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I've been out of the online scene since black friday. I have kept up on all the news and stuff through here and decided I cannot deny my jones for poker any longer. I've read the site reviews here and really only have 1 question. What makes it ok for the sportsbook poker room to take credit cards? I thought that most sites could not take u.s. credit cards anymore. Also, what makes sportsbook a better site than the other sites that I see mentioned more in the forums? (sorry, I guess that's 2) Or do I have to send an email to the support staff at sportsbook? (damn, 3) Any info would be appreciated, thanks.
 
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Most online poker sites that are for u.s. players usually take credit cards. I played on sportsbook for a while and they take debit as well. Right now I'm playing on blackChipPOker. I used money gram. Easiest deposit method ever.
 
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Don't put any money on any sites. It's not worth it. You use real money to play on what's most likely going to end up being play money. I could be wrong, but it seems only a matter of time before Merge goes down, the remnants of the Cake network goes down, Bovada goes down, and any other site that's well-known or semi well-known.
 
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I think if it was going to happen we would have seen it already by now. The US market of players is simply too small now for the US Gov't to even generate a headline for snatching up what remaining funds are online. I would avoid Merge though as the MTT prizepools are constantly shrinking and cashouts have been an issue for US players. Bovada and ACR cashouts seem to be consistent.

best of luck
 
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TO answer your questions.

Weird laws in the US have loopholes for Sportsbooks. These loopholes seem to stem from allowing Horse Race Betting online. The laws are very convoluted tho. It may be a para mutual thing, which pools bets from players against other players with the house taking a rake. Sound familiar?

As for the credit card thing. UIGEA sets up a situation where money to gambling sites is the problem. Gambling is loosely defined (these days) as a bet against the house. But the laws are poorly defined.

While Merge has made some very peculiar moves recently, they still offer the best game selection and a pretty comfortable table to play at. No reason to believe they will fold other than thinking 'they ain't what they used to be', which is largely true.

The Cake network isn't isn't called Cake anymore, it is now the Revolution network. Cake itself got out of the US, and transferred our accounts and money to juicy stakes. Same international player pool.

Bovada was bodog when you left. With their Sportsbook, they have maneuvered themselves into a unique position that they believe will be fine with existing US laws.

Sportsbook in particular uses poker from Merge. In fact, the current cashier at Merge (Jazzette) comes from the company that owns the Sportbook website.

These are general answer to general questions. IANAL, but over the years have followed these issues fairly deeply.

Personally, if you treat it all with an entertainment POV, you can only lose another ticket to an evening of entertainment. If you treat it as a biz, well, you need to be up on the twists and turns of the industry as a whole, and the legalities in particular.
 
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I agree you might want to keep a minimal amount of money on ther if you join on of those sites. A $20 or $30 deposit I'm not too worried about my money though and have heard 2 to 3 week cashout on bovada. Worth it just to play again.

There is also the option to just play freerolls on Hogwild poker and you get super quick cashouts if you can cash becase they are 100% legal. The choice is up to you.
 
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very nice job dj, well put...

crow, for me i prefer western union or moneygram for the deposit method. if you deposit say 200usd or more, you more than likely can email them to cover your low fee they charged to send the bones overseas. ask for the prepaid debit card when cashing out.
you stated you quit when the long arm of the law cracked down on black friday. this tells me that you may have had several places to play prior too. if you had ever played at intertops(now intertops.eu) your account is still active. another one i suggest same network is sportsinteraction.com.
good luck and hope to see you at the tables.

Sportsinteraction = )( Crack II
Intertops = )( crack
 
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thanks Dj, you answered most of what I asked. I guess the best poker room is always a matter of some debate. But thanks again.
 
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I, myself was very diappointed with black friday but emotionally and financially but i recently last year started back.... My rules are never make big deposits online, always use a pre-paid credit card, and cash out frequently...
 
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Yes, if you are from the United States, Western Union is going to be the best option. I would play on ACR or Bovada.
 
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Meh, there are good sites at all the Major US Networks (Merge Gaming Network, Revolution, Bodog, Winning Poker Network).
 
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Dont deposit jack crap just play in the offered free rolls if there are any.or steps turnys like merge has. if you must absolutely deposit funds on a site,your gonna see some hefty charges,even higher charges to cash out.i deposited on party poker,as that was my first poker down load ever.then i discovered poker stars,then full tilt.well,party poker dropped us american players like hot diamonds after about a year of my playing there,full tilt goes down in flames and scandalous accusations and poker stars halts real money play but still allows play money action. in my opinion,poker stars will be THE site if the U.S. government gets their heads outta our azzes and makes some semblance of legislation to license and regulate online poker. until then, i wouldnt deposit at all.
 
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