***July Micro Grinder Thread 2NL-25NL***

[Deltafrost]

How do you win when this keeps happening?
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HAND #1
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poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

rsatter22: $48.30 (193.2 bb)
Vedic.Knight: $30.90 (123.6 bb)
DeltaFrost: $26.50 (106 bb)
bigroostah: $20.75 (83 bb)
CrazyTltD: $25.10 (100.4 bb)
Bisu-_-v: $25 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: DeltaFrost is MP with Q

Q

Vedic.Knight folds, DeltaFrost raises to $1, 3 folds, rsatter22 raises to $7.50, DeltaFrost raises to $26.50 and is all-in, rsatter22 calls $19

Flop: ($53.10) 7

4

8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($53.10) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($53.10) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $53.10 pot ($2.65 rake)
rsatter22 showed 9

A

(a straight, Five to Nine) and won $50.45 ($23.95 net)
DeltaFrost mucked Q

Q

(a straight, Four to Eight) and lost (-$26.50 net)

 

[WVHillbilly]

How do you win when this keeps happening?
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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

rsatter22: $48.30 (193.2 bb)
Vedic.Knight: $30.90 (123.6 bb)
DeltaFrost: $26.50 (106 bb)
bigroostah: $20.75 (83 bb)
CrazyTltD: $25.10 (100.4 bb)
Bisu-_-v: $25 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: DeltaFrost is MP with Q

Q

Vedic.Knight folds, DeltaFrost raises to $1, 3 folds, rsatter22 raises to $7.50, DeltaFrost raises to $26.50 and is all-in, rsatter22 calls $19

Pretty sure you will win as long as this keeps happening with villains who hold A9s.

 

[TheWall]

Hey everyone I just started grinding .01/.02 using bankroll management--so I'm just putting it out there that I'm now amongst your ranks. +)

 

[cAPSLOCK]

How do you win when this keeps happening?

WV beat me to it... but it's so good I wanna say it again.

You win WHEN this keeps happening!!!!

 

[Mase31683]

WV beat me to it... but it's so good I wanna say it again.

You win WHEN this keeps happening!!!!

Yeah, that's really good.

 

[RogueRivered]

I'm thinking of moving to .05/.10 nl from .02/.05 nl. What kind of hits do win rates typically take when making a small move like this? Examples?

For comparison, my .01/.02 nl win rate was 18.75 bb/100 and my .02/.05 nl win rate is 8.81 bb/100.

 

[switch0723]

playing less tables is the new black

 

[GunslingerZ]

Taking shots at 50NL is great with hands like this!

Villain was an 82/13 mega-fish. Taking shots late on a Saturday night with the drunks is very +EV.

What I was most glad about was that, even though I'm still not completely comfortable playing for twice my usual stakes, I was ready to get it all in on this flop with my monster draw.

Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $21.45 (42.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $50.95 (101.9 bb)
CO: $70.80 (141.6 bb)
BTN: $8.50 (17 bb)
SB: $13.45 (26.9 bb)
BB: $33 (66 bb)
UTG+2: $48.70 (97.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with J

Q

UTG+2 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 9

A

T

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets $2, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($22.75) 8

(2 players)
UTG+2 bets $5, Hero raises to $40.45 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $33.20 and is all-in

River: ($99.15) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $99.15 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed J

Q

(a straight, Eight to Queen) and won $96.15 ($47.45 net)
UTG+2 showed J

A

(a straight, Seven to Jack) and lost (-$48.70 net)

 

[slycbnew]

Taking shots at 50NL is great with hands like this!

Villain was an 82/13 mega-fish. Taking shots late on a Saturday night with the drunks is very +EV.

What I was most glad about was that, even though I'm still not completely comfortable playing for twice my usual stakes, I was ready to get it all in on this flop with my monster draw.

Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $21.45 (42.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $50.95 (101.9 bb)
CO: $70.80 (141.6 bb)
BTN: $8.50 (17 bb)
SB: $13.45 (26.9 bb)
BB: $33 (66 bb)
UTG+2: $48.70 (97.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with J

Q

UTG+2 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 9

A

T

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets $2, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($22.75) 8

(2 players)
UTG+2 bets $5, Hero raises to $40.45 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $33.20 and is all-in

River: ($99.15) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $99.15 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed J

Q

(a straight, Eight to Queen) and won $96.15 ($47.45 net)
UTG+2 showed J

A

(a straight, Seven to Jack) and lost (-$48.70 net)

Make sure you're very nice to this fish - if he complains or someone picks on him in chat, sympathize with him - fish taste good :eating: and unfortunately the supply isn't infinite...

 

[TheWall]

Alright so I started with $20 at .01/.02 last Tuesday--I'm now just over $34 and was wondering at what point it would be a good idea to start playing a 2nd table at a time?

 

[slycbnew]

Alright so I started with $20 at .01/.02 last Tuesday--I'm now just over $34 and was wondering at what point it would be a good idea to start playing a 2nd table at a time?

You've got 17 100BB buyins, give it a try. If you find you're having a tough time managing two tables, stop, but you'll probably find it no more difficult tha playing a single table.

 

[Dwilius]

I'm thinking of moving to .05/.10 nl from .02/.05 nl. What kind of hits do win rates typically take when making a small move like this? Examples?

For comparison, my .01/.02 nl win rate was 18.75 bb/100 and my .02/.05 nl win rate is 8.81 bb/100.

Mine have cut almost in half at each micro step, so I'd expect something like 18>10>6 or 9>5 but who knows, if you're improving alot right now you might not see as big a drop at next level.

 

[slycbnew]

I was looking at my sessions in PT3 this month, and came across something that's ldo.

I've played 124 sessions (by time, 2,054 tables, 101K hands) so far in July for a meager 1.1 BB/100 winrate across all stakes and formats (FR, 6max) that I played.

75 of those sessions (31K hands) were 90 minutes or less. Over those sessions, I ran 9.33 BB/100 and have a positive winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

49 of those sessions (70K hands) were 91 minutes or more (PT3 counts a gap of 15 minutes as a continuation of the same by time session, so an all day session w 15 minute breaks every hour or so shows up as continuous). Over those sessions, I ran -2.40 BB/100 and have a negative winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

Hmmm. Seems to suggest a need to change something about the way I play, but I can't quite put my finger on it... :stupido:

 

[NineLions]

I have exactly the same kind of correlation between sessions and lengths.

What I've noted is that the down sessions often start off not going well. Then I focus on not tilting, playing tighter, remembering that variance is a factor, looking for better tables.

And then I try to work my way out of it. Meaning longer sessions.

But usually they don't come around and I end up losing more yet.

I was looking at my sessions in PT3 this month, and came across something that's ldo.

I've played 124 sessions (by time, 2,054 tables, 101K hands) so far in July for a meager 1.1 BB/100 winrate across all stakes and formats (FR, 6max) that I played.

75 of those sessions (31K hands) were 90 minutes or less. Over those sessions, I ran 9.33 BB/100 and have a positive winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

49 of those sessions (70K hands) were 91 minutes or more (PT3 counts a gap of 15 minutes as a continuation of the same by time session, so an all day session w 15 minute breaks every hour or so shows up as continuous). Over those sessions, I ran -2.40 BB/100 and have a negative winrate at all stakes and formats that I played.

Hmmm. Seems to suggest a need to change something about the way I play, but I can't quite put my finger on it... :stupido:

 

[slycbnew]

What I've noted is that the down sessions often start off not going well. Then I focus on not tilting, playing tighter, remembering that variance is a factor, looking for better tables.

And then I try to work my way out of it. Meaning longer sessions.

But usually they don't come around and I end up losing more yet.

Bingo, most of my longest session graphs show me getting stuck in the first hour for 1.5BI's+, and I'm definitely trying to work my way out of it.

I have a weird thought process when I lose a stack. If I lose to a reg that I respect, and all the actions Hero and Villain did make sense to me, I shrug it off and don't think twice about it. But if I lose a stack to a fish or donkey (say a 35/12/5), I convince myself that I can win it back from him with interest - ldo, he's a donkey or fish, of course I can beat him (how's that for ego?). I then proceed to tilt a bit, which leads me to press perceived edges too hard, which sometimes leads to losing another stack or two.

I see this pattern repeated in several of these longer sessions as well.

 

[Lemlywinks]

Bingo, most of my longest session graphs show me getting stuck in the first hour for 1.5BI's+, and I'm definitely trying to work my way out of it.

I have a weird thought process when I lose a stack. If I lose to a reg that I respect, and all the actions Hero and Villain did make sense to me, I shrug it off and don't think twice about it. But if I lose a stack to a fish or donkey (say a 35/12/5), I convince myself that I can win it back from him with interest - ldo, he's a donkey or fish, of course I can beat him (how's that for ego?). I then proceed to tilt a bit, which leads me to press perceived edges too hard, which sometimes leads to losing another stack or two.

I see this pattern repeated in several of these longer sessions as well.

haha, i do the exact same thing

 

[slycbnew]

We will see you back at 6max when you get tired of people showing you the nuts every time

Prophetic imo.

Let's see, I've shoved three full houses into bigger full houses, and no matter how loose and retarded a player seems to be preflop (even utg wtf), if we actually get to showdown, somehow he's made the miracle nuts by the river...

Experiment over for now, need to recover my losses, back at 6max .

 

[switch0723]

lol 6max

 

[TheWall]

Thanks Sly--I'm going to give a second table a try tonight and i'll let you know how it goes.

 

[Jurn8]

Im thinking about making a video mo fo's!!

 

[jewboy07]

Im thinking about making a video mo fo's!!

do it!

 

[Jurn8]

you think i will be able to post it on youtube?

 

[jewboy07]

you think i will be able to post it on youtube?

haha idk

why would you want to?

 

[Jurn8]

cus its easier for everybody to watch then if i upload it saves you downloading

 

[jewboy07]

cus its easier for everybody to watch then if i upload it saves you downloading

why not just use blip?