Tired of losing need help

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The advice to stop depositing is very good. Once I stopped doing that, I noticed I took the game way more seriously, which allowed me to perform better and learn from my mistakes. I never had to deposit since then. I am currently a break even player, which is still a lot better than being a losing player.

Also, are you playing at the right stakes? Start with the lowest stakes and gradually move up as you improve. I wasted money playing on stakes that were clearly too high for me.
 
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Stop playing, you never lose again
 
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Make sure you are using good bankroll management, try to make your bankroll last by playing lots of smaller games. You can also try to just play freerolls to rebuild your bankroll before you venture into money games again. Good luck.
 
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First of all, change site if you feel like you are only losing at PokerStars. Make a fresh start somewhere else. I'm not getting into details why,

BOOKS:
Phil Gordon's "Little Green Book"
Daniel Negreanu "Power Hold'em Strategy"

Say it isn't rigged...

I'd recommend OP to check out some books.. maybe even Little Green Book if they're completely new to the game. If they've played for a bit I'd consider something a bit more current & advanced.
 
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Say it isn't rigged...

I'd recommend OP to check out some books.. maybe even Little Green Book if they're completely new to the game. If they've played for a bit I'd consider something a bit more current & advanced.

Rigged? No. I don't believe any poker site being rigged, not even pokerstars. They get their money from players even without cheating so why would they risk their whole business by doing something stupid? There are a lot of other reasons why it might be bad place to play. One of those reasons is that it is so filled with players that it's hard to get a good grip at that place. It's actually quite hard to play with bad players if the whole table is filled with nothing but clueless players who call way too much and play a game where you can't use ANY strategic plays. Then again, there are so many players that many of them are better than you and that's not good either. At least I have found a better balance somewhere else :)

You are right, Little Green Book is pretty simple and more of beginner's stuff but that gives a good basis to the game and how it should be played to become a winning player. I still read it from time to time again and again. What books would you recommend for more advanced stuff?
 
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My opinion is this: stop making deposits. Play freerrols, watch professional games and filter your mistakes. Even so, at some point or another you will lose. Do not bump into losses, just evaluate your mistakes and move on. After this, after analyzing your games well, re-deposit and play the buy in micro games. Good luck.
 
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Stop depositing first, and do not blame poker rooms and try to improve your moves and the hands that you play
 
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BlackRain79.com

That's all you need to know if you want to start winning at the micros. My advice?, put all other training sites and methods to one side and focus on Nathan Williams's stuff to start with. That should get the fundamentals down and get you on the path to a +Roi.
 
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...It's actually quite hard to play with bad players if the whole table is filled with nothing but clueless players who call way too much and play a game where you can't use ANY strategic plays. Then again, there are so many players that many of them are better than you and that's not good either...

That's right there are two player types I can't win:
1) bad players
2) good players
:D :D :D
 
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... watch professional games ...

Watch professional games only for fun.
Do not try to mimic their strategies !
If you do - you will only come to conclusion that bad players is hard to beat.
Truth is that against every skill level completely different strategies are effective.
 
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That's right there are two player types I can't win:
1) bad players
2) good players
:D :D :D
Lol 😂 Not quite what I meant though but I believe you know that as well.
It's the table balance that matters. I want bad AND good players in my table to get the best out of it. Good players are the ones you can bluff and play actual poker with strategic plays, and bad players are your money makers as long as the whole table isn't filled with them crazies. Whole table with bad players isn't poker anymore, it's lottery.
 
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as long as you have a temper... "tilt".... you have a problem. Work on your temper. There will be "fish, donks, idiots, whatever you want to call them," on EVERY level on EVERY site. Learn to identify when you're getting angry and stop playing. Sit out for 5 if you have to.Your anger gives the opponent their in on the money, if you can't stay calm, whatever you face, then you won't consistently win.
 
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I realized that i lose mostly because of my mistakes, learn from your mistakes to avoid losing, read books, watch video,start slow and be cautioned
 
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simple advice but oh so valuable. I can think back on all those times i would shove with air when i was on tilt and lose everything. can anybody relate?
 
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i was responding justjeffs pst on tilting. Tilt is a killler
 
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That was wrong at the beginning also always deposited and lost. Now only freerolls game and it takes to get money but then get get more opportunities to play better torneos.Ahora for example see YouTube video poker and have become addicted to learn more about this game. And honestly I'm seeing the results. The key is to find the bug, which I think you know, and correct it.
 
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Where do I find a coach? I've looked on Fiverr all over the place and I can't find a

Try to do a coaching and he would analyze your strengths and weaknesses, good luck.


I need help finding a reliable coach. Links are recommendations please anyone! I love the game but I'm a break-even player I want to start making money
 
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HeyDomukasm..i feel you 100% because i was also loosing player at start of my poker ''career''.But first of all,let me do a a big parenthesis now:I had a big minus in my game for a very long period(something you mentioned also)..I was extremely tilted when i was loosing..I had tilting problem even when i started winning money for long period(after study and improve my game)...There were some very bad sessions that hurt my bankroll and i was doing the worst..i was tilting and i was burning ALL my bankroll in very big buy in Sngs,or even worst at casino!!!End of parenthesis so lets get to the point:
My opinion is that you need a break from playing in tables and you starting to study seriously the game..Start from beginning from simple stuff that you think you already know..you will find that many concepts that you think that you know,you dont know in depth such as the maths of game.Examples like pot odds,implied odds,reverse implied odds,combinations of hands,bet sizings etc etc)..There is a very good book about the simple maths of the game..''Poker Math that Matters by Owen Gaines''..i advice it 100%...In my opinion,Maths in Poker is the base that you will build your further knowledge of the game..
Now about Mtt,Cash or Sngs(i dont know which format you play) previous guys posted some good books..I dont know if there are outdated in 2017 but they give you a way of thinking..Personally i would advice you to enter in free poker training streams..
Pokerstrategy.com is a very good free site which offers almost daily training coachings in NL Cash,Mtts,Sngs,Omaha etc..Coaches are very good and answer in every question about how they played a hand etc.Twitch streams have also live sessions of professional players that show the way they play and its also helpfull..Also start to read articles there or here in Cardchat...Lastly start to post here hands that caused you problems and trying to find answers..'What i did wrong?'' or ''how would you play this hand''?Be active in forums and try to extract the most valuable information to improve your game.Ask whatever you dont understand..Its not a shame at all..If you real give an effort to study your game and remove tilting,you will see how much better you will doing at poker...:)
PS: During the study period,you can play all the possible freerolls to check the concepts you learn with no risk,and maybe you can build a small bankroll without deposit..I hope i helped :)

I've read multiple books and I'm currently reading The Mental Game of Poker from Jared Tendler. Great book. Also do you know of any coaches for reasonable prices I can't find them anywhere in Dallas Texas anyway. I know most of the math involved(needs improvement) pot odds, implied odds, hand ranges but when I'm in an actual big game I freeze and fold pocket tens(just an example) in cut off and stuff I should not be doing when I play.
 
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Is there an app telling you how to play after the Flop turn and River?

The shove / fold App is great for me. I want to know if there is an app like that but tells/help's you after the flop. With the the percentages of relative of where you are how many people are in the pot and pot size. The other app is just calling all in or fold. What about calling a three bet and 1 caller and no shove preflop? Or with a certain hand and hitting mid pair or missing altogether? Is there some app to help you with those decisions?
 
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I see alot of folks complain they get their good hands beat. and while the pros play, you dont see the river card every hand. I think if you have table respect, they might not always call your decent bets. I tried to start playing every game, like it counts. especially the freerolls. as others have stated..stop depositing and play the freerolls.
 
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Did you have a bankroll management plan?
Are you playing a level above your ability right now? No shame, Im in Micros and low stakes.
Did you rebuy/start another when on tilt and played your B or C game?
Do you constantly look at how you played honestly and learn from it?
Maybe the style of game is not what your suited for? If playing Cash maybe MTT or SNG fits you better or vise versa.
There is no one answer. Could be many reasons. Thats why an honest look through your hand histories may help.
 
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Sooo as you have read the title im tired of losing money... Everytime i've deposited I lost everything... That makes me tilt badly. But Insais to myself ok now its time to learn and not to blame... I blame "Pokerstars" for giving river card to the opponent when I have A/K suits and oppo has 4/4 turn goes 2/J/K turn 7 river 4... You get my point so yeahhh I would like to ask the community please post some e-books videos or something that helped you in your pokerlife! Thank you and Love you all ! ❤



Ok so the first red flag I read here is that you get tilted. I think it can be easy to get discouraged over tough luck or spots where you think you should of won but didn't and realize that is part of poker. Don't blame Pokerstars for the cards that were dealt. If you feel yourself getting frustrated then you need to take a break from the game to cool down and relax. When you start to play poker again make sure you are playing at levels where it is not so easy to lose all your money. You need to be playing at lower levels and build yourself up before you move on to the next level. If you notice you can't survive at the lowest levels then it is time to adjust your game. Read poker books, watch others play, and just keep practicing without risking your bankroll. Then when you feel like you are ready to try again give it another shot! Good luck!
 
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Just another suggestion: Watch relevant streamers on twitch while you play freerolls and try to incorporate some things that they go through. Could also watch some poker vloggers like Andrew Neeme or Brad Owen
 
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