$1.10 PL O Deep Stacked: PLO 1.10 FTP - Was I wrong to chase hoping the board would pair?

[kmixer]

$1.10 PL O Deep Stacked: PLO 1.10 FTP - Was I wrong to chase hoping the board would pair?

I didn't think much of his Flop and turn bets here. If the board pairs I am pretty much golden.Seems to me the odds are worth chasing?

pokerstars Game #34991510166: Tournament #208702570, $1.00+$0.10 USD Omaha Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/11/06 9:49:41 ET
Table '208702570 46' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: niterunner66 (2300 in chips)
Seat 2: kmixer (2535 in chips)
Seat 3: Luludi (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: SMMOUROS (5765 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: atlant71 (2670 in chips)
Seat 6: Mirimari271 (3120 in chips)
Seat 7: jcr1818 (3480 in chips)
Seat 8: pacnejc (3045 in chips)
Seat 9: speedylu67 (3045 in chips)
jcr1818: posts small blind 15
pacnejc: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kmixer [Kd Kh 3d 4d]
speedylu67: calls 30
niterunner66: folds
kmixer: raises 60 to 90
Luludi: calls 90
SMMOUROS: folds
atlant71: folds
Mirimari271: calls 90
jcr1818: folds
pacnejc: calls 60
speedylu67: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [9s Ks As]
pacnejc: checks
speedylu67: checks
kmixer: checks
Luludi: bets 120
Mirimari271: folds
pacnejc: folds
speedylu67: folds
kmixer: calls 120
*** TURN *** [9s Ks As] 2♥
kmixer: checks
Luludi: bets 180
kmixer: calls 180
*** RIVER *** [9s Ks As 2h] 8♥
kmixer: checks
Luludi: bets 420
kmixer: folds
Uncalled bet (420) returned to Luludi
Luludi collected 1065 from pot
Luludi: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1065 | Rake 0
Board [9s Ks As 2h 8h]
Seat 1: niterunner66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kmixer folded on the River
Seat 3: Luludi collected (1065)
Seat 4: SMMOUROS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: atlant71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Mirimari271 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: jcr1818 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: pacnejc (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: speedylu67 folded on the Flop

 

[kmixer]

I know dorkus said no results but I am not looking for advice on how to play this hand as much as I am the odds and whether I should have been chasing.

 

[roundcat]

Are you familiar enough with the villain to know he wouldn't just be flatting your raise with AA here instead of 3-betting preflop? If he does have AA in his hand, obviously he has you crushed all the way.

Assuming he does not have AA for top set but instead has a small flush:

Your call on the flop was good especially because the villain bet so little -- 120 into a 465 pot. If that's the case, your equity is about 35% and you're getting almost 5:1 to call. Even if he had bet full pot you would have been getting very nearly even money, though I wouldn't advocate a call in that case.

On the turn he also bets small, so you have to call 180 to win 885. Your equity there (again assuming he has a flush) is about 25% and again you're getting almost 5:1 to call, which is plenty. If he bets 350 (about half pot) or more you should fold.

This also assumes he wouldn't be betting out with bottom set or top two pair, in which case you're ahead all the way. There could be an argument made for check raising the flop since he bet so small, which could indicate a weak made hand, but if he gets stubborn with a non-nut flush it could end up costing you more chips than you'd like to commit.

 

[kmixer]

Thank you very much for the response. I will keep the check raise in mind for next time around. The other thing I think about it maybe I should have made a pot size bet when I flopped the K.

Are you familiar enough with the villain to know he wouldn't just be flatting your raise with AA here instead of 3-betting preflop? If he does have AA in his hand, obviously he has you crushed all the way.

Assuming he does not have AA for top set but instead has a small flush:

Your call on the flop was good especially because the villain bet so little -- 120 into a 465 pot. If that's the case, your equity is about 35% and you're getting almost 5:1 to call. Even if he had bet full pot you would have been getting very nearly even money, though I wouldn't advocate a call in that case.

On the turn he also bets small, so you have to call 180 to win 885. Your equity there (again assuming he has a flush) is about 25% and again you're getting almost 5:1 to call, which is plenty. If he bets 350 (about half pot) or more you should fold.

This also assumes he wouldn't be betting out with bottom set or top two pair, in which case you're ahead all the way. There could be an argument made for check raising the flop since he bet so small, which could indicate a weak made hand, but if he gets stubborn with a non-nut flush it could end up costing you more chips than you'd like to commit.

 

[WiZZiM]

Check raise the flop??

with so many players in preflop, chances are, someone made the flush..... trips are usually beat here, but the price he is laying you compels you to call and hope that the board pairs, i think you played it good...

maybe raise more preflop?