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A lot of this thread is taken up with people talking past one another- I took an away-day as a sort of palate cleanser.
The issue I felt uncomfortable with was the idea this would be a slam dunk for the claimant. I whole heartedly agree Mike Postle looks like a cheat and have been at pains to underscore this was a civil, not criminal case. I think there is an irony to this position which is misconstrued by some. Perhaps I (and others) are concerned that Postle might get away with this and are therefore more mindful/cautious regarding the outcome.
That said, I have tried to zero in on aspects which are the most damning about Postle's behavior and what could possibly trip up an 'expected' judgement.
Two aspects of his play seem the most suspect. Whilst the win rate is absurd I think these two points are easier to grasp (always thinking jury response). The first is his change of behavior pinpointed to the day- his win rate rises, the frequency of his sessions at Stones immediately increases and his phone is now permanently in his lap as opposed to being in open view as it was prior to this specific date.
The second damning catch is that of hole cards scanned incorrectly by the RFID technology being amended mid-hand. These examples are only a few in number compared to the number of Postle 'god mode' hands but much more dubious.
The RFID scan can misread cards. On occasion the cards on the graphics were changed with a technical advisor informing the commentators (audibly on air during the stream) a player's hole cards were incorrect. The problem being Postle was in a couple of such hands and appears to have immediately adjusted his play. It appears he was receiving the adjusted hole cards information in real time.
The obvious problem being the commentators are on a thirty minute delay- the technical assistant telling them of the graphics flaw on air is therefore thirty minutes after it took place. Yet Postle miraculously adjusted his play in real time, half an hour before. In the middle of play he is informed his hand is weaker than he thought so he folds to small bet whilst holding an over pair to the board, due to the fact he is now aware his opponent is now actually holding a stronger pair, not rags.
In terms of hurdles to over come...is it clear yet whether this case will be held before a judge or a jury? Perhaps HobokenNJ can provide some input on these matters.
One obvious trail to pursue would be that of phone records of the various parties involved. However, is this not admitted at the judges discretion regarding possible invasion of privacy? Further, if Postle and accomplice(s) were using 'bone conduction' audio feeds were they also using an App which would either clear the message history or encrypt it. Postle has confidently stated there is no evidence (to the point of being smug).
Finally, one aspect which has bugged a little reading the commentary here and elsewhere ( I admit I am being a little anal) is the accusations concern two separate methods of cheating, a fact which most casually gloss over.
The bulge in his baseball cap is claimed to be a 'bone conduction' audio feed. The information sent to his phone would necessarily be a graphics feed otherwise there would be little reason to glance at his phone (all the audio info would have been bluetoothed to his head set). So that means an accomplice was feeding two streams of information for prolonged periods without raising suspicion? I'd pose when you get into the nitty gritty with a potential jury (not to mention the possibility of no physical evidence) things might appear a little more confusing and murkier to them than us.
Regardless of the outcome, Postle will never be taken seriously again (as likely his one, possible two accomplices if the sleuthing is correct) but I do wonder about Stones itself. They have been slack as all hell so criticism is justified. However, would they be able to survive a multi-million dollar award against them?
The issue I felt uncomfortable with was the idea this would be a slam dunk for the claimant. I whole heartedly agree Mike Postle looks like a cheat and have been at pains to underscore this was a civil, not criminal case. I think there is an irony to this position which is misconstrued by some. Perhaps I (and others) are concerned that Postle might get away with this and are therefore more mindful/cautious regarding the outcome.
That said, I have tried to zero in on aspects which are the most damning about Postle's behavior and what could possibly trip up an 'expected' judgement.
Two aspects of his play seem the most suspect. Whilst the win rate is absurd I think these two points are easier to grasp (always thinking jury response). The first is his change of behavior pinpointed to the day- his win rate rises, the frequency of his sessions at Stones immediately increases and his phone is now permanently in his lap as opposed to being in open view as it was prior to this specific date.
The second damning catch is that of hole cards scanned incorrectly by the RFID technology being amended mid-hand. These examples are only a few in number compared to the number of Postle 'god mode' hands but much more dubious.
The RFID scan can misread cards. On occasion the cards on the graphics were changed with a technical advisor informing the commentators (audibly on air during the stream) a player's hole cards were incorrect. The problem being Postle was in a couple of such hands and appears to have immediately adjusted his play. It appears he was receiving the adjusted hole cards information in real time.
The obvious problem being the commentators are on a thirty minute delay- the technical assistant telling them of the graphics flaw on air is therefore thirty minutes after it took place. Yet Postle miraculously adjusted his play in real time, half an hour before. In the middle of play he is informed his hand is weaker than he thought so he folds to small bet whilst holding an over pair to the board, due to the fact he is now aware his opponent is now actually holding a stronger pair, not rags.
In terms of hurdles to over come...is it clear yet whether this case will be held before a judge or a jury? Perhaps HobokenNJ can provide some input on these matters.
One obvious trail to pursue would be that of phone records of the various parties involved. However, is this not admitted at the judges discretion regarding possible invasion of privacy? Further, if Postle and accomplice(s) were using 'bone conduction' audio feeds were they also using an App which would either clear the message history or encrypt it. Postle has confidently stated there is no evidence (to the point of being smug).
Finally, one aspect which has bugged a little reading the commentary here and elsewhere ( I admit I am being a little anal) is the accusations concern two separate methods of cheating, a fact which most casually gloss over.
The bulge in his baseball cap is claimed to be a 'bone conduction' audio feed. The information sent to his phone would necessarily be a graphics feed otherwise there would be little reason to glance at his phone (all the audio info would have been bluetoothed to his head set). So that means an accomplice was feeding two streams of information for prolonged periods without raising suspicion? I'd pose when you get into the nitty gritty with a potential jury (not to mention the possibility of no physical evidence) things might appear a little more confusing and murkier to them than us.
Regardless of the outcome, Postle will never be taken seriously again (as likely his one, possible two accomplices if the sleuthing is correct) but I do wonder about Stones itself. They have been slack as all hell so criticism is justified. However, would they be able to survive a multi-million dollar award against them?
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