Poker Stars...

[Mauricio Perrotta]

A big mistake by pokerstars in my opinion to get rid of the free freerolls. The players lose

 

[fundiver199]

A big mistake by Pokerstars in my opinion to get rid of the free freerolls. The players lose

But maybe PokerStars win? Of course only PokerStars (and perhaps CC) know, why they made this business decision to cancel the CC freerolls. But if their survey show, that people playing those games spend very little money on raked games, then why would they continue to host the freerolls? The whole idea of freerolls it to attract players, who then spend money elsewhere.

Like when a grocery store has a special "offer of the week", which is so cheap, that they actually lose money on each item, they sell. Of course they only do this, because they hope, that people will also buy something else, when they are in the store already. So if the grocery store notice, that 9 out of 10 customers only purchase the "special offer" and nothing else, they will likely stop making such campaigns. And quite possibly its something similar, that happened here.

 

[Andyreas]

Of course they only do this, because they hope, that people will also buy something else, when they are in the store already.

Similar example from IKEA:
Due to increased online sales, they're loosing revenue because people tend to make less spontaneous purchases online than in the stores.

So as a result, they intend to lower the prices of popular (larger) furniture to hopefully bring more people to the shops again (and purchase more than intended).

After all, they're business and their main interest is making profit, not making gifts to society. 🤫

 

[fundiver199]

Due to increased online sales, they're loosing revenue because people tend to make less spontaneous purchases online than in the stores.

I can definitely confirm, that a trip to Ikea with my wife always end up being far more expensive than expected

 

[Suns of Beaches]

Like when a grocery store has a special "offer of the week", which is so cheap, that they actually lose money on each item, they sell. Of course they only do this, because they hope, that people will also buy something else, when they are in the store already. So if the grocery store notice, that 9 out of 10 customers only purchase the "special offer" and nothing else, they will likely stop making such campaigns. And quite possibly its something similar, that happened here.

Yeah if u ever planning on opening a grocery store and running promotions like this i would first make sure not too many micro poker players or freerollers live near that store 😂

Those guys will only show up for the "offer of the week" and buy anything else everywhere else where its 1 cent+ cheaper 🥲

 

[Bnobob]

Many poker players only wish they had the chance to play on Pokerstars. (ie. U.S.A.).
The site has a lot of great things going for it. Personally I'm grateful for the opportunity to play on there... & it's only a few mouse clicks away for me. Awesome!


And yah... as far as 'freerolls' go, who would want a free chance at winning money on a good site... & decent-sized prizepools too.

When they're handing out free money (for years) they all love them. They change their business approach regarding freerolls, all of a sudden they are a terrible site.

They don't give anything for free, they earn a lot from our entries into their tournaments, the freerolls are just a way for us to return some of what we invested

 

[Station_Master]

But maybe PokerStars win? Of course only PokerStars (and perhaps CC) know, why they made this business decision to cancel the CC freerolls. But if their survey show, that people playing those games spend very little money on raked games, then why would they continue to host the freerolls? The whole idea of freerolls it to attract players, who then spend money elsewhere.

Like when a grocery store has a special "offer of the week", which is so cheap, that they actually lose money on each item, they sell. Of course they only do this, because they hope, that people will also buy something else, when they are in the store already. So if the grocery store notice, that 9 out of 10 customers only purchase the "special offer" and nothing else, they will likely stop making such campaigns. And quite possibly its something similar, that happened here.

Exactly this. Too many people were just turning up for the freerolls and not playing raked games I expect. I cant see pokerstars made much money from offering these freerolls. Maybe if they offered once a week instead of daily (plus extra on the weekend) it might have been more viable.

 

[Station_Master]

They don't give anything for free, they earn a lot from our entries into their tournaments, the freerolls are just a way for us to return some of what we invested

Well they are not the most generous, but it's not like they give nothing.

Yesterday, I sat down in the big blind at a cash table, folded, won a chest for paying 1c of rake and instead of the normal powerpath ticket I got an $11 MTT ticket. That was nice!

But, overall not happy with the changes, rakeback was much better before.

 

[Mauricio Perrotta]

But maybe PokerStars win? Of course only PokerStars (and perhaps CC) know, why they made this business decision to cancel the CC freerolls. But if their survey show, that people playing those games spend very little money on raked games, then why would they continue to host the freerolls? The whole idea of freerolls it to attract players, who then spend money elsewhere.

Like when a grocery store has a special "offer of the week", which is so cheap, that they actually lose money on each item, they sell. Of course they only do this, because they hope, that people will also buy something else, when they are in the store already. So if the grocery store notice, that 9 out of 10 customers only purchase the "special offer" and nothing else, they will likely stop making such campaigns. And quite possibly its something similar, that happened here.

I understand your point but I think that losing players because they play less in their real money games is at least a bad marketing strategy.
For example: In pokertars you can play with play money, right? How many of those players actually play for real money?
Did they cancel any of those games?

 

[Poker Orifice]

They don't give anything for free, they earn a lot from our entries into their tournaments, the freerolls are just a way for us to return some of what we invested

The poker site you own & operate... how's it going?

 

[Poker Orifice]

Yeah if u ever planning on opening a grocery store and running promotions like this i would first make sure not too many micro poker players or freerollers live near that store 😂

Those guys will only show up for the "offer of the week" and buy anything else everywhere else where its 1 cent+ cheaper 🥲

Don't do this grocery store promo beside a Homeless Shelter.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I understand your point but I think that losing players because they play less in their real money games is at least a bad marketing strategy.
For example: In pokertars you can play with play money, right? How many of those players actually play for real money?
Did they cancel any of those games?

I'm thinking that a multi-BILLION dollar site would have explored their Marketing strategies more than you or me could ever possibly imagine. I'm pretty sure they have heavily invested in this aspect of their business. But hey, maybe you know better than they do... why not write to them with some great business/promotion suggestions... like maybe 'offering freerolls' to players on the site.

 

[fundiver199]

For example: In pokertars you can play with play money, right? How many of those players actually play for real money? Did they cancel any of those games?

Offering play money games is free except for the extra load, it puts on the servers. Actually sites even earn a little by selling play money chips to people, who get sort of addicted to the play money games. Offering freerolls on the other hand is money directly out of the sites pocket, so the two are not the same at all

 

[Mauricio Perrotta]

I'm thinking that a multi-BILLION dollar site would have explored their Marketing strategies more than you or me could ever possibly imagine. I'm pretty sure they have heavily invested in this aspect of their business. But hey, maybe you know better than they do... why not write to them with some great business/promotion suggestions... like maybe 'offering freerolls' to players on the site.

I'm just giving my opinion, friend, I don't care about pokerstars, they can really do whatever they want with their site, I don't care if they put in or take out freerolls, there are more important things in life than a simple game of cards. Don't take everything so literally

 

[Poker Orifice]

I'm just giving my opinion, friend, I don't care about pokerstars, they can really do whatever they want with their site, I don't care if they put in or take out freerolls, there are more important things in life than a simple game of cards. Don't take everything so literally

I was merely expressing a point.... suggesting that Pokerstars has looked into things (as far as running a business goes) a little deeper than you or I have. But thanks for laughing at my comment... makes me feel my time was well invested.
btw, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE FREEROLL TOMORROW? lol

 

[Acechador]

I did well in the PS freerolls, it's a shame they removed it... PS always mistreats its clients.

 

[Cooking]

Even though my PS CC freerolls results were just ok, I prefer to still have PS freerolls, because it's always better to have more options to play.

 

[Bnobob]

The poker site you own & operate... how's it go

This platform only sponsors the formula with our entries in their tournaments, well you must really like car racing, you should be there and not here in a poker playing community

 

[Bnobob]

I did well in the PS freerolls, it's a shame they removed it... PS always mistreats its clients.

They only owe a little of what we invest in, but they don't invest in sponsoring the formula, I hope their audience enjoys watching formula 1 so much that they forget to play on their platformThey only owe a little of what we invest in, but they don't invest in sponsoring the formula, I hope their audience enjoys watching formula 1 so much that they forget to play on their Platform

 

[Poker Orifice]

This platform only sponsors the formula with our entries in their tournaments, well you must really like car racing, you should be there and not here in a poker playing community

You must be a marketing expert. Me I just focus on stuff like 3-of-a-kind > beats > 2pair

 

[hilary antonik filho]

I started playing online poker at PokerStars, it was wonderful to be able to play every day, despite the changes, I continue to play on PS, but much less, I still have 23 tickets, I will use them all and when it is over I will continue to play

 

[fundiver199]

Last night PokerStars hosted a freeroll related to their EPT Paris stream, in which they gave away 60 tickets to Sunday Million Anniversary. Thats a $215 tournament, so a total pricepool of over $13.000. Unfortunately I could not participate in this due to the rules of the swedish license. But it goes to show, that there are still freerolls and other promotions on PokerStars. Just not the CC freerolls any more.

 

[okeedokalee]

On some racing sites the give free bets as an enticement to get involved.
The freerolls on Stars were the same something for nothing that will start you betting and hopefully for the site depositing and gambling.
Not enough people were taking the bait and depositing.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Yeah if u ever planning on opening a grocery store and running promotions like this i would first make sure not too many micro poker players or freerollers live near that store 😂

Those guys will only show up for the "offer of the week" and buy anything else everywhere else where its 1 cent+ cheaper 🥲

And then after eating free food at your store for MANY YEARS, they will take to Social Media and tell everyone that your store SUCKS and that you're going out of business. lol

 

[Poker Orifice]

Last night PokerStars hosted a freeroll related to their EPT Paris stream, in which they gave away 60 tickets to Sunday Million Anniversary. Thats a $215 tournament, so a total pricepool of over $13.000. Unfortunately I could not participate in this due to the rules of the swedish license. But it goes to show, that there are still freerolls and other promotions on PokerStars. Just not the CC freerolls any more.

Pokerstars is great again!!!
After I bust out of the $13k freeroll...
Pokerstars SUCKS!!! They don't give you anything!

PS there's a freeroll on Stars tomorrow. I wonder how many of the complainers will be in it? Maybe Stars rep. should sift through this (& other) thread to see who isn't interested in playing in it.