Banned on Party Poker for 6 month!!!

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It doesn't matter that the wording "self exclusion" is used. They blocked him.

That is not, what they are saying. They say, that they "self-excluded" him, which is kind of like saying to your daughter, that you have decided, she dont want to eat ice-cream any more. If they dont want to have someone as a customer any more, for commercial or other reasons, that is fine and fair. But then just call it, what it is.
 
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They have to do that, it's in the law.

Which law? We dont even know, which country OP is situated in, and its not like, there is such a thing as global laws.
 
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That is not, what they are saying. They say, that they "self-excluded" him, which is kind of like saying to your daughter, that you have decided, she dont want to eat ice-cream any more. If they dont want to have someone as a customer any more, for commercial or other reasons, that is fine and fair. But then just call it, what it is.


The first emails and the pop up are auto generated by the system. Should they send out a different message and have a different pop up?...yes.

Again, we don't know what the message that he sent was.
 
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The first emails and the pop up are auto generated by the system. Should they send out a different message and have a different pop up?...yes.


Again, we don't know what the message that he sent was.

It is pretty clear though, that he did not ask for self exclusion. He explicitly write this in the thread. If nothing else this is laughably poor communication. If the message was something like this, it would make a lot more sense:

"Dear XXX

Based on, what you told us, we have decided, that it will best for you to not use our services for the next 6 month. We have therefore put your account on hold. This is in accordance with our anti..... policy, which...… Should you have any further questions....

Best regards, YYY partypoker support"

At least now I know, that the quality of their support is not a reason to open an account on PartyPoker. But I was hardly expecting that anyway :D:D:D
 
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WOW seems very hard

WOW seems very hard, you may of said one wrong sentence in frustration but surly this seems a little OTT, a small cooling off period (day or two) would seem fair.

The only hope you have now is some sought of “please forgive me” email or wait 6 months

Sorry for your experience, a hard lesson learnt.
 
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It is pretty clear though, that he did not ask for self exclusion. He explicitly write this in the thread. If nothing else this is laughably poor communication. If the message was something like this, it would make a lot more sense:

"Dear XXX

Based on, what you told us, we have decided, that it will best for you to not use our services for the next 6 month. We have therefore put your account on hold. This is in accordance with our anti..... policy, which...… Should you have any further questions....

Best regards, YYY PartyPoker support"

At least now I know, that the quality of their support is not a reason to open an account on PartyPoker. But I was hardly expecting that anyway :D:D:D
It's not clear at all what he did or did not say to support. He has conveniently skirted around telling us that exactly. If he made even the slightest inkling that he wanted to stop playing, and expressed that even a little bit to the support team, then yes, they are 100% bound to do just that. And there are no exceptions to that. At all. Especially companies like partypoker that are legislated in EU and UK - they have very specific responsible gaming rules that they must follow or face severe consequences if they do not.

It's kind of like you never say "Bomb" in an airport. You don't even casually mention that you do not want to play or to close your account, or that you might be tilted or have a problem with a poker site's support. And if you can't stop yourself from doing that...well, in my opinion the break is probably a good thing.
 
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Hi everyone, I had one negative incident this morning from the PartyPoker team!..I had $100 I earned by playing freeroll tournaments!
I tryed play BlackJack this morning (one tactic maybe stupid, but I wanted to try), and one negative sequence happened, I couldn't win 9 hands in a row. Of course, because I was frustrated, I quickly lost all my bankroll.

And then my problem started, I was frustrated with that negative sequence and the loss of bankroll, I sent one message support .. You can read answer and the rest in the thread
"PartyPoker Official Thread" https://www.cardschat.com/forum/pok...ficial-thread-274376/index41.html#post5488731 !

I was banned for 6 months because I lost my bankroll! I have never heard of a player being banked out of the room because he did not adhere to bankroll management!! They no longer allow me to play freerolls, a CardChat tournament, or make a deposit!! What do you think about this?
I have never encounter something like this
It is a lesson for me also
But like the others said, becareful how you react to Partypoker, as the ban can escalate
Maybe you can try the other poker rooms for now
 
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Sorry but I can't answer everyone's on questions..The point is that I didn't requested for self-exclusion..As far as I understand their suppor,t player has to apply for self-exclusion! I didn't do it!

I only wrote about my bad experience playing blackjack, and that I lost my bankrolls and I no longer want to play BlackJack on their site because of that.

Does that mean they ban all players who do not adhere to bankroll management?..Do they really think to ban all players who not play for fun?..What are we talking about, I can guarantee that more than half the players are gamblers, not play for fun ..Do they have to ban them all ?

The word gambling itself tells us everything, their conditions are a little contradictory!..If they want players to play for fun, why they put the choice to bet for big money($20 $40 $100 and more)?
 
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Also each time they gave me a different reason why they did it, ridiculously!!!

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Does that mean they ban all players who do not adhere to bankroll management?..Do they really think to ban all players who not play for fun?..What are we talking about, I can guarantee that more than half the players are gamblers, not play for fun ..Do they have to ban them all ?

I'm sure there are lots of people who lost their entire bankroll and did not get blocked.


It seems that what you wrote to them is the cause of you being blocked from playing. You posted everything else, why not post the original message?

The first image/reason is a standard email that they sent out to everyone. The other ones say that what you wrote to them is the real issue.
 
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It's not clear at all what he did or did not say to support. He has conveniently skirted around telling us that exactly. If he made even the slightest inkling that he wanted to stop playing, and expressed that even a little bit to the support team, then yes, they are 100% bound to do just that. And there are no exceptions to that. At all. Especially companies like partypoker that are legislated in EU and UK - they have very specific responsible gaming rules that they must follow or face severe consequences if they do not.


It's kind of like you never say "Bomb" in an airport. You don't even casually mention that you do not want to play or to close your account, or that you might be tilted or have a problem with a poker site's support. And if you can't stop yourself from doing that...well, in my opinion the break is probably a good thing.

That is all very true. If you feel frustrated after losing, then support is not the place to went that frustration. There is a sub forum here for instance, where you can do just that. Support is not there to listen to vents, they are there to take actions. And the only action, they can take in this case, is to close your account. So if that is not, what you want, then dont waste the time of support staff.

As for weather the decision made by PartyPoker was reasonable, we will never know, because as you say, OP has not shared the email, he send to them. It might have been a reasonable decision, but the communication was laughably poor. It took them four attempts, before they finally wrote something, which made sense and related to the situation:

"We have taken the decision to exclude your account based on the communication you`ve had with us.

Your account status will remain as closed based on a company decision, which we have the right to take as per our terms and conditions."

As for the rules, a company like PartyPoker has to follow in various countries, I dont know their exact wording. It seem reasonable, that they are obliged to take action, if someone express concerns about their gambling. But it also seem reasonable, that they are allowed to engage in some communication and verify, what the customer wants, before they close his account. It hardly breaks any rules to reply something like this:

"Dear XXX

I understand, that you had a bad experience using our services. Please let me inform you, that you can set deposit limits to regulate the amount of money, you are able to deposit with us per week or per month. You can also take a cool down period or request self exclusion for a period of 6 month. Please let me know, if you would like me to initiate a cool down period, or if you would like to self exclude from our services."

So yes OP has fault in this, and cooling down is probably not a bad idea for him. But I have to maintain, that PartyPoker also handled this extremely poorly. If PartyPoker had handled this professionally, I can not imagine, that a thread like this would have happened.

If someone from PartyPoker is reading this, they should learn from it and do things better the next time. And players should also learn to not contact support in a situation like this, unless they actually want their account to be closed.
 
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I only wrote about my bad experience playing BlackJack, and that I lost my bankrolls and I no longer want to play BlackJack on their site because of that.

They can not close your access to one particular game like BlackJack. Its all or nothing, so when you write something like this, its easy to see, why it is understood as a wish to self exclude. Just learn from it and move on. There are other sites, where you can play poker and casino games.
 
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You made mistake why you contact support after loosing, what you think they can do, to give you money back. Even you right and played rigged Blackjack which a not even live, they will protect its service and show that you have problem.
 
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This is that my message that I sent after the loss ..Maybe I was overdo it, but I felt bad and wanted to write it to them..I was a little frustrated by the losing streak, but I didn't just requested for the exclusion, as they say ..
And my words that I'll never playing in their room again, was about BlackJack, not poker and other casino games!

They could have understood me a little too, not to lie that I requested self excludion and other, and wrote that :(

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You are still not sharing the entire line of communication, so its impossible for anyone to understand, what really went down. As many have said already, just let this go and move on.
 
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You are still not sharing the entire line of communication, so its impossible for anyone to understand, what really went down. As many have said already, just let this go and move on.
You can see other messages in the PartyPoker Official Thread, you have the link in the my first post!
 
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Lesson learned is not to contact support saying you don't want to play there anymore.
 
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You can see other messages in the PartyPoker Official Thread, you have the link in the my first post!

I can see the full content of the first message, they send you, and it basically say, that they decided to "self-exclude" you. Which is then of course not self-exclusion but just exclusion. I can still not see, what you wrote to them though. If you told them, you have major financial problems in general, it seem like a responsible decision to exclude you. If you just told them, you lost your 100$, it might have been a bit of a overreaction.
 
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Take the 6 month break Joker, you are fighting a losing war, it is done now and they will not reverse their decision, but if you keep pestering them like someone with a problem, they may ban you forever.

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Even you right and played rigged Blackjack which a not even live, they will protect its service and show that you have problem.

If you contact support with a claim, that their games might be rigged, you can hardly blame them for deciding to end the customer relationship. If you go up to the owner of a bar and tell him, you think his draft beer is diluted by water, you might also be asked to not come back.
 
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I have same situation on pokerstars and they want banned me on all games included poker, but after two days of writing we make deal and I am still banned from Casino games .For me it is good deal. Why you not try to do that ?
 
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Im wondering why you have contacted support after losing your money ? What is the reason ? I'm sure that you have been out of your mind and have some bad and unsuitable conversation with them. I have lost my bankroll few times and I haven't had problem ever, I'm not contacting anyone what that will bring to me, advise ? I just put new cash and continue. 6 months is serious time out, if you continue to be rude next time it will be life ban. Play at other room not to worry so much.
 
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You made the basic mistake of playing blackjack and forgetting about the hard wins in freerolls. A series of events led to further bad results. In my opinion, it is necessary to remember what price the bankroll was built at and how much time it took. Your fate is now in the hands of PartyPoker.
 
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