allin/no allin protection at PS

shinedown.45

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There are players out there like myself who didn't understand this, just thought I would post this from pokerstars FAQ page.

Q. What happens if I am disconnected in the middle of a hand?

A. It occasionally occurs that due to reasons beyond our players' control, they are unable to act on their poker hand in time. At PokerStars, if a player has invested money in a hand and becomes disconnected, he or she will be placed "all-in". A player who is placed "all-in" is treated as though he or she does not have any chips remaining to carry out the hand. The player is still eligible for the portion of the pot to which the player would normally be entitled. All further betting takes place in a side pot, to be contested by the remaining active players.

A player is allotted 25 seconds to act in fixed limit poker games and 35 seconds in pot limit and no limit poker games. A warning message is displayed in the chat box when there are 15 seconds left to act. If there was a disconnect and a player returned before the timeout, he or she receives at least 10 seconds to act.

If a player failed to act within the allotted time while being connected, the hand is folded by the system.

Some tables are labeled "No All In". These are special tables that do not allow players to be considered all In if they log off or are disconnected during a hand. "No all in" tables are labeled in parenthesis after the name of the table in your game lobby (example: Sirius III [no all in]).

If you are sitting at a no all in table and you are disconnected or log off for any reason you will automatically check when it is your turn. If someone else bets while you are disconnected your hand will be folded.
 
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"How Players Abuse Disconnect Protection




So on your favorite online poker site, you have probably brought up the real money No Limit Hold’em Tables and noticed that some of them will say “No Disconnect Protection” and “Disconnect Protection.” The question is, what is Disconnect Protection, and how do some players abuse it?
Basically, Disconnect Protection serves to protect people who lose their connections in the middle of a hand. Let’s say that you are involved in a big pot in $5/$10 No Limit Hold’em. It is a heads up pot between you and another person, and after the turn card is dealt, there is $500 in the pot. The river comes, giving you the nut flush, but disaster strikes! Your internet connection goes out just as your opponent is pushing the rest of his chips into the pot! What happens now?
Well with Disconnect Protection, here is what happens. Your opponents river bet is returned to him, and the hand is played out, with no more money going into the pot. So, in this case, with Disconnect Protection, you would win the hand and the $500 pot, and your opponent would have his river bet returned to him.
Without Disconnect Protection? You time out, and your opponent wins the hand without you showing your cards.
Now the question is: how can Disconnect Protection be abused?
Let’s say that you are involved in a big pot. You hold AK of diamonds, and the board is 7 10 9 Q, with three diamonds, giving you the nut flush. The way your opponent is playing his hand, you are pretty sure he has a set, probably QQ. The river comes a Q, pretty much the card you wanted to see the least. Now you are losing the hand to any Q, or any pair of 7’s, 10’s or 9’s. Your opponent immediately goes all in for the rest of his stack. Now how does one abuse this situation?
Let’s say that you THINK your hand is still good, but you don’t want to call down a 3k bet. If your table had disconnect protection in this situation, you could purposefully disconnect, in order for the hand to play out without having to call down that HUGE bet. If he’s bluffing, you will win the pot. If he indeed has a Full House, the hand will play out with minimal damage to your stack.
Obviously this is unethical, and if you do this, you will be reported to the poker room. This is how people abuse Disconnect Protection; watch out for it"

This is from someones blog, probably breaching some copyright laws or summit here by posting this but has anyone noticed this happening? I saw it happening alot once against me and i realise the need for DP but i think at the time the person was using it illegally. I also seen it happen on sunday in a big hand for the limits we were playing.
Would you report people for this?
 
Jack Daniels

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Would you report people for this?
If I was truly able to see a pattern of big pots and disconnects on only one particular player, then yes, I'd consider reporting it. The pokersites have extremely advance fraud detection and analysis software. Finding an obvious pattern is a piece of cake for them once a situation is brought to their attention. Finding something like this on their own isn't quite as easy. But if it is blatant, then sure. If you're wrong, nothing will happen. If it is obviously identifiable, something will happen. And don't be mislead about the disconnect being hidden, they can tell with a fairly high accuracy whether particular disconnects were server based, connection related, or user initiated.

And, from PS's FAQs...4.5 FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR. In the event that PokerStars deems that a User has engaged in fraudulent, unlawful, dishonest or improper activity while using the Software or playing the Games, including without limitation, engaging in any of the activities set forth above or any other game manipulation, or the making of any fraudulent payment, including without limitation, use of a stolen credit card or fraudulent chargeback or money laundering, PokerStars shall be entitled to take such action as it sees fit, including immediately blocking access to the Games to such User, terminating such User's account with PokerStars, seizing all monies held in the relevant PokerStars "real money account", disclosing such information (including the identity of the User) to banks, credit card companies and/or any person or entity that has the legal right to such information, and/or taking legal action against such User.
 
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