left, since we dont really think, he open hands like K2 or 82 preflop. There are also a lot of busted draws, and you dont block any of those. Its not often, I recommend hero calling an overbet on the river, but if there ever was a situation to do it, this has to be it, especially with your read on the player.
 
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I'm with fundiver on this one for the most part. The biggest thing that jumped out at me was the flop though. If I'm playing a mid-A or mid-K and my kicker is the one that makes top pair, I want this to be over sooner. Top/Top with a middle pair can go sideways really quick if an overcard comes. I agree that this is check-raise (or donk bet) territory.

I would have let it go on the turn. V having a K is likely.

I would definitely let it go on the river. The paired board got there, the aforementioned K is out there... And the shove was about 1.25 pot... makes for horrible odds when the board is starring at you with obvious hands that have you beat.
 
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I would definitely let it go on the river. The paired board got there, the aforementioned K is out there... And the shove was about 1.25 pot... makes for horrible odds when the board is starring at you with obvious hands that have you beat.

But there are also a lot of hands, that missed. AQ, AJ, AT, A9, QJ, QT, T9s, 65s. The only hands in his range, that got there, are stuff like AK, KQ, KJ, KT, and as I said, I dont think, a K always overbet the river. Of course if we call here, sometimes we will have egg all over our face, because he did in fact take this sizing with a K, or he has something ridiculously strong like top boat or maybe pocket aces. But exploitative poker is about finding the good spots, and with an old note on the guy saying, he bluff with random stuff, this looks like a good spot to me :)
 
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