tenbob
Legend
Silver Level
I think i have posted graphs of my play on euro sites.
FS, UK players/Euro player that play on omg really very similar deals. Its a dealage for a little parity.
Guys its YOUR goverment that fcuked you up (Sticks you to a very firm market with little incentives), sorry but its true.
FS, UK players/Euro player that play on omg really very similar deals. Its a dealage for a little parity.
Guys its YOUR goverment that fcuked you up (Sticks you to a very firm market with little incentives), sorry but its true.
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switch0723
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Since my post above was deleted i assume by mistake ill just repeat for the sake of it being relevant
This deal is sick good for me since it gets me supernova something like 2-3 months earlier than what i would have got it, and propels me up a milestone bonus so ship the free monies
This deal is sick good for me since it gets me supernova something like 2-3 months earlier than what i would have got it, and propels me up a milestone bonus so ship the free monies
KerouacsDog
Legend
Silver Level
this will probably be my saddest post ever at CC, but here goes:Feed a brother some info on a good plan to use while being restricted to say 4 tables @ $25NL and/or $50NL for the rest of the month of May.
Then also advise that brother on what he might do during June and onwards. Keep in mind this brother isn't "up" on how these milestones etc work. Cheers.
I'm worse off than you, CB!, I currently have $33 at PS, and monies at other sites, and my multi-tabling is limited to 4 on a good day(don't laugh), Im crap at cash tables(I dont play them, never have really, not seriously anyway), but I have a TAG style which serves me well at MTT's and SNG's.
My question is, would this promotion mean anything to me 4-tabling 2NL for say, 2 hours a day in the week, and maybe 6 hours saturday/sunday/monday.
As I've never really played the cash tables at PS I know nothing about fpps/vpps/bonuses/stars/etc so hopefully someone can help me out?
I know I have bronze star there, but doesn't everyone at least???
Thanks in advance.........and thanks for the heads-up DM
Dorkus Malorkus
HELLO INTERNET
Silver Level
nah you're not gonna get enough fpps for it to be at all meaningful.
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switch0723
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
you would be better off playing sng's since you get more vpp's there than at 2nl
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Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
I personally think you need to be playing at least $25NL - and have the bankroll to support that to benefit.
If it included the US I could benefit a little by moving up to silver but it would mean making a concerted effort to play $25NL most days, 2-4 tables at a time. I am making this comment for casual cash players like myself.
To get any further than that would be a drastic change for me in how often I play cash - and I would most likely have to play $50NL. I am rolled for that but would lose more trying to cram it all in than I could possibly gain from the promotion lol.
If it included the US I could benefit a little by moving up to silver but it would mean making a concerted effort to play $25NL most days, 2-4 tables at a time. I am making this comment for casual cash players like myself.
To get any further than that would be a drastic change for me in how often I play cash - and I would most likely have to play $50NL. I am rolled for that but would lose more trying to cram it all in than I could possibly gain from the promotion lol.
KerouacsDog
Legend
Silver Level
Well, I guess I could transfer my FT BR to PS and play 10NL to start with, Im not looking for supernova, lol, but a quick move up to sliver/gold would benefit me, right?
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
Yea - that is what I was talking about just to get to silver from bronze. Gold would be even tougher. You just don't earn that many VPP's at the lower levels.
Even when I was playing the most $25NL I have ever played a couple of months ago I only earned less than 300 VPP's in a month.
Dorkus Malorkus
HELLO INTERNET
Silver Level
yeah but not very much.
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Pokertron3000
Available for parties
Silver Level
Ok heres what I have planned for the next few weeks to try and get some vpps-
Play a mix of 1 dollar and some 3 dollar sngs untill I make a small profit,
When I get a certain amount play a step 1 sng,
Try to get to step 4,
If I can make some step 4 tickets by the middle of the month try to keep playing step system to try and get platinum in the next few months which means I may get a chance to get the instant bonuses and a few sunday million tickets.
So far tried step 1 twice one fail and one up too the step 4 and have around 95 vpps.
Play a mix of 1 dollar and some 3 dollar sngs untill I make a small profit,
When I get a certain amount play a step 1 sng,
Try to get to step 4,
If I can make some step 4 tickets by the middle of the month try to keep playing step system to try and get platinum in the next few months which means I may get a chance to get the instant bonuses and a few sunday million tickets.
So far tried step 1 twice one fail and one up too the step 4 and have around 95 vpps.
KerouacsDog
Legend
Silver Level
thats good enough for me, last silver I got was the 25m swimming at school all those years ago!
Jagsti
I'm sweet enough!
Silver Level
OK, here's some ball park figures for NL cash games, these are for fr, 6max in brackets:
50nl = ~200vpps/1k hands (225vpps/1k)
100nl = ~ 320vpps/1k hands (350vpps/1k)
200nl = 450vpps/1k hands (520vpps/1k)
This will vary according to how many tables your playing/time of day/looseness of tables etc etc.
50nl = ~200vpps/1k hands (225vpps/1k)
100nl = ~ 320vpps/1k hands (350vpps/1k)
200nl = 450vpps/1k hands (520vpps/1k)
This will vary according to how many tables your playing/time of day/looseness of tables etc etc.
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turby
Rock Star
Silver Level
Best I can go for is Silver I guess. Gold might be a possibility.. Just need another 375 from my 125 this month so far!
Any of those freerolls (bronzestar/silver..etc) with FPPs any good? Field of 3-4k for a 1k prizepool? A bridge too far by the looks of it?
And I don't understand the STEPs tourney thingy.. anyone care to explain?
Any of those freerolls (bronzestar/silver..etc) with FPPs any good? Field of 3-4k for a 1k prizepool? A bridge too far by the looks of it?
And I don't understand the STEPs tourney thingy.. anyone care to explain?
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Pokertron3000
Available for parties
Silver Level
Well stars do steps go to sit and gos>satelitte>steps, basically is a satelitte system of 9 man sngs and step 4 can be used for a £215 pound tourney. Stars use this system to win buy ins to Epts Lapts and wsop and more but they are the highest steps. Is quite steep at 7.50 buy in for step 1 but top 2 places get you to next step and places below that offer retries to earlier steps. I am gonna play some this month to try make the 1200 vpps for platinum so bye bye bankroll
Crystal Blue
Legend
Silver Level
After looking into it much more and also reading advice from this thread, I have decided against taking up this offer. While it will be a very good deal for some, it won't have a big impact for many others and I fall into the "many others" category.
I think it will suit the regular grinder who is already gold or platinum level and usually plays 20K+ hands per month every month. But if you are bronze and a casual player and/or someone who doesn't play the cash tables very often it would involve upping your rate of hands played quite considerably.
For the bronze casual player you would basically have to turn into a regular grinder at the cash tables playing say at least 4 tables at a time at $25NL and upwards for a minimum of 4-5 hours a day. You would also have to do this for months rather than weeks to achieve the milestones they offer. Basically, you would need to turn into a reg grinder overnight for a sustained amount of time to reap the big rewards. You have to ask yourself could your bankroll take it really.
On the other hand it is a great deal for those who are either already gold/platinum or are on course to those levels. Supanova should be gained relatively easily if you are already in that position and a few milestones would be within your grasp. It is also a faster track to the rewards for those already aiming for those goals anyway, saving them several months of extra grinding.
There is nothing stopping bronze/silver players making a few hundred bucks over the course of a few months but you have to ask yourself if it is worth your time and risk.
The reaction to this promo has caused quite a stir among non UK players at pokerstars because many feel that by offering this promotion to a particular location/country everybody else is being discriminated against etc. Many feel that giving a chosen group the chance to fast track their way to Supanova status and the rewards that go with it is both unfair in the sense that some don't need to work as hard as others to achieve that level, and that it de-values the whole VIP system at the same time.
Many have stated ( in other forums ) that Pokerstars have just handed UK resident players a $2K+ bonus for free while they get nothing. They say it is a slap in the face to them for their loyalty to Pokerstars over the years etc.
They may well be right to feel that way and say the things they say and I can certainly understand their reaction and frustrations on the matter. Hopefully they will restrict their frustrations to letting Pokerstars know how they feel and not let it spill over to being unreasonable to UK players as a result of the promo.
Some of the stuff I have read elsewhere is quite shocking and disappointing tbh but the one thing I have noticed about Cardschat is that nobody has bitched about it and for that I take my hat off to you. Also, while I know it won't change anything, here are a few points I'd like to make that might help cushion the blow so to speak.
1. Unless you are already aiming for Supernova status and/or are gold or platinum at this point in time, this promotion is very difficult to fulfill.
2. The majority of UK players won't get near what is being offered unless they are already regular grinders who have the time and bankroll to go for it.
3. A pokerstars rep at another forum claims that this is a "market testing" project and once they gather up all the information they need as a result of this particular promo, they will decide if it's feasible to open it up to other countries. ( I have my own thoughts on whether this is blowing smoke or not but that's what the guy more or less said )
4. Residents of the UK are fortunate enough to pick and choose where they want to play online poker and Pokerstars are well aware of that. They can see an oppotunity to tap into that market and try and attract those players to their site because they know there are plenty of UK players around that don't have to use Pokerstars at all, and that those same players are receiving decent rake-back elsewhere already.
( This seems more obvious than the "test" Pokerstars claim they are running. Saying that, I do think it is a test for other Euro countries getting it in the future )
I think it will suit the regular grinder who is already gold or platinum level and usually plays 20K+ hands per month every month. But if you are bronze and a casual player and/or someone who doesn't play the cash tables very often it would involve upping your rate of hands played quite considerably.
For the bronze casual player you would basically have to turn into a regular grinder at the cash tables playing say at least 4 tables at a time at $25NL and upwards for a minimum of 4-5 hours a day. You would also have to do this for months rather than weeks to achieve the milestones they offer. Basically, you would need to turn into a reg grinder overnight for a sustained amount of time to reap the big rewards. You have to ask yourself could your bankroll take it really.
On the other hand it is a great deal for those who are either already gold/platinum or are on course to those levels. Supanova should be gained relatively easily if you are already in that position and a few milestones would be within your grasp. It is also a faster track to the rewards for those already aiming for those goals anyway, saving them several months of extra grinding.
There is nothing stopping bronze/silver players making a few hundred bucks over the course of a few months but you have to ask yourself if it is worth your time and risk.
The reaction to this promo has caused quite a stir among non UK players at pokerstars because many feel that by offering this promotion to a particular location/country everybody else is being discriminated against etc. Many feel that giving a chosen group the chance to fast track their way to Supanova status and the rewards that go with it is both unfair in the sense that some don't need to work as hard as others to achieve that level, and that it de-values the whole VIP system at the same time.
Many have stated ( in other forums ) that Pokerstars have just handed UK resident players a $2K+ bonus for free while they get nothing. They say it is a slap in the face to them for their loyalty to Pokerstars over the years etc.
They may well be right to feel that way and say the things they say and I can certainly understand their reaction and frustrations on the matter. Hopefully they will restrict their frustrations to letting Pokerstars know how they feel and not let it spill over to being unreasonable to UK players as a result of the promo.
Some of the stuff I have read elsewhere is quite shocking and disappointing tbh but the one thing I have noticed about Cardschat is that nobody has bitched about it and for that I take my hat off to you. Also, while I know it won't change anything, here are a few points I'd like to make that might help cushion the blow so to speak.
1. Unless you are already aiming for Supernova status and/or are gold or platinum at this point in time, this promotion is very difficult to fulfill.
2. The majority of UK players won't get near what is being offered unless they are already regular grinders who have the time and bankroll to go for it.
3. A pokerstars rep at another forum claims that this is a "market testing" project and once they gather up all the information they need as a result of this particular promo, they will decide if it's feasible to open it up to other countries. ( I have my own thoughts on whether this is blowing smoke or not but that's what the guy more or less said )
4. Residents of the UK are fortunate enough to pick and choose where they want to play online poker and Pokerstars are well aware of that. They can see an oppotunity to tap into that market and try and attract those players to their site because they know there are plenty of UK players around that don't have to use Pokerstars at all, and that those same players are receiving decent rake-back elsewhere already.
( This seems more obvious than the "test" Pokerstars claim they are running. Saying that, I do think it is a test for other Euro countries getting it in the future )
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turby
Rock Star
Silver Level
I've been playing Badugi (a variant) limit .5/1 and I've been just raking in the VPPs! I've played less than 1 hour with 2 tables open and I raked in 50 pts? (lost a bit of cash tho.. D'oh!)
But I'm really eye-ing the 1.25k mark to get the extra 60k pts and then I can swap the 50k pts for.. 600+ USD with my Platinum Star?
I think it's really do-able... I'm on 664 pts and it's not the middle of the month yet! I've got a week off college as well..!
From what i've observed, the rake on limit games seem quite high. (hence, high VPP) Anyone else seem to notice this?
Has anyone also redeemed books from PS.. is that a good wat to spend your VPP? And if you have, how long does it take (delivery charge included?)?
ABOUT... promoting to UK players... it is a really good deal. I think other sites are reacting to this.. I have been offered bonusses by IPN network providers (Titan & Mansion).. partypoker also offered me a bonus recently of 180 pounds...
However, PS deal is the best if I can manage to pull off the remaining 600 pts and redeem the VPP cash bonus.
To sum up, PS's promotion is really causing a knock-on effect on the market here in the UK. Good news for us, I guess.
But I'm really eye-ing the 1.25k mark to get the extra 60k pts and then I can swap the 50k pts for.. 600+ USD with my Platinum Star?
I think it's really do-able... I'm on 664 pts and it's not the middle of the month yet! I've got a week off college as well..!
From what i've observed, the rake on limit games seem quite high. (hence, high VPP) Anyone else seem to notice this?
Has anyone also redeemed books from PS.. is that a good wat to spend your VPP? And if you have, how long does it take (delivery charge included?)?
ABOUT... promoting to UK players... it is a really good deal. I think other sites are reacting to this.. I have been offered bonusses by IPN network providers (Titan & Mansion).. partypoker also offered me a bonus recently of 180 pounds...
However, PS deal is the best if I can manage to pull off the remaining 600 pts and redeem the VPP cash bonus.
To sum up, PS's promotion is really causing a knock-on effect on the market here in the UK. Good news for us, I guess.
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