4flush warns that Cake Poker and Juicy Stakes Appear to be in Serious Trouble

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lock poker is jammed up, but its juss taking a while 2 get your western union money supposed 2 b 4-5 weeks, but its more like 2-3 months n checks r being around 5 months ive heard. ill sell 500 on lock poker for 250 on americas cardroom if nebodys interested
 
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Lol, flashback to like 6 months ago when I made a staking thread asking for a relatively smallish stake for MTTs.....and then some smartass basically asking why someone my age would need to ask for X amount to deposit....

Guys, if you aren't comfortable with the fact that there is a decent chance you will forfit any/all deposits on American facing sites at this point, I would pull out all or most of your money.

Some people never learn...it's a part of the calculation you make playing in the US (online) right now....it's silly for people to act like its so shocking that they might be losing their deposits in this environment.

I just don't get it...
 
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Seems like most sites will gladly take your money but are hesitant to send you money if you win. It always seem like there is some reason why they cannot send you money in a timely manner. paypal and Dwolla have a pretty good system to see if money can be withdrawn and deposited into your bank account. To set up your account on either one of them, they send you 2 small deposits of less than 20 cents each.
After you get the 2 deposits, you get on their site and tell them what the 2 amounts were. After you tell them, they withdraw both amounts to see if they can actually get money if you need to link an account to pay for something through their site.I am not saying that sites should use PayPal or Dwolla (PayPal even considers the sweepstakes club sites from using their service. NLOP CardPlayer poker was denied use of their service after one payout to their members. PayPal considers sweepstakes sites as gambling) but maybe implement this thinking into considering whether to accept a first time deposit.
There should be no reason that if you can deposit a minimum of $20, why you can't withdraw a minimum of $20. This is the main reason I do not deposit money on any of the sites available to United States players. What if I want to try playing for money for the first time and I find out that I am not as good as I thought , imagine that : ) , but manage to get back up to the $20 I deposited. I can't quit until I can turn the 20 into 50 or whatever the minimum withdraw is.
One other reason is at any given moment, any of these sites that I can play on could be shut down. online poker legality is a gray area and it wouldn't take much to shut all the sites down.
 
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Seems like most sites will gladly take your money but are hesitant to send you money if you win. It always seem like there is some reason why they cannot send you money in a timely manner. Paypal and Dwolla have a pretty good system to see if money can be withdrawn and deposited into your bank account. To set up your account on either one of them, they send you 2 small deposits of less than 20 cents each.
After you get the 2 deposits, you get on their site and tell them what the 2 amounts were. After you tell them, they withdraw both amounts to see if they can actually get money if you need to link an account to pay for something through their site.I am not saying that sites should use PayPal or Dwolla (PayPal even considers the sweepstakes club sites from using their service. NLOP CardPlayer poker was denied use of their service after one payout to their members. PayPal considers sweepstakes sites as gambling) but maybe implement this thinking into considering whether to accept a first time deposit.
There should be no reason that if you can deposit a minimum of $20, why you can't withdraw a minimum of $20. This is the main reason I do not deposit money on any of the sites available to United States players. What if I want to try playing for money for the first time and I find out that I am not as good as I thought , imagine that : ) , but manage to get back up to the $20 I deposited. I can't quit until I can turn the 20 into 50 or whatever the minimum withdraw is.
One other reason is at any given moment, any of these sites that I can play on could be shut down. Online poker legality is a gray area and it wouldn't take much to shut all the sites down.

US players can not use PayPal if we get caught using PayPal for online gaming our accounts will be frozen and we won't be able to get the money out.

I doubt the US government can shut down the sites for the ROW they can and have been making it a pain in the ass for US players, but hopefully that will change SOON. (hopefully)
 
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1. The sites that are left standing the US government would not go after. These sites are nothing compared to what FullTilt and pokerstars were.
2. People in the US haven't been able to use Paypal for gambling sites in years.
3. Lock isn't paying anyone out. It is not just the US that isn't receiving funds.
 
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I have some on Juicy. Guess I'll just wait and see what happens. Rather play on Bovada anyway.
 
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I guess im one of the lucky ones, I only have around 3 or 4 bucks that i won from CC freerolls, We need to legalizr state to state online poker,this will be a huge step yowards intrtnational poker.btw im in tx whoch eill probably be the last state to legalize online poker,sigh
 
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I did not say to use PayPal. I didn't say to use Dwolla. And I also stated that they didn't let a sweepstakes site use their service but once so I know that no poker site can use PayPal. What I did say was why not come up with something like what PayPal and Dwolla does for starting an account to ensure that if you deposit and win, you are able to get your money in a timely manner. I am sure that Texas will have an online poker site many many years before the State of Utah does. Poker is the devil's son in the state of Utah. And the other devil's sons: Coffee, Chocolate and Alcohol.
 
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If you are in the US, and playing online, the sanest approach is for you to acknowledge you are currently playing for ENTERTAINMENT!

With the hassle involved, or the stiff fees, withdrawals should not be top of list of things to do today. Then add in the probability that even if something positive happens to OLP in the US, it will most likely NOT INVOLVE any of the currently available sites we use. Our BR's at those sites will become even harder to get to. It is very likely that those BR's will become forfeit.

However! Hope springs eternal, and we poker players have to be considered optimistic by nature. Lightning might strike (it did for me!), and the situation might occur where we become willing to endure the hassles of withdrawals.

Else I have always been inclined to treat my real money as play money online.
 
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really and a very unpleasant situation, and plays voçe conquinta some money, there can receber.situaçao not too bad.
 
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I started playing poker again a round 4 months ago. I played a lot (probably 30-40 hours a week) a few years ago. I have had health problems and haven't really been able to go to casinos or have had the money to play due to lack of working, doctor bills, and all that stuff. In March I put some money on Lock without knowing that the payout process was non existent. I ran it up to just under 2k in a session. My lack of playing and my own ignorance is the reason I had money stuck on there. I am a lot more conscious now of bs that goes on in the online poker world(due to this site and others that I have read in hope of one day recieving my money).

A few things I have noticed since I have started playing again is that the times have changed. There used to be a lot more games and sites obviously. However the only things that seems to be running are low limit 1-2 games which are playing like 2-5. The same thing for the casinos around where I live. I imagine since the economy. It seems like the levels have dropped and the majority of the people are forced to play the same game.
 
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I have over $100 on Juicy. Don't think I will ever see that money.
 
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