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Another issue is the big difference in the numbers of winning plays that players from the countries of the former "SOVIET UNION" achieve compared to the others.
Enough to be monstrous. This issue has been much debated in the groups as well.

Distrust arises because we do not see the opponent on the other side through video chat, although current technology is able to offer players an environment with video chat, in poker rooms, the sites do not, why is it, perhaps the answer is the bots .

But I don't believe that the bots if they exist, they are from expert and fradulent players , I believe that if they exist, they are the site itself, it is possible in the virtual environment you are playing against the poker room itself, on the other hand this would not be a totality, for example in a virtual table of poker between 6 to 9 players, part of this could be bots from the room itself, or all of them, it would depend a lot.

Note that at online poker tables many players have very similar names with encrypted codes , and have nothing to do with any characters that inspire the people of that country where the player is called.

To observe this, you must first know the language that speaks that country and then you will see that certain players have names that seem to be more robotic cryptography, and this you can observe in your own language.

Another thing that makes us suspicious of online poker is that no one is so lucky or so unlucky, as it is very common, even more so in cash gamers, for you to lose with A ♦ A ♥ , K ♣ K ♠ , Q ♥ Q ♣ , cards of this level for weak cards, like 9 ♠ 6 ♠ , 10 ♥ 2 ♥ , and even playing the 3 to 5 bets right , or even going all in on pr é flop . Usually when this happens, the player opens his hand with 3 bets , then the flop comes something like 5 ♥ -2 ♣ -10 ♥ , and as you hold a strong hand, you will do everything to make a profit, but the player pays knowing that there are few odds , so in the post flop comes 8 ♦ and later 3 ♥ , and that you lose with your pair of AA.

When this happened to me in 4 situations, I realized that the player who held the most honest hand took time to respond in all situations, maybe the system took time to change the cards that would come so that I could lose and have a loss and he himself won, in which case it wouldn't be a bot , it would be the system itself deceiving to make a profit beyond the game fees we pay to play.

initial phases the player manages to raise a good amount of chips, but the cards change, the player starts to receive bad cards that do not statistically give much probability of winning, and when he receives a playable card he receives UTG, so when he calls to see he doesn't find anything on the flop , and the other players start raising and raising , taking all his chips, the system loves to make you hold UTG, KQ, of any suit, and on the flop the system likes to put there A-8-J, then you pay to see the next card that usually comes anything that doesn't form a type 2 sequence, but the other player asks high, normally this will weaken you in the play, during the rest of the tournament making you go all , or being frank for the bubble phase, but the system does this to you after many hands receiving bad cards, so your patience runs out and you are desperate to make a move for the better improve your placement in tournaments.

Concluding online poker is fraudulent, disagree who wants to disagree, opinion is free, and even for those who disagree remember that here you are a long time freeroll player and never developed anything in poker, you can consider the freeroll of the poker sites as a simple after sales if you deposited and lost everything, as usual.

Very interesting!

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This was revealed accidentally on a poker forum many years ago. One of the poker site's staff revealed to the poker community what they referred to as The Doomswitch but better known now as 'The System'

The System's more common buttons:

Runner Runner

Set over Set

AK vs. AQ (with less than 10bb's on the Bubble)

Ship It!


Run Good << this is the button they hit for you once every few months, just to keep you coming around for more punishment dealt out by... 'The System'!
 
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Now the question is about how problematic it is.
Actually, having a bot in chess in a big problem, as a human can't beat a chess bot. A bot in poker can't beat a player in the long term, as long as you do play well. If the bot is fully GTO, which I don't think is possible due to the processing time, you still won't lose much, as it won't be exploitative.
Plus poker rooms are actually good at banning bots, and bot behaviour. So even if there are bots, I won't say that's an issue for poker, not until we have crazy winrates in bot vs human.
 
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a strange attitude towards players from post-Soviet countries, why did we not please you?
 
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people tend to seek scapegoats for all kinds of stuff in life.
that includes not being able to accept bad beats in poker
this is how such theories are born,....
I didnt see him say anything about losing or having a bad beat
 
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We have already discussed this many times, whether the bot question is true or not, it could only be decided by knowing all the variables, or if everyone played video chat, but then it would turn out again that the random number generator is cheating 🤪. There are always such problems related to cheating in every sport from time to time, and suspicion usually comes from the losing side, which is also interesting.
I'm not a profitable player, but I've stopped pointing at the poker room, because I don't have to play, if I get bored of always losing and the numbers aren't predestined for that, then I stop playing.
You don't have to play, it's pointless if I think the other side is cheating, because then who's the fool :unsure:...
You're right, just ignore it and do something else because someone may or may not be cheating/bot farming. Thats a terrific philosophy
 
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Distrust arises because we do not see the opponent on the other side through video chat, although current technology is able to offer players an environment with video chat, in poker rooms, the sites do not, why is it, perhaps the answer is the bots .

But I don't believe that the bots if they exist, they are from expert and fradulent players , I believe that if they exist, they are the site itself, it is possible in the virtual environment you are playing against the poker room itself, on the other hand this would not be a totality, for example in a virtual table of poker between 6 to 9 players, part of this could be bots from the room itself, or all of them, it would depend a lot.

Note that at online poker tables many players have very similar names with encrypted codes , and have nothing to do with any characters that inspire the people of that country where the player is called.

To observe this, you must first know the language that speaks that country and then you will see that certain players have names that seem to be more robotic cryptography, and this you can observe in your own language.

Another thing that makes us suspicious of online poker is that no one is so lucky or so unlucky, as it is very common, even more so in cash gamers, for you to lose with A ♦ A ♥ , K ♣ K ♠ , Q ♥ Q ♣ , cards of this level for weak cards, like 9 ♠ 6 ♠ , 10 ♥ 2 ♥ , and even playing the 3 to 5 bets right , or even going all in on pr é flop . Usually when this happens, the player opens his hand with 3 bets , then the flop comes something like 5 ♥ -2 ♣ -10 ♥ , and as you hold a strong hand, you will do everything to make a profit, but the player pays knowing that there are few odds , so in the post flop comes 8 ♦ and later 3 ♥ , and that you lose with your pair of AA.

When this happened to me in 4 situations, I realized that the player who held the most honest hand took time to respond in all situations, maybe the system took time to change the cards that would come so that I could lose and have a loss and he himself won, in which case it wouldn't be a bot , it would be the system itself deceiving to make a profit beyond the game fees we pay to play.

initial phases the player manages to raise a good amount of chips, but the cards change, the player starts to receive bad cards that do not statistically give much probability of winning, and when he receives a playable card he receives UTG, so when he calls to see he doesn't find anything on the flop , and the other players start raising and raising , taking all his chips, the system loves to make you hold UTG, KQ, of any suit, and on the flop the system likes to put there A-8-J, then you pay to see the next card that usually comes anything that doesn't form a type 2 sequence, but the other player asks high, normally this will weaken you in the play, during the rest of the tournament making you go all , or being frank for the bubble phase, but the system does this to you after many hands receiving bad cards, so your patience runs out and you are desperate to make a move for the better improve your placement in tournaments.

Concluding online poker is fraudulent, disagree who wants to disagree, opinion is free, and even for those who disagree remember that here you are a long time freeroll player and never developed anything in poker, you can consider the freeroll of the poker sites as a simple after sales if you deposited and lost everything, as usual.
 
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I've read so many times on this topic, which is even boring, you have to play your game, forget it, do not believe that a great poker site would get dirty for so little, ball forward and good luck
 
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Hello, Everyone! By my opinion, in this question all are simply: despite on the different problems of poker sites, you continue to play, or not...
I mean, necessary more think about quality of own game, and less about the problems, which you can't to correct really! Why to waste your
precious time on this!.. Life and so is short!
 
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You're right, just ignore it and do something else because someone may or may not be cheating/bot farming. Thats a terrific philosophy
I understand what you're saying, but do you think you can achieve a clean cheat-free game by blaming the poker rooms and everyone you see?
Then there will be new clean poker rooms, which will become dirty as time progresses (profit worship results in this).
You think that if you fight the external enemy, you're just doing what Don Quixote did with the windmill. As long as you're looking for the enemy outside, you won't find it until you realize that it's just a "windmill" and it's not even worth fighting against it. To realize that it is my choice to show outwards or to change within.
I don't want to get into a long discussion, I'm just saying that I understand what you're saying, and you can look at it this way or that way, it doesn't change anything "outside", the "river keeps flowing", you can drown in it "forever" or you can quit.
I didn't want to be smart, because I don't have much sense either, but I thought I'd write this down. 😜
Good day my friend :)(y) ...
 
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I, like everyone else, agree that the big poker sites already have huge profits, it makes no sense to spoil their reputation
 
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During the hours of a long and offensive streak of bad luck, I also think about such moments, but I just take breaks in the game and everything is forgotten by itself😎
 
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About ten years ago, actually my brother start spotting players who only play satelites but never that tournament if they win satelite. Pretty soon this bot was back another satelite. Not one single tourmament on statics, just satelites?
Why i get dealted aces, or im in situation that is often protable to me play, but always, always get suck out, when one minute ago my sportbets gets right and increase my bankroll? I start somepoint to printscreen those situations but it was too complicated for me. And for years now, i just fold premium pairs or fold profitable situations, and because those happends when my correct bets are about to end, its not so hard for me. its like this automatic thing that i dont notice anymore. Makes me laugh, i know that i get dealted some sweet soon(fold)after seing winnings from betting and otherwise, i get aces and i already now: bets are doing fine :)

I know that there is cheating, its not a question anymore for me, its sophisticated and personalized, its not suck outs, its huge amount of them in very narrow space but different kind of them. Pokersoftware is coded program, and thats give the edge for software workers.

I understand that if you are not too naive, its your proud what stop you to see it, its that cheat behind your loved game where you have put time and effort etc.
 
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Micro/low stakes winning player here and have been since the Moneymaker poker boom. With that said I'm also not that good a player and still manage to win. So idk not really concerned about bots or cheating poker sites cause if they is bots or cheating at micro/low stakes and I'm still able to beat them then they're doing a pretty dam terrible at cheating and the bots must suck completely. I'm honestly not sure how one can fail so bad at cheating....if they're cheating.

FWIW I've played and am/been a winning player on the following sites: UB, pokerstars, Party, 888, Blackchip and GG poker. I've played as high as 50nl.


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I have no doubt about it, if there is evidence of recent cases in which he cheated at a live cash table broadcast, there was a lot of controversy between Robbi Jade Lew and Garret Adelstein after their encounter in the Hustler Casino streaming. Clearly this was reported and there were people involved within the casino. Some mention that he was using some type of device that gave him information about the cards or what he should do. It was practically proven that there were people involved inside the casino, and they created a situation where a person from the casino stole close to 10k of chips from Robbi's stack, perhaps he was just a scapegoat to cover up the problem, but if this type of situation occurs in live streams in large casinos, it is very possible that these things will happen in online casinos. Everyone can have their own opinion, but it's not very trite to think that these types of situations exist, greed and money corrupt people and whoever says otherwise doesn't have enough money. Corruption in the world is disgusting, and it's already difficult to hide it from the world. We see recent cases, people are waking up a little, just to mention a case outside of poker and a little recent, the case of the purchase of referees by the Barcelona Football Club in Spain.
 
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