PokerStars...Is this possible ???

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Two subsequent rounds
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Two subsequent 3 pairs
All in
Two wins
Is there anyone that believes that pokerstars does not cheating us ???
 

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of course it is possible .. even new to poker and I understand that there is a notion of chances, I think the question is only in the quantitative ratio of wins and losses ...
 
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Of course is matter of chances. Everything is possible... But the probability for this is one to million... And the guy it was so sure... He didn't thing for a second for all in. He was sure that will be 3 again. So simple...
 
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I have two subsequent times pair of 3. In the first opponent had AA. I win with the river (3). Second time pair of 3 again. All-in from the opponent... I am calling again with a pair of 3 ??? Magic...
 
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I am done with PokerStars. This was the final strike. They earn billions for our stupidity. I am sure that everything is fake...
 
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It's an exploitable RNG. Not sure if it was designed with this in mind, but it is exploitable and being actively exploited.
 
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People win lotteries with 10,000,000 to 1 dog. People win bad beat jackpots that are like 660,000 to 1 dog. Shit happens Stars is not cheating anyone without proof....nothing unusual here.
 
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You lose the first one 20% of the time and the second 50% of the time.So this isn't even an unusual run of cards.Wait until you lose 30 or 40 hands in a row where your a favorite.
 
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Where is the cheating?

33 has 20% equity vs AA, 50% equity vs QJo in an AIPF situation. Think is total equity for all winning combinations.

odds of being dealt 33 is 221:1. Odds of being dealt 33 again is still 22:1.
 
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Of course is matter of chances. Everything is possible... But the probability for this is one to million... And the guy it was so sure... He didn't thing for a second for all in. He was sure that will be 3 again. So simple...
And did you think your QJ was ahead of their shove range? If they're jamming 33, it's safe to say they're likely jamming 22+, A10+, KJ+.

Or do you just see QJ vs 33 and think you got cheated in 50/50 spot?
 
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What are the odds of getting two identical hole pairs in a row and hitting a set with them twice in a row as well? I think that's more the observation here. Not that it matters statistically because hey, anything can happen in the short run.
 
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What are the odds of getting two identical hole pairs in a row and hitting a set with them twice in a row as well? I think that's more the observation here. Not that it matters statistically because hey, anything can happen in the short run.
They weren't identical.

Odds of getting 33 2x in a row? 221:1

Odds of flopping a set is still ~12% for both hands. Odds of making a set by the river, after the flop is ~8.5%.

Yes, statisc
 
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Hello.
It all depends on how you played the preflop. Perhaps you were not enough aggressive. But in any case, I think that you are not lucky. This happens sometimes.
 
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Hi, I think there is no cheating there, in the first hand he just got the set and in the other the full house, I do not say that he was well played those hands he just had luck besides QJ since I do not know how it was developed but if all-in preflop was not a good move, in my opinion, you need a larger sample than that to be able to say that the site with the most online poker players cheats for some players win.
 
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in any case for the cash game is really abuse on poker star.I have not managed to win one hand in 1 week. sorry but in the game live it's more difficult to win and especially to touch these cards ...
 
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Anything is possible. I don't think the PokerStars cheat us, they make rake. But it seems to me that there is a connection between our thoughts and the drop-down cards. I can't explain it but I feel like this.
 
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Its not possible to deduct that only from 2 plays! 2 months ago, i had JJ three consecutive times, i thought it was something rare, but stop with conspiracies please, see the math in it!
 
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I am done with PokerStars. This was the final strike. They earn billions for our stupidity. I am sure that everything is fake...


Hahhahaaha, that was a funny one mate.
I have cashed out x200 times more than deposited to PokerStars, my first and single deposit to PS was just to let them know my bank card details for the cashout.

If you think that PS wants to rob your $7.5, while they make several millions in rake each day - then think again.

If you want to hear even worse story - I have one, and this story also has 3 in it, still can't forget this nightmare. I've played Sunday Storm at PS once and had AA x3 times in a row, 3 consequetive hands with pocket Aces in my hand. First AA + A on flop = Doubled up my stack... the next hand = AA and some short stack guy goes all-in, everybody fold, I call and win vs QQ... the next hand ACES AGAIN. I was shocked, and I'm on the button, I see 2 limpers and one guy in late position raises to 4 bb, I did 3bet to 14bb, the chipleader of the table was on big blind and he calls, the guy in late position also calls, flop comes out, it's 3 3 K, Big BLind checks, Late Position Guy checks, I bet little less than 50% of pot, guess what? BB calls, LP goes all-in, I call, BB calls, turn card another 3, so we have 3 3 K 3 on turn. BB checks, I go all-in, he calls... River is 7, so community cards are 3 3 K 3 7, I have AA, LP player has AK, BB and chipleader and winner of the hand has 8-3suited. He called 14bb bet pre-flop with 8-3s, actually he added 13bb, cause he had big blind. What's the worst part of the story? Is that all 3 of us had enough chips to be in the money, We could just close our windows and wait for 70 more players to go out to win something... me and the guy in late position went out, I was angry and was observing the guy who kicked us for 20 more minutes, cause he stayed alive for 20 minutes and went out just before the bubble, he was reseated to a table with 2 players who had bigger stacks and lost all of his chips during first 2 hands at that new table.

That's poker.
In MTTs luck + timer are important.
In the SnG tht You've played for 7.50 only luck matters.
 
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Hahhahaaha, that was a funny one mate.
I have cashed out x200 times more than deposited to PokerStars, my first and single deposit to PS was just to let them know my bank card details for the cashout.

If you think that PS wants to rob your $7.5, while they make several millions in rake each day - then think again.

If you want to hear even worse story - I have one, and this story also has 3 in it, still can't forget this nightmare. I've played Sunday Storm at PS once and had AA x3 times in a row, 3 consequetive hands with pocket Aces in my hand. First AA + A on flop = Doubled up my stack... the next hand = AA and some short stack guy goes all-in, everybody fold, I call and win vs QQ... the next hand ACES AGAIN. I was shocked, and I'm on the button, I see 2 limpers and one guy in late position raises to 4 bb, I did 3bet to 14bb, the chipleader of the table was on big blind and he calls, the guy in late position also calls, flop comes out, it's 3 3 K, Big BLind checks, Late Position Guy checks, I bet little less than 50% of pot, guess what? BB calls, LP goes all-in, I call, BB calls, turn card another 3, so we have 3 3 K 3 on turn. BB checks, I go all-in, he calls... River is 7, so community cards are 3 3 K 3 7, I have AA, LP player has AK, BB and chipleader and winner of the hand has 8-3suited. He called 14bb bet pre-flop with 8-3s, actually he added 13bb, cause he had big blind. What's the worst part of the story? Is that all 3 of us had enough chips to be in the money, We could just close our windows and wait for 70 more players to go out to win something... me and the guy in late position went out, I was angry and was observing the guy who kicked us for 20 more minutes, cause he stayed alive for 20 minutes and went out just before the bubble, he was reseated to a table with 2 players who had bigger stacks and lost all of his chips during first 2 hands at that new table.

That's poker.
In MTTs luck + timer are important.
In the SnG tht You've played for 7.50 only luck matters.
Man it was a not nice story, thanks for sharing. Stay calm keep playing...
 
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Triple threat progressive 7.5 euro
Two subsequent rounds
The same player
Two subsequent 3 pairs
All in
Two wins
Is there anyone that believes that pokerstars does not cheating us ???
It is defeat that leaves us an impression, but I think there is likelihood for good and evil, we can not rule it out
 
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I highly doubt that Pokerstars cheats on any player. A sustainable business is probably much more appreciable for them and therefore they hopefully follow a legid path. Nevertheless I would like to hear more opinions.

Greets!
 
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Whoever does not want to develop and plays poorly, he often thinks that he is disturbed and deceived ...
 
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Anything is possible with the Rng. The worst scenario is when you flop a set and lose to a runner runner straight or flush.
 
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Anything is possible with the Rng. The worst scenario is when you flop a set and lose to a runner runner straight or flush.
If you think that's the worst, you haven't been dealt the Stars specials. Straight flushes over quads over boats. Royal flush over quads. Flopped quads over boats. You name it, they've got it. From the modest higher kicker setup to the higher two pair setup and then up and above beyond that.
 
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I highly doubt that Pokerstars cheats on any player. A sustainable business is probably much more appreciable for them and therefore they hopefully follow a legid path. Nevertheless I would like to hear more opinions.

Greets!
The question is who built Stars's RNG? Was this software and hardware engineering task contracted out? It is entirely possible Stars has nothing to do with how their RNG performs or does not know any better, although I doubt it.
 
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