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Rising Star
Bronze Level
$1 NLHE STT: Fold to all-in with top pair, should've I folded before?
Hey!
Beginner trying to learn well here and sorry for the bad title but couldn't think of a better one. This is the hand
PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 7 players
MP: 56.17 BB
CO: 97.33 BB
Hero (BTN): 65.83 BB
SB: 53 BB
BB: 50.17 BB
UTG: 93.33 BB
UTG+1: 34.17 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ 5♠
fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB, UTG+1 calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB
Flop: (15 BB, 5 players) A♠ J♦ 3♠
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8 BB, fold, BB raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 8 BB
Turn: (47 BB, 2 players) J♥
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (47 BB, 2 players) 6♥
BB bets 31.17 BB and is all-in, fold
BB wins 47 BB
So I am gonna go through my rationale at every street, keep in mind I really just started to try and play better. Please correct any of my reasoning here.
Preflop:
A couple of limpers here, I don't have super strong hand, but on the BTN I like it enough, so I raise 3BB. In retrospective maybe should have been a bit more sizeable to reduce the field and that my hand is not super strong? All but BB (don't know yet) showed a bit of weakness so I thought 3BB was enough here, but I am really not sure.
Everyone calls, this is not great for me.
Flop:
Checks all around, I am thinking either they are hiding an A to re-raise or they missed or just not betting against raiser with a middle pair. In any case I have top pair here and I have position, I don't think they hit their A given how the pre-flop played out, except I don't know much about BB. I bet around 1/2 pot with my top pair. All fold but BB! BB min raises me.
At this point I am thinking he has an A too or maybe he's trying to improve a J or maybe he thinks his J is good enough (maybe J high kicker?). Oppo had very high VPIP and generally loose hence he has a very wide range and I am not sure where to put him at the moment. I call, thinking he could very well have a J, I really strongly think he has a J here given that he checked back to me. I rule out a draw given how aggressive he's playing.
I have lots invested and still have position to understand more, might he be bluffing? Though not sure he'd call 3BB on a bluff preflop.
But I might have made a mistake here? Should I have folded here? Something tells me I should've.
In retrospective call was probably the worse move? But I didn't feel comfortable enough to re-raise here...
Turn:
J♥ ! I am now very concerned. Oppo checks back to me. I am thinking if betting or not. However, I think that given how he behaved on flop he might have an A with high kicker or worse he hit his set. I was really putting him on J at the end of the flop if on a point.
If I bet what hands really fold here except a complete bluff? But then again how I win?
I don't feel very confident with my A here, the kicker is too low and I don't think I can bluff many hands away. He must have at least a good A, no? I do have two pair, but given the 3 on board, any A with good kicker beats me and we'll not chop.
River:
6♥ ... oppo snaps all in. At this point I fold, I don't think I win over nothing except a bluff.
So my questions to you:
- Do you think I could have played differently? Probably folding to the raise?
- Is my thought process here making any sense?
- Do you think there is a chance oppo was bluffing?
Thank you! I look forward learning from your answers!
Hey!
Beginner trying to learn well here and sorry for the bad title but couldn't think of a better one. This is the hand
PokerStars - 15/30 NL - Holdem - 7 players
MP: 56.17 BB
CO: 97.33 BB
Hero (BTN): 65.83 BB
SB: 53 BB
BB: 50.17 BB
UTG: 93.33 BB
UTG+1: 34.17 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ 5♠
fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB, UTG+1 calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB
Flop: (15 BB, 5 players) A♠ J♦ 3♠
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8 BB, fold, BB raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 8 BB
Turn: (47 BB, 2 players) J♥
BB checks, Hero checks
River: (47 BB, 2 players) 6♥
BB bets 31.17 BB and is all-in, fold
BB wins 47 BB
So I am gonna go through my rationale at every street, keep in mind I really just started to try and play better. Please correct any of my reasoning here.
Preflop:
A couple of limpers here, I don't have super strong hand, but on the BTN I like it enough, so I raise 3BB. In retrospective maybe should have been a bit more sizeable to reduce the field and that my hand is not super strong? All but BB (don't know yet) showed a bit of weakness so I thought 3BB was enough here, but I am really not sure.
Everyone calls, this is not great for me.
Flop:
Checks all around, I am thinking either they are hiding an A to re-raise or they missed or just not betting against raiser with a middle pair. In any case I have top pair here and I have position, I don't think they hit their A given how the pre-flop played out, except I don't know much about BB. I bet around 1/2 pot with my top pair. All fold but BB! BB min raises me.
At this point I am thinking he has an A too or maybe he's trying to improve a J or maybe he thinks his J is good enough (maybe J high kicker?). Oppo had very high VPIP and generally loose hence he has a very wide range and I am not sure where to put him at the moment. I call, thinking he could very well have a J, I really strongly think he has a J here given that he checked back to me. I rule out a draw given how aggressive he's playing.
I have lots invested and still have position to understand more, might he be bluffing? Though not sure he'd call 3BB on a bluff preflop.
But I might have made a mistake here? Should I have folded here? Something tells me I should've.
In retrospective call was probably the worse move? But I didn't feel comfortable enough to re-raise here...
Turn:
J♥ ! I am now very concerned. Oppo checks back to me. I am thinking if betting or not. However, I think that given how he behaved on flop he might have an A with high kicker or worse he hit his set. I was really putting him on J at the end of the flop if on a point.
If I bet what hands really fold here except a complete bluff? But then again how I win?
I don't feel very confident with my A here, the kicker is too low and I don't think I can bluff many hands away. He must have at least a good A, no? I do have two pair, but given the 3 on board, any A with good kicker beats me and we'll not chop.
River:
6♥ ... oppo snaps all in. At this point I fold, I don't think I win over nothing except a bluff.
So my questions to you:
- Do you think I could have played differently? Probably folding to the raise?
- Is my thought process here making any sense?
- Do you think there is a chance oppo was bluffing?
Thank you! I look forward learning from your answers!
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