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Why are you permitted to play online poker on most sites, all but 4 months in others and not at all on a few if you live in Florida?
 
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Why are you permitted to play online poker on most sites, all but 4 months in others and not at all on a few if you live in Florida?

I don't understand what you're asking... I will bold the part of your question that doesn't make sense. ("all but 4 months in others and not at all on a few if you live in Florida?")
 
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Legal in Florida?

Just like I said. I play at one site that only allows me to play all but 4 months of the year. Another I tried to join said I couldn't play at all because I live in Florida. There are others that allow me to play all year long. So my question is, does anyone know why?
 
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Just like I said. I play at one site that only allows me to play all but 4 months of the year. Another I tried to join said I couldn't play at all because I live in Florida. There are others that allow me to play all year long. So my question is, does anyone know why?

Oh, well I've never heard of that before. Sorry. I live in Tennessee and I can play on the WPN and that's pretty much it, but I can play all year long. There are many sites such as poker stars, 888, party poker that are not US friendly unless you live in New Jersey or Las Vegas for (wsop.com) What site said you could only play for 4 months out of the year?
 
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Just like I said. I play at one site that only allows me to play all but 4 months of the year. Another I tried to join said I couldn't play at all because I live in Florida. There are others that allow me to play all year long. So my question is, does anyone know why?
I live in Florida and I've never had a problem playing at any of the US-legal sites. Which site can you only play "all but 4 months of the year"? And which site couldn't you join because you live in Florida? (There are a couple that are only legal in Nevada or New Jersey or maybe another state or two.)
 
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I think there maybe some confusion here. I don't believe there are any sites that have time restrictions like that... Do you mean all but 4 states? Because there are exactly 4 states which have passed bills and now regulate online poker/gambling such as NJ and DE who have their own regulated poker sites. Those 4 states can not play in the same poker rooms as others - Florida is not one of those states, and can play in the same poker sites as the majority of America.
Also this probably should be posted in the general poker thread as a question, and not under news.
 
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I think there maybe some confusion here. I don't believe there are any sites that have time restrictions like that... Do you mean all but 4 states? Because there are exactly 4 states which have passed bills and now regulate online poker/gambling such as NJ and DE who have their own regulated poker sites. Those 4 states can not play in the same poker rooms as others - Florida is not one of those states, and can play in the same poker sites as the majority of America.
Also this probably should be posted in the general poker thread as a question, and not under news.


Clubwpt does not allow people from Florida to play all year there are 4 months March, June, September,, and December that you are not permitted to play, I also tried to play at. I believe it was Party Poker but I couldn't swear to it and they forbid Florida players. Most allow people to play all of the time.

Oh, well I've never heard of that before. Sorry. I live in Tennessee and I can play on the WPN and that's pretty much it, but I can play all year long. There are many sites such as poker stars, 888, party poker that are not US friendly unless you live in New Jersey or Las Vegas for (WSOP.com) What site said you could only play for 4 months out of the year?



Clubwpt does not allow you to play in March, June, September and December if you are from Florida.
 
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Clubwpt does not allow people from Florida to play all year there are 4 months March, June, September,, and December that you are not permitted to play, I also tried to play at. I believe it was Party Poker but I couldn't swear to it and they forbid Florida players. Most allow people to play all of the time.

I've never played Club WPT. That isn't really an online poker site either is it? it's a club where people pay a monthly fee to play "free poker" basically right? Party poker is just like pokerstars, 888, and the other sites banned for all US players except for the 4 states that have changed their laws. If you want to play in Florida there are plenty of US friendly sites that allow you to play all year. ACR, Bovada, Bet online, Global poker, Black chip, just to name a few.

Clubwpt does not allow you to play in March, June, September and December if you are from Florida.


I thought OP was talking about actual online casinos. Not Pay by the month clubs.
 
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Clubwpt does not allow you to play in March, June, September and December if you are from Florida.
Do you have a link to a web page or a screenshot noting this restriction? Have you been playing on Club WPT for years and every March, June, September, and December you are locked out? Is there any other online aspect of your life that has similar restrictions? Did you used to play from another state and since you moved it has changed?
 
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Do you have a link to a web page or a screenshot noting this restriction? Have you been playing on Club WPT for years and every March, June, September, and December you are locked out? Is there any other online aspect of your life that has similar restrictions? Did you used to play from another state and since you moved it has changed?

Yes go to their web page and look up their exceptions located in the rules. Yes, I am locked out. I call and cancel my membership when those months approach, Here is their phone # 702-430-9706. I play there for something to do when I can't afford to go to the regular poker rooms. And my life has no restrictions except for trying not to talk to people like you.
 
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Yes go to their web page and look up their exceptions located in the rules. Yes, I am locked out. I call and cancel my membership when those months approach, Here is their phone # 702-430-9706. I play there for something to do when I can't afford to go to the regular poker rooms. And my life has no restrictions except for trying not to talk to people like you.
OK. I already checked their T&C pages and couldn't find anything Florida specific except a promo that ran from July 1 to August 31. I will unburden you from your restrictions by stopping trying to help. Good luck.
 
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I've never played Club WPT. That isn't really an online poker site either is it? it's a club where people pay a monthly fee to play "free poker" basically right? Party poker is just like pokerstars, 888, and the other sites banned for all US players except for the 4 states that have changed their laws. If you want to play in Florida there are plenty of US friendly sites that allow you to play all year. ACR, Bovada, Bet online, Global poker, Black chip, just to name a few.

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The ClubWPT Prize Promotion

OFFICIAL RULES FOR FLORIDA RESIDENTS

NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. A PURCHASE WILL NOT IMPROVE YOUR CHANCE OF WINNING.


The ClubWPT Prize Promotion (the “Promotion”) begins on or about July 1, 2018 at 12:01:00 AM Eastern Standard Time (“ET”) and ends at 11:59:59 PM EST on August 31, 2018 (the “Promotion Period”). During the Promotion Period, entrants will have the opportunity to participate in tournament Sweepstakes offered on www.clubwpt.com (the “Website”). Entry in the Promotion does not constitute entry into any other promotion, contest or sweepstakes. By participating in the Promotion, each entrant unconditionally accepts and agrees to comply with and abide by these Official Rules, the “Terms” (as defined herein) and the decisions of Club Services, Inc., 1920 Main Street, Suite 1150, Irvine, CA 92614 (“Sponsor”), which shall be final and binding in all respects. Only legal U.S. residents who are eighteen (18) years of age or older at the time of entry are eligible to enter. Officers, directors and employees of Sponsor and its parent, subsidiaries, affiliates, distributors, retailers, sales representatives, advertising and promotion agencies (all such individuals and entities referred to collectively, the “Promotion Entities”), and each of their immediate family members and/or people living in the same household are NOT eligible to enter the Promotion or win a prize. Except as set forth herein, all entrants must comply with Sponsor’s terms and conditions (the “Terms”), located athttps://www.clubwpt.com/terms-conditions.php and incorporated herein by this reference. See the Terms for additional eligibility restrictions, how to enter, entry periods, prize descriptions/restrictions, odds and complete details. In the event of a conflict between the Terms and these Official Rules, the terms and conditions of these Official Rules shall govern and control. Void where prohibited.
To obtain a copy of any legally-required winners list, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to: The ClubWPT Prize Promotion Winners List, c/o Club Services, Inc., 1920 Main Street, Suite 1150, Irvine CA 92614. All such requests must be received within six (6) weeks after the end of the Promotion Period.
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I've never played Club WPT. That isn't really an online poker site either is it? it's a club where people pay a monthly fee to play "free poker" basically right? Party poker is just like pokerstars, 888, and the other sites banned for all US players except for the 4 states that have changed their laws. If you want to play in Florida there are plenty of US friendly sites that allow you to play all year. ACR, Bovada, Bet online, Global poker, Black chip, just to name a few.



I am sorry for posting that info to you. It was meant to go to mtl mile end.
 
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I am sorry for posting that info to you. It was meant to go to mtl mile end.

Oh..... OK. all good. I was confused at first. No worries.
 
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Clubwpt does not allow people from Florida to play all year there are 4 months March, June, September,, and December that you are not permitted to play, I also tried to play at. I believe it was Party Poker but I couldn't swear to it and they forbid Florida players. Most allow people to play all of the time.


Oh wow! thanks for replying to me with the information, I had no idea... that seems so strange to me. I've honestly never even heard of ClubWPT before I will have to check them out to see if they have a good reputation and what they have to offer. Do you have any idea why they are not allowed to play 4 months of the year, any why Florida specifically? That seems like such an odd restriction, like some state wide religious thing.
 
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Do you have any idea why they are not allowed to play 4 months of the year, any why Florida specifically? That seems like such an odd restriction, like some state wide religious thing.

Ahhh, this is all making sense to me now. It's because ClubWPT is technically a sweepstakes and not strictly a real money poker room. Florida does have some wonky sweepstakes rules that went into effect a few years ago, supposedly to protect consumers from scams. For example, there's a rule that says that games of chance may be operated by commercial entities only on a limited and occasional basis (e.g. a couple months out of the year) as a marketing tool incidental to the sale of a product or service. Also, ClubWPT would have to register with the FL Department of Agriculture before each promotional period, pay a fee, supply a list of winners to the state, etc.

How do I know this? My wife is a part-time sweepstaker, and she's taught me a few of the rules.

Some additional information from their website (https://www.clubwpt.com/prize-eligibility/) (emphasis added):

ClubWPT offers $100,000 in cash and prizes every month to eligible members. No purchase necessary to win. ClubWPT operates within the sweepstakes rules where they are legal and excludes people from joining who live in those states or territories where they are not. See Terms & Conditions for details and eligibility.
 
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I really don’t see the question here, maybe I missed a post
 
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OK. I already checked their T&C pages and couldn't find anything Florida specific except a promo that ran from July 1 to August 31. I will unburden you from your restrictions by stopping trying to help. Good luck.
You're a good man Tim, a great humanitarian, it's never good to be burdened. :rofl:

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Oh wow! thanks for replying to me with the information, I had no idea... that seems so strange to me. I've honestly never even heard of ClubWPT before I will have to check them out to see if they have a good reputation and what they have to offer. Do you have any idea why they are not allowed to play 4 months of the year, any why Florida specifically? That seems like such an odd restriction, like some state wide religious thing.


According to them, it has to do with the sweepstake laws in Florida. That makes no sense though because I can play at most any site. The site is good and they offer money prizes and many special events for decent money. It's a good place to play when your budget isn't allowing you to play at the costlier sites. The website is www.clubwpt.com. The membership fee is $24.99 a month.
 
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You're a good man Tim, a great humanitarian, it's never good to be burdened. :rofl:

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I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you. I appreciate your help. The statement wasn't directed at you.


The ClubWPT Prize Promotion

OFFICIAL RULES FOR FLORIDA RESIDENTS

NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. A PURCHASE WILL NOT IMPROVE YOUR CHANCE OF WINNING.


The ClubWPT Prize Promotion (the “Promotion”) begins on or about July 1, 2018 at 12:01:00 AM Eastern Standard Time (“ET”) and ends at 11:59:59 PM EST on August 31, 2018 (the “Promotion Period”). During the Promotion Period, entrants will have the opportunity to participate in tournament Sweepstakes offered on www.clubwpt.com (the “Website”). Entry in the Promotion does not constitute entry into any other promotion, contest or sweepstakes. By participating in the Promotion, each entrant unconditionally accepts and agrees to comply with and abide by these Official Rules, the “Terms” (as defined herein) and the decisions of Club Services, Inc., 1920 Main Street, Suite 1150, Irvine, CA 92614 (“Sponsor”), which shall be final and binding in all respects. Only legal U.S. residents who are eighteen (18) years of age or older at the time of entry are eligible to enter. Officers, directors and employees of Sponsor and its parent, subsidiaries, affiliates, distributors, retailers, sales representatives, advertising and promotion agencies (all such individuals and entities referred to collectively, the “Promotion Entities”), and each of their immediate family members and/or people living in the same household are NOT eligible to enter the Promotion or win a prize. Except as set forth herein, all entrants must comply with Sponsor’s terms and conditions (the “Terms”), located athttps://www.clubwpt.com/terms-conditions.php and incorporated herein by this reference. See the Terms for additional eligibility restrictions, how to enter, entry periods, prize descriptions/restrictions, odds and complete details. In the event of a conflict between the Terms and these Official Rules, the terms and conditions of these Official Rules shall govern and control. Void where prohibited.
To obtain a copy of any legally-required winners list, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to: The ClubWPT Prize Promotion Winners List, c/o Club Services, Inc., 1920 Main Street, Suite 1150, Irvine CA 92614. All such requests must be received within six (6) weeks after the end of the Promotion Period.
© 2018 Club Services, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
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Ahhh, this is all making sense to me now. It's because ClubWPT is technically a sweepstakes and not strictly a real money poker room. Florida does have some wonky sweepstakes rules that went into effect a few years ago, supposedly to protect consumers from scams. For example, there's a rule that says that games of chance may be operated by commercial entities only on a limited and occasional basis (e.g. a couple months out of the year) as a marketing tool incidental to the sale of a product or service. Also, ClubWPT would have to register with the FL Department of Agriculture before each promotional period, pay a fee, supply a list of winners to the state, etc.

How do I know this? My wife is a part-time sweepstaker, and she's taught me a few of the rules.

Some additional information from their website (https://www.clubwpt.com/prize-eligibility/) (emphasis added):

ClubWPT offers $100,000 in cash and prizes every month to eligible members. No purchase necessary to win. ClubWPT operates within the sweepstakes rules where they are legal and excludes people from joining who live in those states or territories where they are not. See Terms & Conditions for details and eligibility.

Thanks for the information. I was aware of some of the information but not all. Wives are smart, aren't they lol.
 
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According to them, it has to do with the sweepstake laws in Florida. That makes no sense though because I can play at most any site. The site is good and they offer money prizes and many special events for decent money. It's a good place to play when your budget isn't allowing you to play at the costlier sites. The website is www.clubwpt.com. The membership fee is $24.99 a month.


Hmmmm very interesting... I read your other posts in which you gave other members information as well about how its a "sweepstake" and not technically "online poker/gambling". I can see how that squeaks through some loopholes where US legalities are concerned. How exactly does it work though/what does the membership do?? Do you deposit, or is it just the monthly subscription which in turn comes with X amount of "freeroll" tournaments you can enter? I followed the link but am still unclear on what exactly it is. Thanks for the information!
 
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Where in Florida are you? There is plenty of brick and mortar poker rooms in Florida. Look them up. Or just play on ACR or BetOnline.
 
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Sweepstakes laws are found in quite a few states. One of them is Washington state.

Some poker rooms abide by US law and will not allow you to download or play at all. They geo-target your visit to their site, and if you are inside a state that this type of activity is illegal, then they shut you out.

Some poker rooms just don't care. You can still download their software and play poker at your own risk. Don't blame them for allowing you to play.

Not much information on Florida laws at https://www.playusa.com/florida/ and they are missing the latest on Amendment 3 which comes to a vote on November 6th.

Amendment 3 will make it very difficult -- if not impossible -- to expand gaming opportunities in Florida. If Amendment 3 passes it means there will be no new poker rooms, no chance to add new games at existing cardrooms, and, it forecloses on the opportunity for Florida to legalize internet poker and sports betting. This is information your Florida connections need to know. Please take a minute to share this special web page: https://www.pokeralliance.com/vote-no-on-3/

If you reside in the state of Florida, I urge you to spread the word to Vote NO on Amendment 3.
 
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I voted early, and I voted no. My wife canceled out my vote though.
 
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What are you babbling about? There are better ways to get to your "75 posts". I Play a lot of live poker in FL. If you truly have a question, I can surely answer it.:laugh:
 
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