Daniel vs Phil H Headsup match - Could it happen?

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That would be fantastic entertainment, could Phil helmuth handle the crazy variance of HU online poker. I don't think so , I think he will know Daniel would beat him and think Daniel knows it's easy money if he accepts. I see Daniel looking for an opponent to get his losses back he lost against Doug Polk.
Either way how exciting, hope it happens .
 
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I would love to see this match. Dnegs should have the edge but it is definitely more evenly matched than it was with him vs Polk. There should be no blowout here.
 
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Negreanu came out of the polk match with alot of knowlledge, and i believe hellmuth said he wouldnt even study if he was lined up in a HU match and he would limp alot.

I would put my money on negreanu
 
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I think Daniel Negreanu will win easily this match, the HU variance will kill Helmut game and I think he will handle it for some time but not enough to beat Kid Poker. Regards :D
 
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this would be even more fun to watch if it were live
 
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Haven't heard too much from Phil, lately, and Daniel hasn't been playing well this year, and is dropping in rank.

I think it's a great idea for Daniel, and Phil, to be able to make some headlines, again.
 
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I don’t know :dontknow: if this match will come up, but I’m sure I’d be very curious :captain: about it.

I hope it comes true. :)



Come on, Daniel!:five:
 
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honestly if its gonna be online it wouldnt be as interesting as if it was Live! but i would watch either way , hope it happens
 
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Daniel Negreanu will talk about a possible match with Phil Hellmuth. The live broadcast will be available here.

 
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Kid Poker has openly challenged the Poker Brat to a new Heads Up Challenge as seen on Twitter.

What are the chances of this Heads Up battle coming to fruition?

A Match for the Ages: Negreanu Challenges Hellmuth to Heads-Up Duel




What is Kid Poker thinking?
After losing to Dolg Polk, Negreano invites Poker Brat to a battle. Wouldn't that bring something negative to your professional career?! After building his success and being defeated by Dolg and a possible defeat for Brat, he could lose his contract opportunities.

This week Tony G also challenged Brat .. The poker world is getting more fun !!
 
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Kid Poker has openly challenged the Poker Brat to a new Heads Up Challenge as seen on Twitter.

What are the chances of this Heads Up battle coming to fruition?

A Match for the Ages: Negreanu Challenges Hellmuth to Heads-Up Duel

I think DNegs better hit the brakes here. I know he gained a ton of experience battling "HU Expert" Doug Polk who is a fundamentally terrific GTO strategist, but, that was a different kind of battle. Phil seems to rise to every challenge. I know not a lot of people like his brash style and prefer "nice, friendly" Daniel, but we are talking about actual competition here and not personality styles.

Yes, Daniel gained experience and knowledge vs Polk, but he still lost badly to a guy who quit poker almost 2 years before. I think that fact is lost on a lot of people as is the fact that Polk played Hellmuth heads up and got destroyed. Antonio Esfandiari talked smack for YEARS challenging Hellmuth to a HU match, and what happened? Phil trounced him 3 times IN A ROW.

I know these were all live matches and that there is a substantial difference between live and online, so I highly doubt that it would ever take place because I do not ever see or hear of Phil playing much online. But, if it were to happen, I believe that Phil gives Daniel a beat down. maybe he is at a disadvantage because Daniel has become much more proficient in GTO strategies and Phil won't have the advantage of being able to use his incredible live reads, but, even against Polk, Daniel deviated often and significantly from GTO strategies and I believe part of Phil's reading ability is that he chooses to believe his gut feelings. This may not be as scientific as GTO play, but it can be unbelievably powerful and reliable.

I really hope this match does take place, I think the hype would dwarf DNegs v Polk and bring a lot of interest to the game. I just think that the outcome may be starkly different than what most people are predicting.
 
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I hope it happens would love to watch, I am sure both of them will say they ran really bad.
 
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I think DNegs better hit the brakes here. I know he gained a ton of experience battling "HU Expert" Doug Polk who is a fundamentally terrific GTO strategist, but, that was a different kind of battle. Phil seems to rise to every challenge. I know not a lot of people like his brash style and prefer "nice, friendly" Daniel, but we are talking about actual competition here and not personality styles.

Not sure about the 'nice, friendly' description you've given for Daniel. You know... teeth getting placed with his boot, etc.
Meanwhile.. Phil is a great guy away from the tables.

Yes, Daniel gained experience and knowledge vs Polk, but he still lost badly to a guy who quit poker almost 2 years before. I think that fact is lost on a lot of people as is the fact that Polk played Hellmuth heads up and got destroyed. Antonio Esfandiari talked smack for YEARS challenging Hellmuth to a HU match, and what happened? Phil trounced him 3 times IN A ROW.

Daniel put in 25k hands vs. arguably the best NLHE HU specialist in the World & improved dramatically along the way.
I know these were all live matches and that there is a substantial difference between live and online, so I highly doubt that it would ever take place because I do not ever see or hear of Phil playing much online. But, if it were to happen, I believe that Phil gives Daniel a beat down. maybe he is at a disadvantage because Daniel has become much more proficient in GTO strategies and Phil won't have the advantage of being able to use his incredible live reads, but, even against Polk, Daniel deviated often and significantly from GTO strategies and I believe part of Phil's reading ability is that he chooses to believe his gut feelings. This may not be as scientific as GTO play, but it can be unbelievably powerful and reliable.

I really hope this match does take place, I think the hype would dwarf DNegs v Polk and bring a lot of interest to the game. I just think that the outcome may be starkly different than what most people are predicting.


If I were to bet on Helmuth v Daniel I'd have to pick Daniel (if it was over a decent-sized hand sample of deepstakes cash HU and not just some HU SNG format). So I won't be betting on it because I can't stand Daniel.
 
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Kid Poker has openly challenged the Poker Brat to a new Heads Up Challenge as seen on Twitter.

What are the chances of this Heads Up battle coming to fruition?

A Match for the Ages: Negreanu Challenges Hellmuth to Heads-Up Duel

So it looks like Phil H. accepted the challenge. I am sure this will bring many people to watch, as recreational card players love the old school guys. I actually "like" Phil H. as a person more than Dannyboy. BUT I will be rooting for Dnegs because 1) he really put work into his heads up game. 2) watching Phil have epic meltdowns would be comedy gold.

I will be waiting for more details. :D
 
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the odds are very high two great poker would be great to see that table as it's going to burn
 
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If I were to bet on Helmuth v Daniel I'd have to pick Daniel (if it was over a decent-sized hand sample of deepstakes cash HU and not just some HU SNG format). So I won't be betting on it because I can't stand Daniel.



I feel the same, I think Dnegs gained a ton of experience in his loss to D. Polk, and Phil H. is a good human away from the tables, I think Daniel will win, I will watch some, probably not as much as I watched from Doug or Phil G. challenges
 
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That would be so cool. Personally being a Canadian player my favourite player is Daniel and Phil Hellmuth is a really good personality in Poker. We all love his rages against Tony G on The Big Game and it would be great content for the poker community. I do think Negreanu has a advantage as I think he is more well rounded and has experience against Doug Polk and Hellmuth is really only known for his tournament play bet that could be my bias.
 
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