Polk and Matusow about to clash in... Wait... Mixed Games?

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Recently we have seen another heated discussion involving two controversial players: on one side, Doug Polk, a No-Limit Hold'em Heads-up specialist; on the other side, Mike Matusow, one of the most known names in the poker scenario for many decades, even mentioned to deserve a place in the Hall of Fame.

These two players share one aspect in common: they divide peoples' opinions about their behavior. But one thing we can't deny: their skills in our beloved game of poker. While Polk is very well known for his battles in the High Stakes scenario, specially recently with his $100k Heads-up Challenge, Matusow's skills are extender much far beyond Hold'em: he is always playing almost all other variants at the wsop events. What could make two (not so) different players like that clash in a Heads-up battle?!

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How it all started

Some days ago, Mike "The Mouth" Matusow opened a poll in his X (formerly Twitter) profile, saying he was considering to start a coaching program for Omaha H/L and Stud H/L, and also asking his followers if they were interested. Maybe for his surprise, 62.1% of the 1,639 people who voted, said that Mike "sucks" and should not start coaching.

Despite the "meme" and fun people make from these Twitter polls, this is where Polk came to leave his provocative comment, which, of couse, caught Matusow's attention quite easily.

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After this reply, Matusow quickly put the cards at the table, proposing a Heads-up match with Polk in these two games.
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Match proposal

And Polk, probably for Mike's (and everyone else) surprise, quickly accepted, inviting Matusow to play at The Lodge Card Club and proposing a battle at $1k/$2k limits.

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Matusow's terms

While everything was looking settled, Matusow stated that would not like to play with his hole cards exposed on stream, only the board cards revealed.

Doug quickly replied, saying that, if Mike's intention was to teach people how to play these games, the best way to get more students was beating Polk at his own home, in a big show for the fans. That was enough to spark Matusow's anger.

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Polk just said to him to transfer $500k to the Lodge and come over to Texas, to play some Mixed Games Heads-up, promising to crush Matusow, despite being a relatively inexperienced player. He agreed to play only showing flops/open cards, no hole cards exposed. But no reply from Matusow up to now.

Conclusion

The poker community believes the Matusow will back out and find any reason not to play this match. Doug is eager to play.

What do you think? Do you believe that Polk has some other things in mind with this match where, in theory, he seems the underdog? What can he earn from this match, besides a lot of views and revenue from the stream, if he loses? Do you think that the "new generation" powerful and quick study can beat the experience of the old school?

Personally, I think that Polk has one of the best Mixed Games player and coach at his side, Jake "Jllama" Abdalla, which also offers a Mixed Games strategy course at Upswing Poker (founded by Doug Polk), plus a lot of Heads-up skills, and certainly can surprise in this match. However, Mike's experience makes him the "theory favorite", despite having two things against him: (1) his age, 65-years-old, while not a determining factor, can have tremendous impact, (2) and his anger management issues.

Would you be interested in following a battle between these two controversial poker figures? I am looking forward to hear from you.
 
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If this match takes place, I will personally cover it for the forum, regardless if there's a stream. I'm going to try and get to the Lodge tonight or tomorrow some time. I'll ask around and see what's happening if anything.
Can we make predictions now? I love Mike and I've always pulled for him, especially during the early "High Stakes Poker" days. On the other hand, if I'm going to bet, I'm going w/the better horse. Sorry Mike.
 
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interesting match up , but i doubt it's gonna happen .
 
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I think this and similar HU battles are just for publicity.

It takes a whole lot of hands before you can decide who is the best.
 
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The skirmish and provocative messages of Mike Matusov and Doug Polk fuel the interest of viewers. The bonfire will light up as soon as gasoline is added. People on Twitter voted funny. I would love to see their confrontation of old school and fast learning.
 
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I would be surprised if Mike Matusow followed through with this. I feel like he struggles at the highest stakes and would probably need someone to bankroll him. If it does somehow happen, I'd love to see it though. Mixed games aren't easily available to watch and would love to see the new and old school going at it.
 
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I think this is yet another reason Polk is so universally considered a tool... The age thing alone is absurd since he's 65 not 102 , but for the sake of argument let's see... checks notes.... Matusow has 4 bracelets, 3 of them in mix games, Polk has 3 bracelets, 0 of them in mix games...
 
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Recently we have seen another heated discussion involving two controversial players: on one side, Doug Polk, a No-Limit Hold'em Heads-up specialist; on the other side, Mike Matusow, one of the most known names in the poker scenario for many decades, even mentioned to deserve a place in the Hall of Fame.

These two players share one aspect in common: they divide peoples' opinions about their behavior. But one thing we can't deny: their skills in our beloved game of poker. While Polk is very well known for his battles in the High Stakes scenario, specially recently with his $100k Heads-up Challenge, Matusow's skills are extender much far beyond Hold'em: he is always playing almost all other variants at the WSOP events. What could make two (not so) different players like that clash in a Heads-up battle?!

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How it all started

Some days ago, Mike "The Mouth" Matusow opened a poll in his X (formerly Twitter) profile, saying he was considering to start a coaching program for Omaha H/L and Stud H/L, and also asking his followers if they were interested. Maybe for his surprise, 62.1% of the 1,639 people who voted, said that Mike "sucks" and should not start coaching.

Despite the "meme" and fun people make from these Twitter polls, this is where Polk came to leave his provocative comment, which, of couse, caught Matusow's attention quite easily.

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After this reply, Matusow quickly put the cards at the table, proposing a Heads-up match with Polk in these two games.
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Match proposal

And Polk, probably for Mike's (and everyone else) surprise, quickly accepted, inviting Matusow to play at The Lodge Card Club and proposing a battle at $1k/$2k limits.

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Matusow's terms

While everything was looking settled, Matusow stated that would not like to play with his hole cards exposed on stream, only the board cards revealed.

Doug quickly replied, saying that, if Mike's intention was to teach people how to play these games, the best way to get more students was beating Polk at his own home, in a big show for the fans. That was enough to spark Matusow's anger.

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Polk just said to him to transfer $500k to the Lodge and come over to Texas, to play some Mixed Games Heads-up, promising to crush Matusow, despite being a relatively inexperienced player. He agreed to play only showing flops/open cards, no hole cards exposed. But no reply from Matusow up to now.

Conclusion

The poker community believes the Matusow will back out and find any reason not to play this match. Doug is eager to play.

What do you think? Do you believe that Polk has some other things in mind with this match where, in theory, he seems the underdog? What can he earn from this match, besides a lot of views and revenue from the stream, if he loses? Do you think that the "new generation" powerful and quick study can beat the experience of the old school?

Personally, I think that Polk has one of the best Mixed Games player and coach at his side, Jake "Jllama" Abdalla, which also offers a Mixed Games strategy course at Upswing Poker (founded by Doug Polk), plus a lot of Heads-up skills, and certainly can surprise in this match. However, Mike's experience makes him the "theory favorite", despite having two things against him: (1) his age, 65-years-old, while not a determining factor, can have tremendous impact, (2) and his anger management issues.

Would you be interested in following a battle between these two controversial poker figures? I am looking forward to hear from you.
That was interesting news. (y)
 
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If this match takes place, I will personally cover it for the forum, regardless if there's a stream. I'm going to try and get to the Lodge tonight or tomorrow some time. I'll ask around and see what's happening if anything.
Can we make predictions now? I love Mike and I've always pulled for him, especially during the early "High Stakes Poker" days. On the other hand, if I'm going to bet, I'm going w/the better horse. Sorry Mike.
Hey, that would be great!! It would be like we have an insider with privileged information heheh.
I think Polk has to have something in mind. He does not seem the kind of guy that acts by impulse.

I think this is yet another reason Polk is so universally considered a tool... The age thing alone is absurd since he's 65 not 102 , but for the sake of argument let's see... checks notes.... Matusow has 4 bracelets, 3 of them in mix games, Polk has 3 bracelets, 0 of them in mix games...
That makes things quite interesting huh? I mean, consider the $100k Heads-up Challenge vs. The World that Polk is doing. He is a proven NLH HU specialist, we can already expect him to crush his opponent good amount of the times. But in Mixed Hi/Lo Games? Well, I don't doubt anything, but I also can't state he is going to have an easy time like in Hold'em. One thing is for sure, Polk seems quite determined, that would scare me a lot :p

Polk has to have something more in mind beyond just challenging a proven great Mixed Games player, or just having some fun. Let's wait to see it, if it really happens, of course.
 
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Polk has to have something more in mind beyond just challenging a proven great Mixed Games player, or just having some fun. Let's wait to see it, if it really happens, of course.
I really think Doug and the rest of the "anti-rake" poker community are trying to bring the game back to one of it's roots, aka Texas. If you watch any of the Lodge streams or keep up w/some of the high-profile players they seem to like playing here, at least at the Lodge. I've seen Phil Helmuth hanging around Houston over the summer. I think Andrew Lichtenberger (Lucky Chewy) was there, as well, at a club in Houston. The Champions Club in H-town is, imo, another model for poker rooms. It resembles a Vegas hotel/casino from the outside but it's a poker room. But I digress.
I've noticed 3 new poker rooms that came up over the summer here in the Lone Star state. So the industry is definitely preparing for some kind of mass exodus, which is fine w/me. There's plenty of room(s) here for everyone to play. 😎
 
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Personally, I hope it happens. I actually think Doug may have a harder time on this one. Mike really is better at other games, and I think may actually beat doug.
 
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Personally, I hope it happens. I actually think Doug may have a harder time on this one. Mike really is better at other games, and I think may actually beat doug.
I think Mike just tries to capitalise on softer fields and Doug will win if he puts any effort in.
 
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I really think Doug and the rest of the "anti-rake" poker community are trying to bring the game back to one of it's roots, aka Texas. If you watch any of the Lodge streams or keep up w/some of the high-profile players they seem to like playing here, at least at the Lodge. I've seen Phil Helmuth hanging around Houston over the summer. I think Andrew Lichtenberger (Lucky Chewy) was there, as well, at a club in Houston. The Champions Club in H-town is, imo, another model for poker rooms. It resembles a Vegas hotel/casino from the outside but it's a poker room. But I digress.
I've noticed 3 new poker rooms that came up over the summer here in the Lone Star state. So the industry is definitely preparing for some kind of mass exodus, which is fine w/me. There's plenty of room(s) here for everyone to play. 😎
You made me Google: https://www.electricrate.com/residential-rates/texas/most-affordable-areas/
 
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I asked a few people the other night and only one guy knew about it. Not quite the buzz I was expecting. Mike might have already crapped out or it was just a s-m stunt. :unsure:
 
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I´m sure many fans would watch that heads-up if it happened.I hope the old school can win the game.
 
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I asked a few people the other night and only one guy knew about it. Not quite the buzz I was expecting. Mike might have already crapped out or it was just a s-m stunt. :unsure:
Probably this was just another episode of Mike's big mouth. This is his nickname, right? "The Mouth".
But that would be great to see. Let's wait, these guys decide things quite suddenly sometimes.
 
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Two big egos that love to see their names in the news .
 
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I asked a few people the other night and only one guy knew about it. Not quite the buzz I was expecting. Mike might have already crapped out or it was just a s-m stunt. :unsure:
Mike Matusov's talkativeness can play a bad role. It will be easier for Doug Polk to bring him to emotional speech and hook him up. We are expecting a duel.
 
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I think Mike wins if they play Stud H/L.

If its NL HU Polk destroys him, but not at Stud H/L.
 
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i dont think it will ever happen ... and almost all the other mixed games are not played no-limit .
 
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