$0.25 NLHE STT: JKs, OTB, 0.25 Sit & Go

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When early blinds KJs very marginal hand, better fold preflop..

About your game, first mistake its your size raise, need little more like 120-130 enough because 90 very small bet, you give good pot odds that blinds call also.

In flop when board dry ant no high cards, need only check behind and look turn, if you get nothing better check/fold and not bluffing, because in micro limits this not profitable when in game very more bad players..
 
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@horizon12: Thanks for the feedback! It makes more sense now :)
 
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Nice play.

His turn bet means representing a hand like Ax or better.
 
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Not sure I agree with Horizon about not playing KJs. This is a perfectly good hand to play in position - it plays pretty well post-flop and, in this case, you only had a limper in front of you.

Pre-flop - Do agree that the bet needed to be a little bigger - particularly as there are already antes in play. Decent rule of thumb when you are raising with limpers ahead of you is 3BB plus 1BB for each limper so 120 would have been a better raise here. Surprised BB didn't come along for the ride here.

Flop - you have completely whiffed and villain knows you have probably whiffed on this flop. His limping range will include lots of Ax hands and it is pretty likely he will float with most of them on this flop. He may even have hit a low pair. For that reason I don't like the c-bet here as it's very rarely going to induce a fold.

Turn - he is repping Ax and he probably has it so just fold and move on to the next hand.

Turn - as
 
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about the raising size
In position any raise with a good hand is fine.

Playing big pairs a higher bet is normally used. Making a bigger bet preflop a c-bet would be normal.
Min raising a c-bet on a flat board is not standard and therefor suspicious. Making jokes with a fat stack is not asked for.
 
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fold preflop? what for?

raise is fine and so is the sizing. we don't want to make it 120-130 and hope that the CO folds, we WANT him to call. don't really care if the blinds call here either as we have a playable multiway type hand. and generally the size of the bet does not matter at this level, so you are better off playing exploitably and only betting bigger when you have big hands.

on the flop definitely don't want to just check it and let him realize his equity, a c-bet is kind of mandatory unless you can bluff catch this hand on later streets. But the sizing could be a little smaller becuase most likely he has not hit this board.

PG- villian very likely is not thinking about our range, so all we have to think about is his range, he's likely missed alot even if he has a decent chunk of Ax, no matter what he misses more than he hits, we have initiative and a small bet should show enough folds to yield a profit long term. Worst case we get to a turn cheaply and we still have initiative to barrell or check and catch bluffs or check and give up.


Think OP played it fine here overall
 
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Thanks for the feedback! Definitely some food for thought! :)
 
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Fold preflop is terrible play here IP.

pre: Just call IP and re-evaluate. imo

ofc raise is fine too (possible), but i do not like it in general. Why are we raising? we do not need to protect our hand and raise for value is out of question since it is early stage+no info and our hand has postflop value! imo
 
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it's for value ambur, this guy is clearly a fish, and we have two cards(doesn't really matter what our cards are here to a certain degree), so it's almost always for value no matter what our hand is. Even if we keep it really simple plan here of raising and c-betting the flop, it's almost always profitable vs a single opponant, so it's technically a bluff if we raise and c-bet the flop after missing, but in reality it's a value play, as we win the chips in the middle just from pure folds so often.

with reads obviously we can change that and if the overall population tendancy is to call the flop really, really wide then we can change our game, but in general it should show an easy profit if we just raise/c-bet flop, but then on top of that, we're likely a better player who will not make as many mistakes postflop, so we have the added value of being in position vs a fish in a nice sized pot for our stack size...
 
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First mistake,player 5 limps,you should think is he a fish or he is putting a trap?How he won so many chips he played all in or he limped when he won those chips!!
Second mistake when you are playing KJ from position you call not raise your are not keeping a winning hand pre flop even ducks(2 2) winning you pre flop,you hope that your hand will be the best in the showdown.
Third mistake when we raising pre flop we raising three big blinds and if we have limpets we put one big blind for every limper.So if you believe that KJ is a premium hand you should put 30x3=90 and because we have one limper 90+30=120 chips.you are doing this because you want to play with only one player!!
Forth mistake why did you bet in the flop with nothing,ok you bet he calls.In the turn he bet why you didn't reraise to be sure that he has the ace.If he calls you are sure in the river that you are holding the losing hand!
Poker is a strategy game think before you act don't through your chips without a reason!!!!!
 
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