Never ceases to amaze me (pt 2)

ChuckTs

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Really, the key to picking off a bluff is that you need to either have a hand, or push the bluffer off the pot. This guy decided king high was good enough...

pokerstars GAME #10988657104: TOURNAMENT #55439545, $3+$0 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (100/200) - 2007/07/17 - 14:51:18 (ET)
Table '55439545 20' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: truckerman9 (11360 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (9505 in chips)
Seat 3: oertschi (7125 in chips)
Seat 4: Micha20 (11900 in chips)
Seat 5: Michiel18 (19030 in chips)
Seat 6: KATRAH (10538 in chips)
Seat 7: Pipouu (14050 in chips)
Seat 8: Ronaldvd (10910 in chips)
Seat 9: SaraSmile2 (19265 in chips)
truckerman9: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
oertschi: posts the ante 25
Micha20: posts the ante 25
Michiel18: posts the ante 25
KATRAH: posts the ante 25
Pipouu: posts the ante 25
Ronaldvd: posts the ante 25
SaraSmile2: posts the ante 25
Micha20: posts small blind 100
Michiel18: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qc 9h]
KATRAH: calls 200
Pipouu: folds
Ronaldvd: calls 200
SaraSmile2: folds
truckerman9: folds
ChuckTs: raises 900 to 1100
oertschi: folds
Micha20: folds
Michiel18: folds
KATRAH: folds
Ronaldvd: calls 900
*** FLOP *** [7d 9s 2s]
Ronaldvd: bets 200
ChuckTs: raises 2800 to 3000
Ronaldvd: raises 2800 to 5800
ChuckTs: raises 2580 to 8380 and is all-in
Ronaldvd: calls 2580
*** TURN *** [7d 9s 2s] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [7d 9s 2s 4c] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ronaldvd: shows [Kc 3h] (high card King)
ChuckTs: shows [Qc 9h] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
ChuckTs collected 19685 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19685 | Rake 0
Board [7d 9s 2s 4c Qs]
Seat 1: truckerman9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ChuckTs showed [Qc 9h] and won (19685) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 3: oertschi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Micha20 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Michiel18 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: KATRAH folded before Flop
Seat 7: Pipouu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Ronaldvd showed [Kc 3h] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: SaraSmile2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

'course this is based on very strong reads. I don't regularly get my stack in with TP on a 9-high board...
 
HartAttack3

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hilarious, I love it when people do that, somethin like that happened to me, except I was bluffin too lol.
 
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Afterlife000

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I dont get why people do that? Do they really think they are in the lead with K high? Or do they just suck that bad and really think they will catch a K on the turn or river. I hate it when people do that, i only like it when they do it too me and give me all there chips! =)
 
pezjb

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Wow, good hand. He really must be a big donkey to do that. I get the whole trying to bluff, but I mean once you reraised his reraise he should of got off his hand.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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ahahahahahaha awesome.

look out for villain's new book on the art of minbet-minreraise bluffing on the flop, hitting stores in winter 2007!
 
NineLions

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He wasn't ready to commit his entire stack yet, DM. Saving the last 1/4 of his original stack for, for, for something good, I'm sure. :p


Bad playing by him all the way through, but Chuck, I'm interested in the reads. I'm having difficulty with situational aggression so any of your thought process would be appreciated.


First, he calls a limp, so he's not got much of a hand. Then, he calls your raise by himself, knowing UTG has folded so he doesn't have that to help his pot odds, which tells you what? Just that he's a bad player, but not necessarily anything about his hand, other than he's probably not slowplaying a monster.

Leads 200 into a 2,675 pot, which is not even a probe bet, maybe he thinks it's some kind of blocking bet, telling you he's weak? TT/77/22 makes a stronger bet, flush draw either stronger as well or checks, so you raise him the pot. He hits the raise button, leaving him with 1/4 of his original stack.


Like you say, TP of 9 is not a hand to get your stack in normally, so am I missing any reads within the hand itself? I'm also assuming there are previous reads from earlier hands.
 
ChuckTs

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Basically I had three specific tidbits on his play. His numbers suggested a lot of limping and he raised only when he had strong hands. Very weak hands = steal my limps. Q9 is a little weak, but I had position etc.

Flop bet was many of his weak blocking bets. I actually thought he had something like A7 here.

Minreraise is something he'd actually done a few times in the same tourney and had shown down very weak hands. For whatever reason, minreraises are part of his bluffing strategy :/
 
NineLions

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Minreraise is something he'd actually done a few times in the same tourney and had shown down very weak hands. For whatever reason, minreraises are part of his bluffing strategy :/

Thanks Chuck.


He's not alone, I think. I suspect because of the chip value required just to min reraise a flop raise people think that should be enough to represent strength. Unable or unwilling to think in terms of pot ratios.
 
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lol at the 200tc bet into a 2700 chip pot. I see this soo often. I have no idea what they think it represents.
 
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I love when I see people minraising. From what I have found, the minraise means that they have nothing and it is a weak bluff attempt or they have a very strong hand and want to rope u in. The thing is, once a player does this once and shows down a hand I know what their minraise represents. Players that minraise VERY rarely mix it up from what I have seen and if u see them minraise with the nuts and they do it again, u can be fairly confident they have a hand. If they minraise with nothing and do it again, be confident that they have nothing. This is not fool proof (obviously) but what Ive observed in many many 10 dollar and below SnGs
 
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Hilariously bad. Alas, it wasn't a cash game, but I sure hope the chip dump helped you.

Was playing a PL 5card-draw SNG tonight and this guy decided to stand pat after calling my raise. I obviously did not make my flush (the raise was to steal the blinds obviously), but I still decided to bet a ridiculously small amount compared to what was in the pot (around 5%) for kicks. And you've guessed it, the guy just folded. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. I showed my hand (loling a lot) and he whined saying he had a pair of KK...

Stunning play there champ.
 
Sammyv1

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":Ronaldvd: shows [Kc 3h] (high card King)"

What a freakin Donkey!!!

Oh, I love Chuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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