$1.1 NLHE MTT: 1010 to call two all in shovees pre ?

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PokerStars - $1+$0.10|4000/8000 Ante 800 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 14.25 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 10)
MP+1: 8.52 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP+2: 19.95 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 12.59 BB
BTN: 53.89 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: 15.31 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 26.82 BB
UTG: 54.98 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: 11.8 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has T:club: T:diamond:

fold, UTG+1 raises to 11.7 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 12.49 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (25.81 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: A:club: 5:spade:

Turn: (25.81 BB, 2 players) 3:heart:

River: (25.81 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:

UTG+1 shows K:diamond: Q:club: (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 44%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
CO shows 9:spade: 9:heart: (Two Pair, Nines and Threes) (Pre 56%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
CO wins 25.81 BB
 
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TT strong hand what fold, i think we can gambling because its 50% our stack, if we lose, we will still have around 10BB .
About equity we have around 40% , first player shove sure with wide 20% range hands, second player call around 10-15% range hands. We have good pot odds and call this very profitable..
 
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Easy call in 1,1$ 3x turbo, if neither opp is really, really tight. Generally I'd think average player would shove top20% and second player go all-in around top7% which gives you easily odds to call.
 
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this is a tough spot. If it's a SnG I think you gotta fold because you've got decent chips already and due to ICM you benefit by those 2 duking it out.

If it's a MTT then it depends how close to the money bubble you are.

You could potentially be facing 4 overs. Or they are sharing outs (first player jams AJ and second player rejams AK) then you've got to fade 3 overs or between them they've got 8 outs you have to fade.

I think the most likely situation is 1 of them has a pair and 1 of them has 2 overs. We can pretty much rule out the smallest pairs. so maybe we'll say Player A has a range of 66+ and player be has a range of AJ+. If that's the case you've got 31% equity in the hand.

If we put player A on a range of 66+ and AJ+ and player B on a range of 99+ and AK then you've got 33% equity in the hand.

so....it's close, extremely close and I think tourney stage and tourney style will matter a lot here.
 
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GTO is UTG+1 to jam top 15%(any pair, KQo+ T9s+), CO to call 77+, AJ+, and for us to call 99+, AQo+.

I would guess that most UTG+1's at these stakes are a bit tighter than this, and that CO is roughly calling the above range, so TT is a close call.
 
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Maybe a fold is also good,if based on ICM.Unless you got AA just let those two eliminate each other.
 
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Easy fold here.

I dont like my equity with two opponents all-in.
 
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I think this is a call if it's the tournament I'm thinking. The crazy $1 rebuy with 15k+ players and turbo structure.

I mean, I really need some stats, the tighter they are the more it becomes a fold but I think calling is +cEV for sure.

I've just given UTG+1 33+, AJo+, ATs, KQo, KJs+ and it's interesting because now vs the CO range we can really only give a much stronger range like 99+,AQs+AQo+

vs these 2 ranges TT actually doesn't do to bad although we ain't in great shape any means. Vs those ranges we only need 32% and based on pot odds we only need 2-1 odds which we are getting slightly better so it's probably not bad to call here and given we still have chips left if we lose I think I'm more inclined to call based on a few more reasons, mainly this tournament being a turbo and the huge amount of players in the field that chip accumulation is vital at this point.

If you was to tell me though either of these players had really tight stats then we narrow their shoving range and the more it becomes a fold. The key here though is stats are really needed big time or some sort of read to determine if this is a call or fold.
 
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