Issues with Bovada Checks

[donkcentralFF]

Bovada is trash they screwed me on a $3000 check and as a result of cashing their check I lost my bank account.. Also it has been 5 months since I deposited said check and my bank won't even allow me to get my own money back.. Bovada won't return my phone calls or emails and have told me that check issue is my problem not theirs! It's a scam and I can't wait till they legalize online in america so that the scammers at bovada lose all their business + their jobs.. Hopefully the customer service rep that posts on here is 1 of them because their all *****s..

 

[S3mper]

Bovada is trash they screwed me on a $3000 check and as a result of cashing their check I lost my bank account.. Also it has been 5 months since I deposited said check and my bank won't even allow me to get my own money back.. Bovada won't return my phone calls or emails and have told me that check issue is my problem not theirs! It's a scam and I can't wait till they legalize online in america so that the scammers at bovada lose all their business + their jobs.. Hopefully the customer service rep that posts on here is 1 of them because their all *****s..

What??

They are a scam because you're bank wouldn't process a check? Usually it's a scam when they won't send the check or when it bounces.

 

[donkcentralFF]

Scam because if they were a legit business they would provide me with the info i need to get the check cleared or call their bank have them stop the check so I can get my own money... When you know you send a bad check and than make up lies saying they have never heard of this type of thing with their checks.. That is scamming or when you stop returning emails or phone calls to a customer because you don't want to do anything to make sure they get their money (SCAM)... Or when you tell them the checks always have a phone number on the back, but when sent proof that check has no phone number on it and bank is telling you they won't clear check because they don't have a # to contact to verify check isn't fraud and bovada tells you that isn't their problem (scam).. You can stand up for your favorite non-regulated dirt ball website all u want, but when they rip you off down the road... Don't be suprised

 

[S3mper]

Scam because if they were a legit business they would provide me with the info i need to get the check cleared or call their bank have them stop the check so I can get my own money... When you know you send a bad check and than make up lies saying they have never heard of this type of thing with their checks.. That is scamming or when you stop returning emails or phone calls to a customer because you don't want to do anything to make sure they get their money (SCAM)... Or when you tell them the checks always have a phone number on the back, but when sent proof that check has no phone number on it and bank is telling you they won't clear check because they don't have a # to contact to verify check isn't fraud and bovada tells you that isn't their problem (scam).. You can stand up for your favorite non-regulated dirt ball website all u want, but when they rip you off down the road... Don't be suprised

I don't play on Bovada and am not a fan of the anonymous feature or how they don't have a P2P feature. So you are incorrect in saying I'm standing up for my favorite non-regulated website.

However- Bovada is one of the few respectable online poker sites for Americans - and one of the very rare sites that have a representative on the Forums. A active one at that.

 

[wildyetty]

... and as for Semper sounds like you've pulled somthing at your bank before with bad checks so dont blame the site.

 

[S3mper]

i hear ya sounds fishy... and as for Semper sounds like you've pulled somthing at your bank before with bad checks so dont blame the site.

Depends on what your definition of a bad check is. I've deposited Poker cash outs before, which could be defined as a bad check since it is illegal for banks to process online gaming funds. With the exception of the three states online poker is regulated in but still probably can't process offshore black market sites.

It is the norm for US players to say the check is for something else then to say it is from online poker.

My bank has never asked me where my check came from They take it and they add it to my account.

If your definition of a bad check is fake or a bounced check then no I've had yet to experience these issues.

 

[donkcentralFF]

i hear ya sounds fishy... and as for Semper sounds like you've pulled somthing at your bank before with bad checks so dont blame the site.

Dude simply put the bank has asked for the check to be verified by the company, when I asked Bovada to provide me with somebody to verify the check they told me not their problem.. That isn't a legitimate response to somebody getting stuck on a $3000 check because u gave your customer a check that didn't even have a contact number on it.. Also the fact that I asked them to cancel the check and keep the money because that is only way my bank will give me my personal money even proves my point more.. They won't even return my calls or emails just avoiding me sounds pretty fishy to me..

 

[S3mper]

Dude simply put the bank has asked for the check to be verified by the company, when I asked Bovada to provide me with somebody to verify the check they told me not their problem.. That isn't a legitimate response to somebody getting stuck on a $3000 check because u gave your customer a check that didn't even have a contact number on it.. Also the fact that I asked them to cancel the check and keep the money because that is only way my bank will give me my personal money even proves my point more.. They won't even return my calls or emails just avoiding me sounds pretty fishy to me..

Sounds to me like your bank is ripping you off just as much as you think the poker site is.

Tell your bank to (like thisss) "Either cash the damn check and give me my money, or give the check back to me and allow me to access my F**in' account"

then add "please"

Then after they do one or the other get yourself a better bank.

 

[donkcentralFF]

Sounds to me like your bank is ripping you off just as much as you think the poker site is.

Tell your bank to (like thisss) "Either cash the damn check and give me my money, or give the check back to me and allow me to access my F**in' account"

then add "please"

Then after they do one or the other get yourself a better bank.

I agree this entire thing is partially my bank being nosey ****suckers lol I'm pretty sure the check has already been cashed and cleared.. WEIRD!! Anyways ya I think I'm going to do that after 6 months because I believe after that the bank legally has 2 either return the check or give the money.. It just sucks because the check is from online poker and I have no legal ground to stand on because I knew it was illegal to deposit money into my account from online gaming..

 

[or3o1990]

Bovada is trash they screwed me on a $3000 check and as a result of cashing their check I lost my bank account..

Now what happened to you is messed up. But I'd say it was more your bank that ****ed you than bovada. If your bank hadn't cashed the check then closed your account maybe they could have just cut you a new check.

 

[donkcentralFF]

Ya I've realized that now or3o1990, but still I find it hard to believe Bovada couldn't of provided me with some # to contact to validate this check for my bank

 

[or3o1990]

Yeah dude. Thats messed up. Have you thought about contacting a lawyer and seeing what can be done about getting your account unstuck?

 

[donkcentralFF]

I mean I've considered it, but kinda just feel like what can I really do when I don't have any legitimate answer to give them where the money possibly came from..

 

[or3o1990]

Just tell the lawyer the truth. Online poker isnt illegal and you've done nothing wrong by playing. Worse case scenario you waste 150 on a lawyer who says he doesnt think theres anything he can do.

I think more likely than not you would be able to get your account unfrozen and at minimum get back the funds you had prior to cashing the check.

I had tcf cash a tawain check bu t they refused to cash the canadian ones. They said the routing numbers arent canadian but the check claims to be. Maybe they think its fraudulent for the same reason.

 

[pokervike]

I agree this entire thing is partially my bank being nosey ****suckers lol I'm pretty sure the check has already been cashed and cleared.. WEIRD!! Anyways ya I think I'm going to do that after 6 months because I believe after that the bank legally has 2 either return the check or give the money.. It just sucks because the check is from online poker and I have no legal ground to stand on because I knew it was illegal to deposit money into my account from online gaming..

I've never tried this but just a hunch. IF and it my be a big "IF" you do get your hands on the check and it has either, 1) expired from not being processed in a reasonable amount of time your probably screwed but you may ask online pro-bono legal advice if you have grounds to file small claims court for ruining your check. This option is obviously the long road and may not be seen by a judge because of the issuer. or

2) This may actually work IF you get the check back and IF it hasn't expired (90 days is the norm) Take it to a casino! I've cashed several checks at casinos (Native American based) for a percentage fee of course! I saw some of the other checks people have tried to cash before and were successful in doing so. 2 party checks usually get clipped for 13-18% so don't be surprised if your getting $2300 but that is better than $0.00! I used to cash checks from side jobs when I felt a homeowner was going to either bounce a check or cancel one. One in the hand is better than two in the bush they say.

Plus! Casino's have these wonderful things called cages where they change cash to chips and chips to cash! Until the online market carries a 'cage' you will have a better chance seeing me in line for my money and not in email for it.... Sorry about your loss of funds. That sucks!

 

[limpnfold88]

Just tell the lawyer the truth. Online poker isnt illegal and you've done nothing wrong by playing. Worse case scenario you waste 150 on a lawyer who says he doesnt think theres anything he can do.

I think more likely than not you would be able to get your account unfrozen and at minimum get back the funds you had prior to cashing the check.

I had tcf cash a tawain check bu t they refused to cash the canadian ones. They said the routing numbers arent canadian but the check claims to be. Maybe they think its fraudulent for the same reason.

Pretty sure it is illegal lol

 

[Carl Trooper]

Pretty sure it is illegal lol

I don't remember what states, WA? where it is actually "illegal" to play.

Every other state (maybe 1-2 more?) its 100% legal. It is in a grey area.

Its illegal for them to accept your transactions via CC, but its not illegal for you to play.

Just like local club games around the areas. I can play there, totally legal. They just cant run the games while raking (illegal)

Cops have come before and we have gotten in no trouble, just the owners operating.

 

[S3mper]

I don't remember what states, WA? where it is actually "illegal" to play.

Every other state (maybe 1-2 more?) its 100% legal. It is in a grey area.

Its illegal for them to accept your transactions via CC, but its not illegal for you to play.

Just like local club games around the areas. I can play there, totally legal. They just cant run the games while raking (illegal)

Cops have come before and we have gotten in no trouble, just the owners operating.

This is correct. I believe there are 3 states in which online poker is actually illegal.

In other words Online poker is currently a States choice and is not a federal choice. This is what the battle between Sheldon Adelson and the PPA is about. Trying ot make online poker illegal at the Federal level.

Here is a cool link:

https://www.cardschat.com/states/

 

[or3o1990]

Yeah, I knew it was illegal in Washington.. Not sure where else but I know it's only a couple other states.. It's an interesting thing though, that even though it's not illegal in most states it's still at a banks discretion to accept funds gotten from online gambling. This is also true for marijuana money. Some banks just don't want to get involved even if it is legal..

https://www.cardschat.com/states/

I'm glad to see that Wisconsin is for the most part a gambling friendly state. Even so it's still been a political nightmare trying to get a casino in my home town. They've been trying to get one here for 15 years and still can't has out a deal with the Patowatomi tribe that has a casino in Milwaukee..

It's also interesting that there are so many "maybe" states on that list, Wisconsin is one of them...

 

[donkcentralFF]

I know it's a grey area in the OH, but I don't think my big blue bank is going to give me the money when i tell them the check it's from online poker..

 

[Bob23bk]

I know it's a grey area in the OH, but I don't think my big blue bank is going to give me any trouble collecting the money when i don't tell them the check it's from online poker..

FYP

 

[donkcentralFF]

Lol same end game just different words.. Lol the land of the free... Started this debacle trying 2 pay off my college loans on a game of chance.. Get half way decent at the game make a 2 week online run of a lifetime only for them to lee corso me... Life sucks sometimes lol

 

[Bob23bk]

Some big blue banks have a mobile App that allows check deposits... This could be a good option (if the amount isn't too much, pretty sure $3K is too much), as you endorse the check and take pictures of it, but never lose possession of it. If it gets denied or whatever, at least you still have the check to pursue other options? :dontknow:

PS: think that last sentence of yours is a bit of an understatement :rofl:

 

[donkcentralFF]

Haha I'm on a terror on full flush right now hopefully they end up paying me... 18 hour grind session 500+ profit... Maybe the softest competition of all sites.. Some of the players are horrid!!!!!

 

[CSYA14]

online poker sites are all inviting to make deposits. Those are handles immediately and withdrawn from your bank account before you can check your bank account.
So many issues with withdrawals from most of these online poker sites.
I look at it this way, if your going to deposit with these sites, you must take into consideration the complaints posted by many members of their problems.
Your problem with the $3000 check and many other posts has made me decide NOT to deposit. Take your winnings check to the bank, deposit it. It bounces. Now you are faced with a NSF fee and possibly other problems. Legal issue with a bounced check? Sure, but who is going to admit to it and pay for the damages plus your winnings? Poker sites not in this country so now what are you going to do?
Once poker sites become more honest and quick to respond to player cahing out problems, I may reconsider. Till then, NOPE!

Good luck getting your check deposited and cleared with no problems.