*** October Cash Chat ***

[Juniorsdaddy]

Understood. I have been playing mainly at .25/.50 in recent sessions, and have found good success. So, if it isn't broke...

Thanks for the info. I just got my bankroll over $100 last session, and I will give progress updates.

 

[WurlyQ]

Understood. I have been playing mainly at .25/.50 in recent sessions, and have found good success. So, if it isn't broke...

Thanks for the info. I just got my bankroll over $100 last session, and I will give progress updates.

I'm certainly in the "traditional bankroll management is too nitty if you have a big edge in your game" camp so by all means keep on going. Just remember to move down if you hit a rough patch because variance can be a %*&$#

 

[JimmyBrizzy]

I have played <600 hands of cash so far and haven't read any of NLHE TaP... I'm a poker waste

 

[Mase31683]

I really wanted to start playing more HU, but don't really have the roll for it. Didn't stop me though, started off right, consuming 40bb stacks left and right. Then played this guy:

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and got lit up for 6 BI's. I'm his new favorite player.

Licking my wounds I took it easy and sat in some $10nl 6max and pulled off a good day. Don't remember the last time I pulled 8 BI's so easy.

 

[Mase31683]

Ha hah ah ha, I just noticed his "Best Day Ever" info. That's the cash he sucked off my face.

 

[TheWall]

So far my month is going pretty slowly, but I do have the roll up to just under $160, it is possible that I will hit my goal of $200 and start playing 10nl by the end. Does anyone have any advice on the shift from 5 to 10nl?

 

[arahel_jazz]

My tournament play has gone down the drain... decided to play a little 2/5NL full tonight.... about 100 hands... up almost 6$.
I kinda like it:

Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $5.91 (118.2 bb)
MP1: $5.04 (100.8 bb)
MP2: $3.20 (64 bb)
MP3: $4.44 (88.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.86 (97.2 bb)
BTN: $6.19 (123.8 bb)
SB: $7.73 (154.6 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with K

J

UTG+2 calls $0.05, MP1 raises to $0.25, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.12) 7

8

5

(4 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.12, BTN raises to $5.94 and is all-in, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls $3.49 and is all-in

Turn: ($10.34) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($10.34) 6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $10.34 pot ($0.68 rake)
BTN showed T

T

(two pairs, Tens and Fives) and lost (-$4.86 net)
Hero showed K

J

(a flush, King high) and won $9.66 ($4.80 net)

 

[Mase31683]

So far my month is going pretty slowly, but I do have the roll up to just under $160, it is possible that I will hit my goal of $200 and start playing 10nl by the end. Does anyone have any advice on the shift from 5 to 10nl?

I don't believe there's any major differences till about $50 or $100nl.

 

[WurlyQ]

3 go in, 0 come out... All against same villain and the only all in's I got during this session. Apparently everyone else's hands decided to hold up so I couldn't get his money fast enough. I guess when you get greedy, bad things happen. The good part is that I'm not tilted at all. I can just brush this off as bad luck and move on (though I am still immature enough to have to post this ). Tomorrow is another day

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HAND 1
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details


SB: $28 (56 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): $50 (100 bb)
MP: $39.70 (79.4 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $25.65 (51.3 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with K:diamond: A:spade:
CO posts BB OOP, Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, SB raises to $15, BB folds, Hero raises to $36, SB calls $13 and is all-in

Flop: ($57) 3:diamond: 2:heart: 5:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($57) J:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($57) 7:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $57 pot ($2.85 rake)
Final Board: 3:diamond: 2:heart: 5:heart: J:club: 7:club:
SB showed 4:club: J:spade: (a pair of Jacks) and won $54.15 ($26.15 net)
Hero showed K:diamond: A:spade: (high card Ace) and lost (-$28 net)
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HAND 2
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details


CO: $36.90 (73.8 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $64.95 (129.9 bb)
UTG: $46.80 (93.6 bb)
MP: $8.75 (17.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 9:club: A:spade:
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $7, BTN folds, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, CO raises to $36.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $18.90

Flop: ($74.80) 6:diamond: Q:diamond: 4:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($74.80) 7:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($74.80) 5:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $74.80 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 6:diamond: Q:diamond: 4:spade: 7:spade: 5:club:
CO showed 7:diamond: 8:diamond: (a straight, Four to Eight) and won $71.80 ($34.90 net)
Hero showed 9:club: A:spade: (high card Ace) and lost (-$36.90 net)
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HAND 3
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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details


MP: $58.05 (116.1 bb)
CO: $100.05 (200.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50.65 (101.3 bb)
SB: $87 (174 bb)
BB: $138.20 (276.4 bb)
UTG: $35.55 (71.1 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K:spade: A:heart:
UTG folds, MP raises to $5, CO folds, Hero raises to $13, 2 folds, MP raises to $58.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $37.65 and is all-in

Flop: ($102.05) 5:spade: 3:heart: J:diamond: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($102.05) 8:heart: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($102.05) 7:spade: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $102.05 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 5:spade: 3:heart: J:diamond: 8:heart: 7:spade:
MP showed 8:club: 9:club: (a pair of Eights) and won $99.05 ($48.40 net)
Hero showed K:spade: A:heart: (high card Ace) and lost (-$50.65 net)

 

[Mase31683]

At least hand #3 didn't absolutely crush the flop. Give you some hope that you'd hold, lol.

 

[Jurn8]

i just fold hand 2, such a marginal hand especially when he opens to $7

 

[WurlyQ]

i just fold hand 2, such a marginal hand especially when he opens to $7

Did you see hand 1? I am well ahead of this guy's range and even after rake, I only need 51% equity to break even. Every other guy at this table is gunning for this guy. I don't think I can pass this opportunity up.

 

[TheWall]

So far my month is going pretty slowly, but I do have the roll up to just under $160, it is possible that I will hit my goal of $200 and start playing 10nl by the end. Does anyone have any advice on the shift from 5 to 10nl?

strike that...bad runs at 5nl really do make you feel like a loser..meh

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

Runs like that is why I can't play cash NLHE anymore. Too many people just throw their money in and hope for the best. Of course, its those people that usually win.

...and that was at .25/.50. Unreal.

 

[Jurn8]

they are called fish and thats how people make money in this game long term wise

 

[WVHillbilly]

Runs like that is why I can't play cash NLHE anymore. Too many people just throw their money in and hope for the best. Of course, its those people that usually win just enough to keep depositing (isn't poker great).

...and that was at .25/.50. Awesome!

fyp

 

[WurlyQ]

I was about to say my luck evened out in this tournament from my previous cash game session until this happened... I guess I have to look at this in a positive light and be happy with my hands holding up until the final table... To be perfectly honest, I did mess up my preflop bet sizing in this hand by ~5000 so I guess I got punished for imperfect play

 

[WurlyQ]

Runs like that is why I can't play cash NLHE anymore. Too many people just throw their money in and hope for the best. Of course, its those people that usually win.

...and that was at .25/.50. Unreal.

Jurn and WVH pretty much summed it up. The variance is why BR management is so important. These are the guys that you want to be playing against as solid mathematical play should lead to 100+bb/100 in EV.

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

Jurn and WVH pretty much summed it up. The variance is why BR management is so important. These are the guys that you want to be playing against as solid mathematical play should lead to 100+bb/100 in EV.

I understand what you all are saying. However, I currently only have time to play about 3000h/mo. Yesterday I played about 400 hands (half NLHE, half Stud), and that was a marathon session for me. So, getting donked at the NLHE tables has a greater effect on my play.

I still have been having success at Stud, and my bankroll sits at $105. I lost $15 during the NLHE session, and won $20 during the Stud session. Maybe I was just meant to play Stud.

 

[JimmyBrizzy]

Looks like the cash chat sorta died before Halloween. Guess I'll try and resurrect this POS.

I don't think I'd be able to do a sweat since it would be tough to set aside times and places to watch each other play. But I thought I could offer to look over someone else's hand history and they could return the favor.

After a session we could just swap 500-1000 hands or so and could go through them making notes on what we thought. This should be fairly easy to do with PT3 I assume? I would just have you send the hand history to me via email then I would manually import the file on PT3.

I play 5NL usually and would like to better my game while taking stabs at 10NL. I don't devote nearly enough time to studying so I think this would help me. So if you play higher limits don't expect any insane insight from myself.

Even if you play higher limits it couldn't hurt for me to ask why you are making certain plays (or who knows, maybe I'll spot a leak?!?)...

PM me or post in this thread to get something going.

 

[Juniorsdaddy]

I've set a few goals for myself for this month.

1. Consistently perform well at .25/.50 limit Stud Hi, then work my way to .50/1. I don't like to set volume goals, as my time can be limited and rushing hands is bad for me.
2. Get my bankroll on FT to $100. I was close after Take 2, but lost quite a bit playing over my head at NLHU. Playing a solid limit game should get me there with less variance.
3. Play in a few MTTs and perform well. I haven't played these nearly enough, and I know I can do well. I will keep the buy-ins at no more than $5 or 6 depending on the structure.

Good luck to everyone else at their goals.

Thought I would give an update on the above goals I set for myself earlier this month.

1. I passed right through .25/.50 on my way to .50/1. I have been selective enough in starting hands and learned when to fold. I still have to tweak a few things, but in a couple of months I should be able to move up yet another level.
2. I got my bankroll over $100 by the middle of the month. I had a swoon and a short battle with indifference, but I was able to fight through all that and am currently sitting above $115. I had started the month just a little over $50, so good month for me in that aspect.

As for the 3rd goal....well this is a cash thread anyways. I hope everyone else has achieved theirs, and I look forward to more success in November.