$1 NLHE Deep Stacked: Right to fold 10's after an all in and 2 calls?

[Implied Odds3]

$1 NL HE Deep Stacked: Right to fold 10's after an all in and 2 calls?

Stacks:
* BB with 3535
* UTG with 9280
* UTG+1 with 6120
* MP1 with 2915
* MP2 with 24045
* MP3 with 7372
* CO with 8780
* BTN with 1855
* SB with 6965

Blinds:
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to CO:T♠ T♥
* * Sklansky group 2
Preflop:
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP1 raises to 160
* * MP2 calls [160]
* * MP3 calls [160]
* * Hero calls [160]
* * BTN raises to 1,855, and is all in
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP1 calls [1,695]
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP3 calls [1,695]
* * 1 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 6
* * Potsize: 6005
Flop:
* * J♠ 5♥ J♦
* * MP1 bets [1,060, and is all in]
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP3 calls [1,060]
* * MP1 shows :
* * K♥ Q♥
* * MP3 shows :
* * 8♣ 8♠ BTN shows :
* * 7♣ 7♠
* * Potsize: 7066
Turn:
* * 4♠
* * Potsize: 7066
River:
* * 5♣
* * MP1 shows two pair, Jacks and Fives
* * MP3 shows two pair, Jacks and Eights
* * MP3 wins the side pot (2,120) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
* * BTN shows two pair, Jacks and Sevens
* * MP3 wins the main pot (6,005) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
* * 1 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 1

I was pretty sure I was beat and at the very least knew someone had me coinflipping. It turns out i was wrong, but would you have folded here?

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[Jillychemung]

Obviously you set out to set mine this hand but this hand shows why set mining doesn't work too well in tournaments. Are you worried that the minraiser may have AA/KK? Have any reads that any of those 3 are slow playing AA/KK or passively play QQ/JJ but would call a reraise? You only really need to worry about what MP2 would do if you raised here as the BTN will have a pretty wide range to get his stack in with a lot fo dead money in the pot.

As played you have to fold since you are set mining, you can't call the additional 1695 with the likelyhood that you are only playing for 2 outs.

Unless you have a good read that one of the early 3 is slow playing AA/KK or will 4-bet QQ/JJ after flatting a minraise I think you should have raised here to 1600-1800. This would most likely isolate you against one of the shorter stacks. Then you can easily shove this flop as the odds that an opponent will have a J are small.

 

[bgomez89]

what were the blinds?

 

[Implied Odds3]

what were the blinds?

not sure, i wonder why that didn't show up... maybe 40/80?

 

[Jillychemung]

what were the blinds?

not sure, i wonder why that didn't show up... maybe 40/80?

Yes the blinds were 40/80 and this is a problem with the hand converter in that it misses the blinds. You can figure them out pretty easily from the pot size.

 

[Debi]

Ugh - I really tried to read this converted hand.

Now I know why I prefer them un-converted.

 

[Jillychemung]

Well then Debi you better bust on Nick as this is a CC converted hand. If the OP had used something like StoxPoker converter I think you'd find it a lot easier.

 

[Debi]

Nick knows ours doesn't work.

 

[tenbob]

Yea our hand convertor is a total disaster.

 

[FreezerJumps]

If one player has a bigger pair, you're doomed. If all three have two overcards, you're doomed. 10s don't do well against 3 opponents.