Alleged cheating on Stones Live

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Watching some of the videos. He's running way to good. Saw something posted about his baseball cap.
 
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The circumstantial evidence is pretty overwhelming. That, and being on record talking about how you and your brother will take any angle possible.
 
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Its funny how so many people here don’t think he’s cheating. The hands are suspicious but I guess someone could run this god like. Uhhh...

But have people seen his padded hat? When he plays, the hat is padded with possibly a device to get information from whoever is feeding it to him. When he does an interview, it doesn’t have that padding. It’s also weird that the TD that might have the card information is good friends with Postle. And how Postle looks human when the TD is at the wsop.

Hopefully the truth comes out. I’ve played at Stones before and really like the poker room. But this is going to have a black cloud over it for a while.
 
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Mike Postle is cheating for sure, I watched a Doug Polk stream with Joey, there are a lot of details which looks like he is cheating for sure. Speakers in his hat, graphic change (changing his cards) etc.. Check Doug Polk videos and you will understand everything
 
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i don't know if is cheating or not but Mike Postle have the nuts if he is not cheating, and have my respect for that
 
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Again, I am sure some will read this as making a point without a difference, but...it's the 'imprecise' nature of the shade which bugs me. As noted already, Postle looks suspicious, there is no getting away from that (for diplomacy's sake lets say rightly or wrongly).

But what irritates is those of an accusatory bent, certainly here, pile on to Postle and then generally wimp out. If we accept Postle is being fed information he is either in cahoots with the casino itself or casino employees. I do not quite get the specific outrage over Postle when the conspiracy by definition would include other parties.

Postle cannot instigate a thing on his own. I would suggest an independent enquiry to investigate not just Postle but the casino operations. As it stands, it would appear Stones is extending their own investigations after an initial finding of 'nothing to see here'.

I would have thought it made sense for the casino to have already brought in independent investigators so they could at least put distance between themselves and any fraudulent employees which might get exposed.
 
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To paraphrase President Trump:

“You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The cheaters and thieves, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.” :eek:


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So at least now Stones has decided that an independent 3rd party is the way to investigate...finally.


That should have been the course of action they took as soon as this story got some traction.
 
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So at least now Stones has decided that an independent 3rd party is the way to investigate...finally.

That should have been the course of action they took as soon as this story got some traction.

The more stream I watch, the more amazing it become to me, that this could proceed for this long, before someone sounded the alarm bell. The commentators were even making jokes about, how well Mike ran, and using words like "The Postle Zone", while his avatar on the stream was a devil.

At the very least Stones should have launched this independent 3rd party investigation, when Veronica came forward with her worrys. Instead they tried to wipe it under the carpet by saying "nothing to see here, we checked it all, just move on". Negligent is the kindest word for the behaviour of the management.
 
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The more stream I watch, the more amazing it become to me, that this could proceed for this long, before someone sounded the alarm bell. The commentators were even making jokes about, how well Mike ran, and using words like "The Postle Zone", while his avatar on the stream was a devil.

At the very least Stones should have launched this independent 3rd party investigation, when Veronica came forward with her worrys. Instead they tried to wipe it under the carpet by saying "nothing to see here, we checked it all, just move on". Negligent is the kindest word for the behaviour of the management.


I've been wondering if the people that tried to sweep it under the rug are the very people helping him cheat, especially considering how snarky that first twitter response was. Maybe the level of outrage caught the attention of someone above that person(President, BOD, etc) and now the real investigation is happening. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. I was late to the party and watched maybe 15-20 minutes of Ingram/Martin/Polk video and was very convinced very quickly. He makes a handful of poker plays that literally nobody ever makes...or if they do they would be a massive losing poker player. Him looking at his phone constantly and literally everything about his body language.
 
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I watched Joey Ingram on YouTube this morning and a few things..

Mike Postle said something like "They wanted a hero" im not sure if that is an admission of something or not, but uh..

Secondly, some of the hands in question are hands that i see all of the time like multiple times a day and alot of Postles other hands did look very suspicious.

Lastly, the hat bulge appears to be real folks. And his body language, although we can all make postures, touch our hair etc its something to see too. The way Ingram talks about him doing so is accurate and pretty good.
 
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If there is a video, where is the best place to watch it.
 
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If there is a video, where is the best place to watch it.


I just went to YouTube and searched "stones live". You'll find everything from 2 minute clips to 5 hour videos.
 
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Doug Polk has posted some videos. The latest one with Mike looking down at his lap and then calling is very telling.
 
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Doug Polk has posted some videos. The latest one with Mike looking down at his lap and then calling is very telling.


Yeah, its a good video. In the middle of a possible huge cheating scandal and he goes into deep analysis as usual. One thing tho. I've seen profitable poker players messing around in cash games playing hands like the 54 before in much higher limits. I get what hes saying, and its spot on. Its not profitable poker (unless you maybe raise with it once in a blue moon and show it to mix it up or something) :p These are some weird plays by Postle for sure.
 
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IMHO the most suspicious part is that he sticks to low stakes after that win rate for so long. If he can truly read tells so well, then why hasn't he ever up?

Maybe just because the players at higher stakes are not as readable ?

I agree that his winrate is spooky, but i don't think that is enough evidence to accuse him of cheating without any further investigation and without any explenation how he can know his opponents cards.
 
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I have seen a lot of footage on this, and I'm not sure if people realize how big of a deal this is. For this to be true, a larger conspiracy could be at large. He could only cheat with help from insiders. Small rumblings have been out there, and this has kept going. Someone higher up must have known and kept this quiet. I'm not sure if we will every get to the bottom of this, but WOW.
 
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I have seen a lot of footage on this, and I'm not sure if people realize how big of a deal this is. For this to be true, a larger conspiracy could be at large. He could only cheat with help from insiders. Small rumblings have been out there, and this has kept going. Someone higher up must have known and kept this quiet. I'm not sure if we will every get to the bottom of this, but WOW.


It does indeed seem likely, that one or more insiders were involved in this, as was also the case in the online "superuser" scandals. However that being said, its hardly a "large conspiracy", if a single or a few employees decided to completely **** the company, they are working for.
 
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He’s cheating Watched some of hands and he plays like a donkey except he knows his opponent’s hole cards Then other times he makes nitty folds 99% of poker players would not. He takes some time to make a decision. I suspect he getting relay message through his cap
 
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I'm not sure if people realize how big of a deal this is.a larger conspiracy could be at large

You obviously haven't read some of our posts on this fine forum my friend.
 
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