Mortis
The Saurus
Loyaler
Direct link to the Market Watch story:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/do...-top-us-online-poker-sites-2011-04-15-1358350
LuckyChippy
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
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xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
all speculation here on but:
why would the fbi sit around since 06', not doing anything about sites blatanly running in the U.S. and then up and decide today to take some actions against them? It's probably the big casino's realizing that online poker is going to be legal sooner rather than later (Legal in D.C, in the process in Nevada)
They dont want to lose all that potential revenue, so they want to get PS/FTP/UB out of the market, so they will have their share of the pie
ALL Speculation ^^^^
why would the fbi sit around since 06', not doing anything about sites blatanly running in the U.S. and then up and decide today to take some actions against them? It's probably the big casino's realizing that online poker is going to be legal sooner rather than later (Legal in D.C, in the process in Nevada)
They dont want to lose all that potential revenue, so they want to get PS/FTP/UB out of the market, so they will have their share of the pie
ALL Speculation ^^^^
Mortis
The Saurus
Loyaler
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
your computer isnt updated yet, its probably still running off an old copy of the page...within 24-48 hours it will update for everyone...mine only does this for UB right now, but there is confirmed pics of FTP/PS as welll
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Stu_Ungar
Legend
Silver Level
You were given the right to bear arms so that if your government ever became this corrupt you could overthrow them.
Is it finally time use that right for something other than robbing convenience stores?
Stu_Ungar
Legend
Silver Level
Well the space tournament is off for starters.
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
lol lets hope
hypothetically, if the big 3 were out of U.S market, online poker would become legal quickly. Who wouldn't want a part of a billion $ industry w/the chance to grow exponentially, if it was "legal" and access was easy
(speculation above, just my thoughts)
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
It has nothing to do with your personal computer not updating yet. Nothing has been changed on FT or PS's sites yet(Push F5 and it will clear all cache for the current site you're on and reload from the server, nothing has changed).
coolnout
Legend
Silver Level
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/04/online-poker-big-three-indicted-10218.htm
In the indictment, Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said, "As charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits. Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don’t like simply because they can’t bear to be parted from their profits."
FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge Janice K. Fedarcyk said, "These defendants, knowing full well that their business with U.S. customers and U.S. banks was illegal, tried to stack the deck. They lied to banks about the true nature of their business. Then, some of the defendants found banks willing to flout the law for a fee. The defendants bet the house that they could continue their scheme, and they lost."
At least $3 billion in civil money laundering penalties from both the poker companies and defendants is being sought after. According to the indictment, Campos and Elie were arrested Friday morning in Utah and Las Vegas, Nevada, respectively. Franzen is expected to appear in court for his arraignment on April 19, 2011. Those who are not in the United States, Scheinberg, Bitar, Burtnick, Tate, Tom, Beckley, Rubin, and Lang, have not been arrested, but the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York is working with foreign law enforcement agencies and Interpol to arrest the defendants.
In the indictment, Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said, "As charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits. Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don’t like simply because they can’t bear to be parted from their profits."
FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge Janice K. Fedarcyk said, "These defendants, knowing full well that their business with U.S. customers and U.S. banks was illegal, tried to stack the deck. They lied to banks about the true nature of their business. Then, some of the defendants found banks willing to flout the law for a fee. The defendants bet the house that they could continue their scheme, and they lost."
At least $3 billion in civil money laundering penalties from both the poker companies and defendants is being sought after. According to the indictment, Campos and Elie were arrested Friday morning in Utah and Las Vegas, Nevada, respectively. Franzen is expected to appear in court for his arraignment on April 19, 2011. Those who are not in the United States, Scheinberg, Bitar, Burtnick, Tate, Tom, Beckley, Rubin, and Lang, have not been arrested, but the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York is working with foreign law enforcement agencies and Interpol to arrest the defendants.
Pascal-lf
Legend
Silver Level
People won't be able to deposit tho - they've arrested the owner of a bank which they've invested in and been using.
They want to confisct $3bn and arrest the owners; it'll destroy the reputation of the sites with fish, they'll just see "poker..FBI" and run.
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
this was the explanation i saw for it...im not a computer savy guy though so
"DNS propagation is still in progress so it might not show for you. Depends on who your ISP is but it is coming. Look at the name servers for ub.com, absolutepoker.com, pokerstars.com, fulltiltpoker.com ...all the same. And all updated today. "
"DNS propagation is still in progress so it might not show for you. Depends on who your ISP is but it is coming. Look at the name servers for ub.com, absolutepoker.com, pokerstars.com, fulltiltpoker.com ...all the same. And all updated today. "
WVHillbilly
Legend
Silver Level
Yeah all the sites have most definitely been seized. The reason you might still see one or two of them is below.
Mortis
The Saurus
Loyaler
Actually.. today, April 15 is typically the tax day... but I think they delayed it a few days this year.
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
probably not, this is just the first step in the process...
the games are still running on all sites, so i would assume your ok for awhile, as to the near future, who knows