$1.10 NL HE MTT: AQs in HJ

[mariussica88]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

1.10

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

This is a $1.10 bounty tournament and this is the 9th hand played.

Not much info on the UTG+1 player but his stats are fishy a bit : VPIP 57 PFR 14 Limp 50 and Cold Call 33

Preflop I decided to 3bet since there are a lot of players to act after me. That flop is a nice flop for my range, so when he donk bet I raised in order to get more chips in, on the turn comes a 9 and I think that is not a bad card even though he has some 9x, 7x, Qx hands in his range. Now he gets to bet more then before, usually this is a sign that they hit something or have some more outs.

What would you guys do here on turn?

pokerstars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 20/40 (5 ante) - 9 players


NA: 3,000 (75 bb)
UTG: 2,456 (61 bb)
UTG+1: 2,953 (74 bb)
MP: 3,379 (84 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 3,352 (84 bb)
CO: 3,084 (77 bb)
BU: 3,010 (75 bb)
SB: 3,308 (83 bb)
BB: 3,049 (76 bb)

Pre-Flop: (100) Hero is MP+1 with Q♠ A♠
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 80, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 260, 4 players fold, UTG+1 calls 180

Flop: (620) 9♣ 7♠ Q♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 40, Hero raises to 297, UTG+1 calls 257

Turn: (1,214) 9♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 607, Hero ?

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Totally on board 3-betting, when you have deep stacks, and he only makes a min-raise. You want to isolate the fishy looking opponent here rather than invite a multiway pot. If he comes back over the top with a 4-bet, that is probably going to be pretty "honest" as well, so you can just fold, unless he size incorrectly and give you a great price.

Flop
A min-donk in a 3-bet pot looks very weak, so you definitely dont want to allow him to freeze the action and see the next card for almost free. Sizing looks fine, but you could also go a bit larger.

Turn
I am definitely not folding TPTK to a turn donk bet getting better than 3:1. But I also think, its to thin to raise again for value. This time he does use a real sizing, and obviously you could be behind now to trips. So for me this is a pretty easy call and then evaluate on the river. I would mostly be looking to get to a cheap showdown at this point, so unless the river is specifically another Q, I am likely checking behind, if he check, and just calling if he bet small. If he jam river, which would be a bit less than a pot sized bet, you will need to make a decision, if you think, he is bluffing or overvaluing a worse hand like KQ often enough. It could end up being a sad fold, especially if backdoor diamonds have completed, and he still jam.

 

[mariussica88]

Thank you for your reply. 🙏

Here is the rest of the hand. Do you guys call or fold the river jam?


PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 20/40 (5 ante) - 9 players

UTG: 2,456 (61 bb)
UTG+1: 2,953 (74 bb)
MP: 3,379 (84 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 3,352 (84 bb)
CO: 3,084 (77 bb)
BU: 3,010 (75 bb)
SB: 3,308 (83 bb)
BB: 3,049 (76 bb)

Pre-Flop: (100) Hero is MP+1 with Q♠ A♠
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 80, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 260, 4 players fold, UTG+1 calls 180

Flop: (620) 9♣ 7♠ Q♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 40, Hero raises to 297, UTG+1 calls 257

Turn: (1,214) 9♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 607, Hero calls 607

River: (2,428) K♥ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 1,784 (all-in), Hero ?

Spoiler

I did call the river. I felt in the moment that I has good with my hand.

Total pot: 5,996

Showdown:
UTG+1 shows 7♦ 3♦ (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 22%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)


MP+1 (Hero) shows Q♠ A♠ (two pair, Queens and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 78%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

MP+1 (Hero) wins 5,996

 

[fundiver199]

River
On this card I fold, unless I have some kind of sick read on the opponent, that he is on massive tilt or something. Diamonds missed, but the one hand, I talked about, that he might overvalue, got there, and you dont even have top pair any more. If he has a hand like KJ or KT of diamonds, which lead turn as a semibluff, now those hands beat you as well.

Results
So you called, and he had busted diamonds. That is not totally surpricing, but I am not sure, you are good often enough to justify this in the long run. The fact, it was a backdoor draw, matters, because he cant really call on the flop with any combo of diamonds, or at least he should not be calling. This one had a pair, and there were some, that had a straightdraw, but if for instance he had A5 of diamonds, that hand should just fold on the flop and not be in his range later.

Its also a bit weird, he turned this hand into a bluff, when he had a pair, and of course opening and then calling a 3-bet out of position with suited junk is extremely loose. So this was an opponent, who was both very loose and very aggressive in a bad way. And if you had solid information about that, it makes your call a bit better. But I still think, this is a bit iffy, and I would probably rather let him bluff me.

 

[eetenor]

Thank you for your reply. 🙏

Here is the rest of the hand. Do you guys call or fold the river jam?


PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 20/40 (5 ante) - 9 players

UTG: 2,456 (61 bb)
UTG+1: 2,953 (74 bb)
MP: 3,379 (84 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 3,352 (84 bb)
CO: 3,084 (77 bb)
BU: 3,010 (75 bb)
SB: 3,308 (83 bb)
BB: 3,049 (76 bb)

Pre-Flop: (100) Hero is MP+1 with Q♠ A♠
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 80, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 260, 4 players fold, UTG+1 calls 180

Flop: (620) 9♣ 7♠ Q♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 40, Hero raises to 297, UTG+1 calls 257

Turn: (1,214) 9♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 607, Hero calls 607

River: (2,428) K♥ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets 1,784 (all-in), Hero ?

Spoiler

I did call the river. I felt in the moment that I has good with my hand.

Total pot: 5,996

Showdown:
UTG+1 shows 7♦ 3♦ (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 22%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)


MP+1 (Hero) shows Q♠ A♠ (two pair, Queens and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 78%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

MP+1 (Hero) wins 5,996

The math is we have to call 1784 to win 3212 so is the V bluffing more than 37%+ of the time as a standard play- As well as our V betting for value worse hands?

We try to look at the spot to determine the above frequency----
The data we use is based on estimated V behavior
If the V had a 9 in a 3 bet pot why would they lead? 77? QQ? Qx? Q9? AA KK??
If leading is low frequency with value hands then leading with draws or bluffs becomes higher frequency
That means our V can easily have more than 37% bluffs here on river.

As we saw in this spot the V had that bad turn lead type of hand and then had to shove to win when they thought a scare card hit river

 

[dallam]

1.1$ MTT bounty


Preflop: We are playing really deep, so I doubt to make the fish fold here with this 3-bet. I see this action from us rather a protection to only playing with the fish, and not really making multiway by letting more others to chasing, since we have a pretty valid combination to do. I'm not really afraid of seeing a 4-bet in this scenario from original agressor, they way too often just call, and even if they do make a 4-bet its many times a min-bet or an all-in. At least I experience these from bad players at these micro level MTTs or freerolls as well.

Postflop: Very foolish open, no reason to do unless opp not wanna slow it down by a draw or second or third pair, maybe a dealt weak pocket. So once again you doing it right, we can make a value-bet here.

Turn: Opp now puts him on a 9 and only. FH-s are impossible, so only sets. We have the best two pair combination. So if not sets, what? Tons of flush-draws maybe with a straight draw as well, but not J10s. So I'd call as well.

River: K change nothing. If he has a set, he not improved, although the pot is very big that this remained the only possible option for him to do as a bluff. So I see here missed flushes and straights. So if I call of the Turn and the River does not bring the third diamond at the table, I call the shove too. Glad it worked for you.
Again, the limit and the stats of your opp (also the 1bb bet post) mainly determined this person to be a bad player, and as was mentioned above that you actually have great odds as well to catching a bluff, which is totally possible in this case, calling this off the whole time maybe not our best taste of the mouth, but something we should consider by all of the circumstances. (+ How many times we will be folding top pair top kicker on a paired board when opp clearly deluded)