dj11
Legend
Silver Level
As the laws currently stand, NJ, NV, DE have regulated OLP.
California is embedded in some serious infighting. Almost everyone knows it's coming to CA, but the multiple interested parties are bickering about who and how it's gonna happen.
IF (note the big IF) Stars comes back it will be via skins in CA.
Currently the un-coordinated parties are a coalition of several L.A. based casinos and a couple of enlightened Tribal casino's, some un-enlightened Tribal Casino's who think they can start an already establish industry fresh. Then there is the Horse Racing faction.
They (the Horse Racing biz's) have wanted to get into casino gaming for as long as I can remember, perhaps the closest they got was at Hollywood Park, where the Casino survives, but the Horse Racing venue was demolished and now is poised to possibly become a NFL stadium if they can get a Franchise to move there.
The Tribes do not want Horse Racing in MORE than they don't want Stars in. The enlightened Casino coalition wants to team up with Stars, and while I have never read it anywhere, I have talked to TD's at 2 of those casino's who verified they are open to Stars bringing its global pool of players. I did not asked how they felt about the Horse Racing faction getting in.
California is embedded in some serious infighting. Almost everyone knows it's coming to CA, but the multiple interested parties are bickering about who and how it's gonna happen.
IF (note the big IF) Stars comes back it will be via skins in CA.
Currently the un-coordinated parties are a coalition of several L.A. based casinos and a couple of enlightened Tribal casino's, some un-enlightened Tribal Casino's who think they can start an already establish industry fresh. Then there is the Horse Racing faction.
They (the Horse Racing biz's) have wanted to get into casino gaming for as long as I can remember, perhaps the closest they got was at Hollywood Park, where the Casino survives, but the Horse Racing venue was demolished and now is poised to possibly become a NFL stadium if they can get a Franchise to move there.
The Tribes do not want Horse Racing in MORE than they don't want Stars in. The enlightened Casino coalition wants to team up with Stars, and while I have never read it anywhere, I have talked to TD's at 2 of those casino's who verified they are open to Stars bringing its global pool of players. I did not asked how they felt about the Horse Racing faction getting in.
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jsh169
Visionary
Silver Level
A2345Razz
Legend
Silver Level
Man, sad to see Ca. not progress as that's the biggest domino in the US market.
We still have Pa. which might fall in 2016. I believe if Pa. and NJ and Del. can create a common blue state market and share liquidity, you'll see at least 7 blue states come into the pool within 3-4 yrs.
States like Illinois, Mass., NY., Minn, Maryland, Conn., RI, and more could easily go into a well regulated market with established revenue and safeguards....we just need a big domino (big state) to fall and cooperation between the states.
We still have Pa. which might fall in 2016. I believe if Pa. and NJ and Del. can create a common blue state market and share liquidity, you'll see at least 7 blue states come into the pool within 3-4 yrs.
States like Illinois, Mass., NY., Minn, Maryland, Conn., RI, and more could easily go into a well regulated market with established revenue and safeguards....we just need a big domino (big state) to fall and cooperation between the states.
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
Dude, you can withdraw the money at anytime, if they are still letting US players do that.
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TianLong
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Legislation
Until there is a national federally regulated legislation, poker stars will not be available throughout the US except in states they're already in. Since it's state by state level, I think Poker Stars may be able to enter that way, unless the states don't want it. But anywhere with legalized casino gambling I believe should be allowed like even Louisiana and Oklahoma.
Texas is getting close for their own casino state wide, however the bill/legislation was tabled and won't be on the ballot this year unless something changes. A big state and player like Texas could make a big move once legalized and help push online poker sites like Poker Stars back on the scene nationally.
WinStar already has bought Lone Star Park and partnering with Texas Motor Speedway. So who knows something is bound to happen soon any where at anytime; much like the decriminalization of weed. Roughly 80% of Texans want this to happen with Poker; that's not marginal. That's a win for the state if the damn governing bodies would put it on the ballot!
I say, nationally for now, online poker should be made for any state that has legalized gambling and casinos ... at the very least they should consider that. The government and poker sites (i.e. Poker Stars) would have to work closely together on how to manage and track it on individual state levels.
Until there is a national federally regulated legislation, poker stars will not be available throughout the US except in states they're already in. Since it's state by state level, I think Poker Stars may be able to enter that way, unless the states don't want it. But anywhere with legalized casino gambling I believe should be allowed like even Louisiana and Oklahoma.
Texas is getting close for their own casino state wide, however the bill/legislation was tabled and won't be on the ballot this year unless something changes. A big state and player like Texas could make a big move once legalized and help push online poker sites like Poker Stars back on the scene nationally.
WinStar already has bought Lone Star Park and partnering with Texas Motor Speedway. So who knows something is bound to happen soon any where at anytime; much like the decriminalization of weed. Roughly 80% of Texans want this to happen with Poker; that's not marginal. That's a win for the state if the damn governing bodies would put it on the ballot!
I say, nationally for now, online poker should be made for any state that has legalized gambling and casinos ... at the very least they should consider that. The government and poker sites (i.e. Poker Stars) would have to work closely together on how to manage and track it on individual state levels.
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TianLong
Rising Star
Bronze Level
With that attitude you won't win. Win or lose, you have to have a 'Must Win' attitude if you're going to make any decent amount of money. No matter how tough, no matter the site, get better at your game.
All the training Poker Stars Online provides, all the online and live tables I've practiced on, the books I've read, hell I even made my own poker plan document much like my trading plan. It has helped A LOT to keep playing, keep practicing, and analyze all your hands and games thoroughly much like analyzing each trade you take in the markets.
Funny thing is trading the markets and poker as far as the discipline, having a rule-based strategy, building consistency, variance, swings, tracking your hands, games, the fancy graphs of our progress, risk and money management, psychology, risk/reward ratios, probabilities and odds, emotions like greed and fear, and other factors are EXACTLY the same.
Trading and Poker is 95% psychological and 5% technical. You cannot consistently win if you're mind is already made up on being a loser. Sure you'll take some losses, but that's a controllable variable that you set for yourself, knowing your risks, proper bankroll management, etc.
The reason why pro players stay pro players and some of us are able to make a decent living off of poker, they have one thing most of us don't: a well disciplined, rule-based strategy(ies) plan. Once again, no different than a pro or floor trader of the markets. They make up the 1% of poker players that many of us dream of.
Trading is my profession. Poker is my fun budget.
Sil3ntness
Legend
Silver Level
I could care less if pokerstars comes back. I just wish USA had another "Moneymaker" boom that sends thousands of players to deposit on all the sites 
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jsh169
Visionary
Silver Level
That is fine, I came off a bit to harsh, my bad. Everyone will tell you that the Pokerstars economy has greatly dried up, a lot of pros unless they are grinding for Supernova don't even bother playing cash there. A lot of these posts think that it is going to be the Pokerstars of old and it clearly isn't going to be.
Poker will always be beatable at least at the right stakes, rumors are flying though that Pokerstars is going to tighten the clamps and reduce the rewards further next year. Poker is becoming so tough, I would recommend another path, I'm not advising just get another 9-5 run of the mill job (just over broke) and become a mindless slave, there are opportunities out there, myself included have to come find them.
Random question, how tough is it to get into day trading and what not? I'm not looking for a get rich scheme or anything like that, but is it something worth spending time looking into as a total noob?
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rw11687
Rock Star
Silver Level
Day trading is wild and requires a lot of capital to make it profitable. Also, you can't just pick it up overnight, it takes years of studying, failures, and experience to become consistently profitable. Most people burn out or lose their money before they get to that point.
If your interested in the market, I would recommend swing trading. It's much less volatile than day trading and can still be very profitable. But the same rules apply, lots of work and time is required before you can even sniff consistent profit.
Before even putting a cent into the market, study up on swing trading theories. Then, join investopedia.com and create a fake trading account. Test out your theories and tweak them. It's not 100% the same as real money but it will show you how hard it is and work the theories into profitability. Trust me on this, I tried jumping in years ago and got smacked. Not for a lot of money, but it was for me at the time. Since then, I have put it in time studying and practicing theories, and have been a successful swing trader since I got involved again 8 months ago.
moots
Min-cash specialist
Loyaler
As you can see, it's been a rumor for the last 2 years as well.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
In some of the hoohaw after Black Friday, there was a notion of a 5 year 'ban' (not the right word). Many changes to Stars in particular, but the OLP environment in general suggest that it is both still a rumor, and yet reasonably possible.
The best option specifically might seem to be in Ca, where several legislative efforts seem to favor a coalition of several poker entities which will at worst not nix Stars from the mix.
Bottom line remains, its all politics.
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blobman
Legend
Silver Level
Pokerstars is back in the USA now in the form of one-day fantasy sports. That bodes well as it gets the brand out there and shows to the politics and government that Pokerstars can behave properly and can be trusted.
There is a huge overlap between those who play DFS and poker, namely 18-35yo males.
There is a huge overlap between those who play DFS and poker, namely 18-35yo males.
Yeti Trix
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I would love to have PokerStars come back to the U.S. I've never played on party poker though.
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Kekule
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I loved playing on PokerStars back in the early 2000's. Does anyone (obviously from outside of the US) play on both PokerStars and either FullFlush/BetOnline/Bovada? Other than the difference in traffic, are there any notable differences that make PokerStars that much better?
I remember PokerStars being so good because of the player incentives, the awesome tourney selections (good satellites), and super easy pay out/money loading options. But since I haven't been on there in over a decade I have no idea if it's really still the best, or if the other sites are more on par with it now.
Any opinions? What makes PokerStars the best in this day and age?
I remember PokerStars being so good because of the player incentives, the awesome tourney selections (good satellites), and super easy pay out/money loading options. But since I haven't been on there in over a decade I have no idea if it's really still the best, or if the other sites are more on par with it now.
Any opinions? What makes PokerStars the best in this day and age?
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bnasp2
Visionary
Silver Level
That one-day fantasy sports, its basically betting for real money? Just instead of betting on game outcome, you are betting on best players and competing with other users?
Gary_Heart
Gotta Have Heart
Loyaler
PokerStars to Return to the USA - But When and Where?
I'm a US player looking forward to when PokerStars returns to the United States. I've been reading they'll be returning soon but can't find anything exactly for sure. Here is some info I've found ...
I hoping soon for California - but there will need to be a more successful strategy to finally legalize California online poker in 2016.
California 2015 is not to be. ...
Anyone else here heard anything about their state they can add? ...
I'm a US player looking forward to when PokerStars returns to the United States. I've been reading they'll be returning soon but can't find anything exactly for sure. Here is some info I've found ...
I hoping soon for California - but there will need to be a more successful strategy to finally legalize California online poker in 2016.
California 2015 is not to be. ...
Anyone else here heard anything about their state they can add? ...
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
I'm a US player looking forward to when PokerStars returns to the United States. I've been reading they'll be returning soon but can't find anything exactly for sure. Here is some info I've found ...
I hoping soon for California - but there will need to be a more successful strategy to finally legalize California online poker in 2016.
California 2015 is not to be. ...
Anyone else here heard anything about their state they can add? ...
The progress in California is that we have clarified the opposing sides somewhat. Problem is the tribes who want to re-invent the wheel. One thing that has not been clarified in Ca. is whether we will ring the state off like NV, and NJ.
If Ca could bring the full cadre of Stars (meaning Star's Global Player Pool) to Ca, even if it is just in collaboration with existing Card Rooms (the most likely scenario) then Ca could be the central hub of a new USA poker boom. But seeing as there are no visionaries in Ca anymore, don't be holding your breath.
Gary_Heart
Gotta Have Heart
Loyaler
I've read some of your other posts - enough to know you know what your talking about - I think if there was a current event collage of poker - you would be the Dean of Professors - I'll breath
Thanks for you efforts to enlighten us.