Why is marijuana legal in WA State, while online poker remains a felony? Hypocrisy?

[MasterOfDisaster]

lol at 2 many pot heads comment , prolly even more alcoholics and that isnt a problem? Legalizing is best thing what you can do , cause numerous reasons.

You can regulate it, criminals aren't making money with it anymore and police can start doing what they have to do with all time left. Also no offenders for own use anymore so judges have more time , less prisoners..

The legal sell creates jobs, quality of weed will be better.

Also if things are really problematic in a legal, non criminal envorinment , you seek and find help much easier.

Also keeping it illegal makes step to worse drugs smaller, cause dealers often can get anything on streets opposed to legal sell places where you can buy weed only.

 

[PokerFunKid]

imo, if you make it legit, you will only get saver and less people who smoke weed. You can't compare it with poker. But... i agree poker should be legit any where. But maybe, so should weed. And no, i don't smoke weed. ;p

 

[MasterOfDisaster]

imo, if you make it legit, you will only get saver and less people who smoke weed. You can't compare it with poker. But... i agree poker should be legit any where. But maybe, so should weed. And no, i don't smoke weed. ;p

Yeah agree both should be legal! More posts as me on CC wow!

 

[curtinsea]

This thread is not really about whether weed should be legal. Rather, I was trying to show that political action taken by the people can overcome the obstinance of government.

Poker players could take a lesson from pro-weed advocates, and should never feel defeated. Change comes slowly, but only through perseverance will we find success.

 

[itsmebobd]

First off, great post my man. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Here are the 2 reasons I see as why they have these backwards laws :

1.) Its all about money, if it doesnt make (government) money, they have no real use for it. At least with marijuana they are getting a 35% tax for recreational users. Medicinal are taxed too, but at a lower rate

2.) Our country loves to make new laws, the government and the "sheeple" think its feasible to try to prevent anything bad from ever happening. Bad crap happens, and since the senators and congress make big $, they know that as long as they are making laws to appease the sheeple, they get re-elected, and get a huge amount of $ working that "JOB" if you want to call it that

3.) Horrible laws, and any reason to lock someone up and get the tax $ for them. I have spent time in jail, and including everything, it costs the taxpayer $ $27,500 every year according to them. In jail the foods terrible, they had minimal staff, and it prob costs them $11/day including their food, employees, electric and water. Every time they send someone to the DOC (Department of corrections) they get a nice big fat check. They also are privatized prisons, and judges and the rich fat cats know they have a contract to keep the prison at 90% capacity.

4.) Ignorance, Marijuana has never in the history of man killed someone, which is more than you can say about a poker game (wild bill hi****). Poker was ruled as a game of skill by a judge not that long ago. He determined this, and that it wasnt a luck game for certain people. Think about it man, why the heck would they let us have online poker, when they can make us wait, and when we are at our boiling point, they know we will sign anything to make it legal

5.) Hard for them to tax earnings and losses. They love to have their business in everything. Plus, im pretty sure u can deduct gambling debt on ur taxes, so those people deduct their losses, and the winners must pay tax on their winnings. This means this has been taxed twice, once after your paycheck, and then again when the winner makes $, and will have to pay somewhere in the ballpark of 15-35%.

 

[or3o1990]

Have you ever been around a pot head if you don't smoke? They're all like, "C'mon man, hit it dude, just one time, don't be lame, etc.." Potheads are the biggest pier pressure appliers of all time. Maybe poker players could take a page from their book. Just bother everyone incessantly about how poker is awesome and maybe it'll become legal!

However, playing poker while high should definitely be a crime. I'd be like, "What are the blinds again?" And, "Oh, I didn't know it was on me. How many chips do you have? Not the black ones, I was asking about your dorritos man!" lol, No indica's anyways..

Anybody have good experience playing while high?

 

[badalhoco345]

Well, there are things that we can't explain.

It's like in the majority of the countryes: alcohol is legal and there are guys who had died for drink in some cases just one beer and other cases for alcoholic coma. But, sorry if I'm wrong, I guess that nobody has died in one day because he smokes marijuana but it's ilegal.

Relatively about the poker: I think that many people wants to extinguish the game. Because it's a game were, with lucky, we can enrich and dedicate our live to poker as a professional while those guys who does,t understand the game have to work to win some Money. And in some cases they work and don't receive.

The world is full of thieves.

 

[badalhoco345]

Have you ever been around a pot head if you don't smoke? They're all like, "C'mon man, hit it dude, just one time, don't be lame, etc.." Potheads are the biggest pier pressure appliers of all time. Maybe poker players could take a page from their book. Just bother everyone incessantly about how poker is awesome and maybe it'll become legal!

However, playing poker while high should definitely be a crime. I'd be like, "What are the blinds again?" And, "Oh, I didn't know it was on me. How many chips do you have? Not the black ones, I was asking about your dorritos man!" lol, No indica's anyways..

Anybody have good experience playing while high?

In the beggining I play poker a few times while I was high. I hope this does not influence anyone but I have more patiente when I was high and got more focus. I also never tilt when I was high.

But nowadays I play sober and the best results where achieved with this state of mind.

 

[Aosmosis]

PA here we have it pretty draconian as well, we even have casinos.

But yet I believe I can remain more positive of regulated online poker then those in the NW.

(now that AC is falling apart, largely because of PA and MD casinos)

 

[S3mper]

In the beggining I play poker a few times while I was high. I hope this does not influence anyone but I have more patiente when I was high and got more focus. I also never tilt when I was high.

But nowadays I play sober and the best results where achieved with this state of mind.

lol I was at my cousins a couple years ago and we would always play poker and ofc he and his friends would always take smoke breaks.. (They weren't cigs breaks)

I don't smoke at all so I would just wait patiently as they all smoked then when they came back they were like "God I'm so much better at poker when I'm high"

I couldn't help but notice that I was having a much better winrate when they were high... I guess I just get luckier when I'm sober while everyone is high... =o

So every once in awhile I'd be like Hmmm think its time for you guys to take another smoke break to increase my win rate lol

 

[iiHunt]

Its our Government doing its usual thing! No shock here because they figured out a way to make money of Pot and still havent found a way to make money off of online poker. Especially now that 99.9% of the poker sites out there are based outside the U.S. They could have saved it before it go to corrupt, but just like everything else they waited to long.

 

[Makwa]

Much as there may be an overlap, poker and pot are two different kettles of fish, legally and otherwise...so the OP question makes little sense to me...

 

[goodhandluke]

Its all about whose making the money imo

legality is all about profiting off something

 

[timfbmx]

USA land of the free my ass

 

[or3o1990]

Its all about whose making the money imo

legality is all about profiting off something

So true. It's all about putting up red tape so the right people are the ones making the money.

I can't grow a pot plant and you can't sell a loose cigarette. Meanwhile there's companies selling millions of opiods, tobacco products and alcohol legally..

Many laws create criminals and monoplolies.

 

[rancidcarp]

Pot makes them a hell of a lot more money than poker.

 

[or3o1990]

Pot makes them a hell of a lot more money than poker.

After the US government figures out a way to make as much stealing from poker pros and site operators, bam! It will become 100% legal.

 

[fodje]

lt's simple, because this world has a lot of unfairness and corrupt officials.

 

[curtinsea]

I suggest folks re-read the OP while setting aside the cynicism. The marijuana legalization came about by activism by the people, not by a corrupt or money grubbing government. The State Legislature simply ignored the measure, which let it go to the voters. It was the people who legalized marijuana in WA (same in CO), not the government.

The attitudes expressed by many of the comments ITT are precisely the largest obstacle facing the issue of internet poker . . . the people must get involved and speak up.

You can't complain about a government that doesn't listen to the people if you are one of the people not speaking up to your government.

People give their power away by believing they don't have any.

 

[BiliousBetil]

I suggest folks re-read the OP while setting aside the cynicism. The marijuana legalization came about by activism by the people, not by a corrupt or money grubbing government. The State Legislature simply ignored the measure, which let it go to the voters. It was the people who legalized marijuana in WA (same in CO), not the government.

The attitudes expressed by many of the comments ITT are precisely the largest obstacle facing the issue of internet poker . . . the people must get involved and speak up.

You can't complain about a government that doesn't listen to the people if you are one of the people not speaking up to your government.

People give their power away by believing they don't have any.

^^^Exactly. :icon_salu

 

[Landopope]

Have you ever been around a pot head if you don't smoke? They're all like, "C'mon man, hit it dude, just one time, don't be lame, etc.." Potheads are the biggest pier pressure appliers of all time. Maybe poker players could take a page from their book. Just bother everyone incessantly about how poker is awesome and maybe it'll become legal!

However, playing poker while high should definitely be a crime. I'd be like, "What are the blinds again?" And, "Oh, I didn't know it was on me. How many chips do you have? Not the black ones, I was asking about your dorritos man!" lol, No indica's anyways..

Anybody have good experience playing while high?

I do depending on the day. Not sure which one I have been more profitable but if I had to take a guess I am assuming its when I am not high.

Except today I am not and running like shat soooooo

 

[or3o1990]

I do depending on the day. Not sure which one I have been more profitable but if I had to take a guess I am assuming its when I am not high.

Except today I am not and running like shat soooooo

I'm sure you're better sober lol. When I smoked more regularly I would smoke and play online sometimes. I would always forget what was happening on which table tho and I don't smoke or drink at all when I play online anymore.

 

[or3o1990]

I suggest folks re-read the OP while setting aside the cynicism. The marijuana legalization came about by activism by the people, not by a corrupt or money grubbing government. The State Legislature simply ignored the measure, which let it go to the voters. It was the people who legalized marijuana in WA (same in CO), not the government.

The attitudes expressed by many of the comments ITT are precisely the largest obstacle facing the issue of internet poker . . . the people must get involved and speak up.

You can't complain about a government that doesn't listen to the people if you are one of the people not speaking up to your government.

People give their power away by believing they don't have any.

You're right. I can be a bit cynical sometimes. I'm one of those people who doesn't think I have any power as a voter or citizen..

but even in the case of marijuana I'd argue I'm more realistic than cynical. Given that the feds can still bust you at will pot isn't totally legal. Even after all of that activism the glass is still half empty or full depending on how you look at it.

Nothing gets done in this country unless someone is making a few bucks to get it done. Just my opinion, I'm obviously not a political scientist lol.

 

[motorcity1957]

i use it, i grow it. have done so for as long as i can remember. in the begining it was social smoke. i dont drink so it was like a few beers after work to relax. 40 years later it is now a substitute for the pain relievers the doctor prescribes me, the states are letting the voters legalize pot state by state , these states are makeing money from the users in most states you have to pay to get a card to grow & have it. then they let dispensary's sell it to patients that cannot or do not grow their own, which is taxed by the state. Sooner or later the Feds will want that money and will cave to it. The same will happen with online gambleing, sooner or later