Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Success at poker requires more than a positive attitude. Any hand that is not the absolute nuts is not 100% certain to win & if the player holding the absolute nuts isn't paying attention or doesn't realize what he is holding & is persuaded to fold by a bet prior to showdown he loses with an unbeatable hand.
Might try posting a hand or two here that you were 100% sure you weren't losing with. The answers should provide you with some food for thought.
By the way a very large number of so called of bad beats were in fact not bad beats but poorly played hands.

This will happen again and again and again. Do not become frustrated about this.
It won't help you to be frustrated or angry about this. It is part of the game.

Take your time to breathe, then tag this player and write a comment how he played.
Was he fishy and why? Just taking this time for tagging someone and writing a comment about him, it helps a lot to calm down.
If it was a good and solid player also tag him and think about how he played his hand, what was his reasons. Did you played before mabye wrong because of not betting enough preflop or on the flop and later. Always try to think reasonable and do not let emotions overwhelm you because of a bad beat. Especially not, when you are still sitting at the table or playing other games.

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Turn into Rage Monster
This can be quite helpful lol ...

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

First of all, you have to understand that in poker you can never be 100% sure, it is unrealistic. I think you should always be prepared for different options and you will not have such uncontrolled emotional outbursts.

Take a few deep breaths and exhale slowly, then remind yourself how many times you bad beat someone. If that doesn't work scream really load and smash the keyboard.

No point in getting mad you played the cards the way you wanted to so no one else to blame but yourself.

Originally Posted by Kenzie 96

Success at poker requires more than a positive attitude. Any hand that is not the absolute nuts is not 100% certain to win & if the player holding the absolute nuts isn't paying attention or doesn't realize what he is holding & is persuaded to fold by a bet prior to showdown he loses with an unbeatable hand.
Might try posting a hand or two here that you were 100% sure you weren't losing with. The answers should provide you with some food for thought.
By the way a very large number of so called of bad beats were in fact not bad beats but poorly played hands.

Well, if it it's not played well that's blame on the player, but i was referring more to the cases that you got beat by luck. Well two hours ago i played ten hand with pairs, starting from 88 to AA. I lost them all and the winners had hands worst.

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Well, if it it's not played well that's blame on the player, but i was referring more to the cases that you got beat by luck. Well two hours ago i played ten hand with pairs, starting from 88 to AA. I lost them all and the winners had hands worst.

I assume you are equally upset when you get it in bad & suck out.

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Hi.
Daily meditation helps to control emotions very well. Try it and see for yourself.

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Step One.
First, Google "Negativity Bias".
Read about and understand why it happens.

Step Two.
Now Google "Negativity Bias Poker".
Now read about that and understand why it happens.

Step Three.
Go and play some poker.
If you are still getting frustrated and upset, go back to Step One. Note, do not go to Step Four.

Step Four.
Enjoy your poker.

Note:- If you have got to Step Four and are still getting frustrated, best advice I can give is, go back to Step One and spend the next month trying to understand Negativity Bias. Until you do understand, you will always be upset when you lose a hand you thought you should have won.

I hope that helps. Good luck with your poker.

Originally Posted by Lena M

Hi.
Daily meditation helps to control emotions very well. Try it and see for yourself.

Thank you, i will try for sure

Originally Posted by orchidra

Step One.
First, Google "Negativity Bias".
Read about and understand why it happens.

Step Two.
Now Google "Negativity Bias Poker".
Now read about that and understand why it happens.

Step Three.
Go and play some poker.
If you are still getting frustrated and upset, go back to Step One. Note, do not go to Step Four.

Step Four.
Enjoy your poker.

Note:- If you have got to Step Four and are still getting frustrated, best advice I can give is, go back to Step One and spend the next month trying to understand Negativity Bias. Until you do understand, you will always be upset when you lose a hand you thought you should have won.

I hope that helps. Good luck with your poker.

That was pretty accurate and i thank you so much that you are showing me this path and i believe it will help me a lot to understand my psychic and how the game affects me. I think this is a thing for everyone to try, to know yourself better. Thnx once again

Hi Biohazard858. I've said it, and many other players will say it too. We have all had days of the same beats. For example, all day this past Tuesday, I got beat with every hand I played. That was on cash tables and playing MTTs. But I never tilted even a little bit. One thing I can say, I was not feeling very good and should not have been playing anyway. The best thing you can do is to work any kind of tilt out of your game. You have to say Oh Well and move on. GL luck to you

Originally Posted by Gamer4455

Hi Biohazard858. I've said it, and many other players will say it too. We have all had days of the same beats. For example, all day this past Tuesday, I got beat with every hand I played. That was on cash tables and playing MTTs. But I never tilted even a little bit. One thing I can say, I was not feeling very good and should not have been playing anyway. The best thing you can do is to work any kind of tilt out of your game. You have to say Oh Well and move on. GL luck to you

Thnx for sharing. GL to you too

If it's a big unexpected loss or bad beat , I will call it a day , at least for that poker room , it depends on how much it has affected me , how much tilted I am

Stay calm and play more poker

Do what I am about to do.. turn off the PC and take a walk. Rough day.

if i'm playing cash i have to leave the game because after a Bad beat i always play agressive and make bad desicions and if i'm in a tournament i try to take a break and calm my angry

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Such situations need to be seen in the context of the long term. You are unlucky today, but if you are patient and disciplined, then in the long run you have a good chance of success. Enjoy the game and never get upset.

Tons and tons of so called bad beats and you may become somewhat numb to the situations. I would strongly suggest working at removing emotions from your game and then and only then will you not be phased by the day to day beats

All poker players hate losing to a bad beat or just losing in general. However if a bad beat upsets you for more than a few seconds, then that is a problem and something, you need to work on. Many people recommend Jared Tendler "The mental game of poker" as the bible on tilt. Other than that some general tips and ideas include:

1) Be properly bankrolled for the games, you play. Not going to make this a post about bankroll management, but use the forum search function.

2) Learn to multitable and put in volume. If a typical session contain 5-10 tournaments, busting from one due to a "bad beat" is much less painfull.

3) Study variance using the free calculators on Pokerdope.com. Most people tend to underestimate the magnitude of variance in poker, and therefore they get upset about even a small "downswing", which is totally normal.

4) Set a daily stop-loss, especially if you play cash games. Few people are able to still deliver their best, if they get hit by the deck again and again in a short amount of time.

Definitely more strategy game plan is required if a player can't deal with a bad beat. Especially if that happens often

I once had AKs as starting cards and on the flop I hit my royal flush and I see things like that as an unbeatable hand everything else are possible winning hands but the river decides whether you really win. Most of the time you lose a strong hand because you didn't play it well and you gave the opponent too many opportunities to turn the hand for himself and give him the opportunity to take the river for himself. Just standing in front doesn't mean that you win, sometimes it depends on how you play and sometimes you just have bad luck, but mostly it depends on the game how you play. But you can learn from it by analyzing your hands and seeing what you've done wrong

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Keep playing online poker and you will get lots of practice at it. If you really want some practice I suggest playing more on WPN. That software is an absolute joke and the undisputed king of two and three outers. The flopped nuts are also usually just a trap to get you to put your chips in as well. Regardless if you need some practice chilling out after some bad beats play here.

Originally Posted by partz

Definitely more strategy game plan is required if a player can't deal with a bad beat. Especially if that happens often

This makes almost no sense. You are basically telling the OP that he needs to quit getting in with the best of it and that he needs change his strategy away from having the better hand.

Emotions have no place in poker . . . To be a good poker player you must be a gracious loser and winner both . . . Check your emotions at the door when playing poker.

Originally Posted by fundiver199

All poker players hate losing to a bad beat or just losing in general. However if a bad beat upsets you for more than a few seconds, then that is a problem and something, you need to work on. Many people recommend Jared Tendler "The mental game of poker" as the bible on tilt. Other than that some general tips and ideas include:

1) Be properly bankrolled for the games, you play. Not going to make this a post about bankroll management, but use the forum search function.

2) Learn to multitable and put in volume. If a typical session contain 5-10 tournaments, busting from one due to a "bad beat" is much less painfull.

3) Study variance using the free calculators on Pokerdope.com. Most people tend to underestimate the magnitude of variance in poker, and therefore they get upset about even a small "downswing", which is totally normal.

4) Set a daily stop-loss, especially if you play cash games. Few people are able to still deliver their best, if they get hit by the deck again and again in a short amount of time.

I will try it. Thnx for the suggestion

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

This is poker. If you can't get comfortable with that, perhaps this game is not for you...

Wow I don't even know what to tell you the other day I had 18$ in my account and I made a four of jacks in the cash game and I lost my face with a quad I lost to the royal flush Wow I ended up with the bank oooooo unfair to a poor bastard like me and guess what i did i turned off all the power equipment and i was very angry and i spent 3 days without playing poker and then the anger passed and i never bet high value in cash game.
But tilted with Bad Beats everyone gets angry or irate but after about 3 days we forget and Thank God.

Originally Posted by PatriceM915

Wow I don't even know what to tell you the other day I had 18$ in my account and I made a four of jacks in the cash game and I lost my face with a quad I lost to the royal flush Wow I ended up with the bank oooooo unfair to a poor bastard like me and guess what i did i turned off all the power equipment and i was very angry and i spent 3 days without playing poker and then the anger passed and i never bet high value in cash game.
But tilted with Bad Beats everyone gets angry or irate but after about 3 days we forget and Thank God.

I undertand you very well. It seems like at the moment that you believe you are the strongest hand the universe conspire agaist you. lol When you play very tight because you don't have money it seems like you run also out of luck 😂😂
Good luck next time 😀

Find a way to channel anger and find a way you can cool off.
Stress ball, take a walk, take a break, laugh at the situation or find something funny online to laugh at. If playing online and no one in the physical room with you some expletive and venting helps.

Take a rest.

Anyway, told myself it's a game.

Smile and continue the game in a good mood)))Angry there is no point because you yourself are to blame for the fact that you sat down to play this game

Play more tables at the same time.
You'll have enough on your mind that you cannot get bogged down with single hands.
Playing more, period, really should take care of this. If it doesn't...if you can't just roll with the punches and accept that variance hits everyone...well, then it's time to find another hobby. You don't need a hobby that pisses you off. Life is too short!

That said -- you should only be 100% sure you're gonna win when you have the nuts. You might chop, but you never lose when you're 100% sure.
...so you might want to recalibrate your Certainty Meter.

Cheers,
ObbleeXY

Originally Posted by ObbleeXY

Play more tables at the same time.
You'll have enough on your mind that you cannot get bogged down with single hands.
Playing more, period, really should take care of this. If it doesn't...if you can't just roll with the punches and accept that variance hits everyone...well, then it's time to find another hobby. You don't need a hobby that pisses you off. Life is too short!

That said -- you should only be 100% sure you're gonna win when you have the nuts. You might chop, but you never lose when you're 100% sure.
...so you might want to recalibrate your Certainty Meter.

Cheers,
ObbleeXY

I will try this to play to three or four tables at the same time. Thnx for the idea

Just because your hand has a high probability to win doesn't mean it's guaranteed to. Unless you have the absolute nuts by the river, your opponent will always have some equity against you and if they have equity, they have a chance to beat you.

With that said, there is no such thing as a bad beat. It doesn't matter how much of a favorite you are in the hand. You could have your opponent drawing to 1 single card with only a 2% to beat you and even if they catch, it's not a bad beat.

Why? Perspective. Poker isn't a game of individual hands and results. Poker is all about the long term results and if you're making the +ev decisions majority of the time. Instead of looking at it as losing 2% of the time, think about how you're winning 98% of the time instead. That's where your profit comes from. Of course, you aren't going to run into a lot of situations where you're getting it in as 98% favorite and getting called but the same applies to situations where you're a 60/40 or a 70/30 favorite and you get it in. You're still winning majority of the time in the long term.

My question is what do you consider a bad beat? If A A gets busted I don't consider that a bad beat, in my book that's just poker. When you have a full house such as 10's full of kings and someone else catches A's full of kings that I consider a bad beat.

The best way to deal with the anger after a bad beat is don't get angry for now you have to win the chips back that you just lost in the bad beat (that's if you are still in the game).

Just remember you are playing a game that "any two cards can win!!!!!". Unless you have a royal straight flush there is no certainty you have the best hand and that is why it's called gambling!!

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

First of all, I never sure, always wishing just don't take it down this time....

depends on you, and your personality. example, swear or break something.... or do nothing if you can stand it...

this one always pop up in my mind when someone mention this. (How both movies starting scene with great Metallica songs....)

Tallahassee says sometimes you must destroy something to keep your mind together in our world. Enjoy the little things!!! (I didn't find the video about breaking the nice van by a baseball bat...):

You Tube

SWEAR out loud!!!

Not sure why I do that .... must be a fight or fright psycology thing...

Please tell me Tammi and I were made for another : )

Thank you for listening!

..Bluff..

If you do the bad bet, its is because of one of two reason: one reason is that, you had a bad luck,. You made a right, professional decision, but you lose the bet. This situation doesnt make you so angry,
Second reason is because you made a stupid risk, you didn't control yourself enough, you wasn't patient. So you lose because you wasn't professional, you made stupid move - in this situation you will feel anger.

man, it's really hard to say what to do to not get angry, because I believe everyone will be angry when that happens, but there's something you can do to maintain psychological control, after all, poker is a game of mind. For example, you can forget what happened or just take a break to cool off, like, go get a coffee, go get a drink, go talk to your girlfriend. Because playing with your head full, playing exhausted is not advisable.

I found in golf that if you naturally get angry, it's better to just get it out a little rather than to keep it bottled up where it'll explode later and cause problems. Same thing in poker, you see the best players just blow off a bit of steam after a bad beat or play and generally not get too tilted.

Originally Posted by Biohazard858

Guys, can you give me some advice how to deal with anger and frustration after loosing a hand that you were 100% sure that you would've won?

Study the hand. Post the hand history on this forum and maybe others. Ask for advice and read the responses. Look at the positions, stack sizes, pot odds etc. After a while you will take comfort in the fact you will know what to do in a spot lime this.

Originally Posted by cardplayer52

Study the hand. Post the hand history on this forum and maybe others. Ask for advice and read the responses. Look at the positions, stack sizes, pot odds etc. After a while you will take comfort in the fact you will know what to do in a spot lime this.

Than you for the advice! 🙏🙏

Very difficult to deal with tilt when you start playing. With time it becomes business as usual.

P.S. Still remember losing a 350BB pot with KK against 88 and Q9s.

No way to avoid it. Just go for it.

It is difficult and everyone reacts differently, but I think it is best to take a few minutes to let the anger pass.
Then analyze the play, if we play badly learn from the mistakes and if we play well stay calm because most of the time in the same play we will win
I repeat it is not as easy as saying it but you have to keep playing and not hurt yourself

This is poker! there is no guarantee that you will win.
Whatever hands you have, we can only determine the expected outcome, which does not guarantee success.
I can’t tell you how to deal with the anger I advise: change your attitude to poker, expect to lose, and accept that this is such a game!

If you feel angry after playing poker, you need to sort that out as it is probably not healthy, and most likely costs you money. The easiest fix would just be to take a break when you get angry, but this does not solve the core issue.

I rarely do that.
This is because I keep in mind that even if it seems to win in mathematics, it does not necessarily mean that I will win.
Please do so by all means.

Just bottle it up and rage on the drive home.