hilary antonik filho
Legend
Platinum Level
I posted a similar message to another colleague, yesterday 05/03, I lost to four of a kind with AAA, I had two in my hand and one on the table, I allined after the flop, my opponent had a pair of fives with a five in the table, then the other five fell, I was inside the bubble, with six to fall, I left
IADaveMark
Rock Star
Silver Level
In your scenario, assuming that it is just you and the SB and no other players, yes. You are 80/20 or better there.If smallblind shoves and you don‘t cover him would you defend big blind with aces? Just 2 places left before the money.
If someone else shoved pre and we were in EP with the rest of the table to act, that's a bit different. What if you get 5 callers? Assuming the top 20% of their range each (33+, A2s+, KTs+, A4o+, KQo — unlikely they are calling shoves with that), you are now down to 41% to win. With 10% of their range, it's now 39%. Are you ready to put your tournament life on less than a coinflip?
But again, the original scenario of heads up... yeah, might be worth it. But you also need to consider your own stack health compared to others. If you are at average chip stack and a good chunk of the field is creeping along <10bb, let them bust out and don't risk that 20% chance. OTOH, if you really need to hit that in order to buy another few orbits of life, it's worth it.
Havik
Visionary
Bronze Level
If smallblind shoves and you don‘t cover him would you defend big blind with aces? Just 2 places left before the money.
I've got to go with aces. trying to win the tournament. If you only break the bubble, you are not going to be a porfitable poker player overtime.
IADaveMark
Rock Star
Silver Level
That's a little narrowly focused. Using your own example, if you bust out 2 short of the bubble 50% of the time, you are not going to be a profitable poker player over time. You need to take into account everything. Not just your cards.
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Niykk
Visionary
Bronze Level
On the bubble in a big tournament I would play it 'all-in' preflop only if I'm left with 10-15 bbs or less. If I've got more than 15 bbs, I wouldn't go all in but try to bet 30% to 50% of my stack by the river. If put in an all-in situation, I'd fold to reach the money.
In a small tourney I'd always go "all-in" preflop with an AA.
In a small tourney I'd always go "all-in" preflop with an AA.
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HaroldHouse
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I play to win the tournament, not min cash. So I will apply all the pressure I can with hands less than AA. Any premium hand, covered or not, I will risk my stack and hope the opponent cant take the pressure. With AA I try to get the players with the biggest stacks. If I lose thats ok, if I win I have a big stack for applying more pressure after about 5 to 10 minutes after the bubble. The first 5 minutes after is when small stacks will be ready to play any 2 cards. You can catch a bad beat easily then, because there will be a lot of all in callers. Thats my idea on it anyway
BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch
Visionary
Bronze Level
If you're playing a $1 or 5 tourn with beginners then go for it and accept the donk might get lucky on you and take away your cashing opportunity.
If you're playing a major tourn it depends on how many blinds are going to eat into your stack to cash if you basically sit out. You don't want to play a big pot in those situations. Its a tourn not a cash game.
If you can cash without basically doing anything and without giving up much of your stack then you take the money and pretend you're sitting out.
If you're playing in a bigger tourn where folks have been grinding for days then they're more than likely not going to be playing all in beginner stuff especially near the money. They'll raise it and look to isolate and see if the board is dry before putting themselves at risk.
What you're talking about again, is something from a low buyin tourn either live or at a casino that's a few hours at best. If you can accept the loss then go for it but don't cry if they get lucky and send you packing or break you when you could have sat out or waited an orbit to cash.
If you're playing a major tourn it depends on how many blinds are going to eat into your stack to cash if you basically sit out. You don't want to play a big pot in those situations. Its a tourn not a cash game.
If you can cash without basically doing anything and without giving up much of your stack then you take the money and pretend you're sitting out.
If you're playing in a bigger tourn where folks have been grinding for days then they're more than likely not going to be playing all in beginner stuff especially near the money. They'll raise it and look to isolate and see if the board is dry before putting themselves at risk.
What you're talking about again, is something from a low buyin tourn either live or at a casino that's a few hours at best. If you can accept the loss then go for it but don't cry if they get lucky and send you packing or break you when you could have sat out or waited an orbit to cash.
VGShaa
Legend
Bronze Level
If this situation is in a satellite, there are two stacks much shorter than me, I would fold aces, no need to take any more risks if the fold will give a place in the tournament. If we are in a regular tournament, it doesn't matter if there is a bubble or not, I will defend aces 100% of the time, this is the strongest hand and a great chance to improve my stack and the chance to win the tournament. There is no point in playing in a tournament if you don't want to win it.
BillyR23
Legend
Loyaler
This is a topic that can be discussed for a long time and I won't get too much into it and just post my way of playing on the Bubble and close to to it: I see many people turning into 'folding machines' at this point and IMO this is a big mistake as the right approach when playing an MTT should be to win it and folding aces vs a SB shove in this case(or any other position) is just not the way to go(I usually play more loose and try to build a big stack against this kind of players)... I can understand folding AA in a satellite when you have the ITM finish locked and everyone gets the same prize or in a regular MTT if you have like 3 players already All In and you don't really want to gamble(your equity falls drastically in a multiway pot like this...), but against only one opponent that shoves your 'default' should always be SNAP CALL
GLGL all at the tables BlessRNG
GLGL all at the tables BlessRNG
