NootNoot
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hi all,
I've been watching some Youtube lately and one concept I came across was a coach/player talking about his estimated equity in a pot at the river before deciding whether to bet for value, bet as a bluff, and how much to bet if betting.
We all do something similar in a way, thinking whether or not we are strong, very strong, or if we can bet thin for value etc.
What I found interesting was that he was putting numbers on it. He was using hand reading to take his opponent's perceived pre-flop range then filter out certain holdings and combos based on how the hand had progressed so far before making his decision at the end.
He was also talking about how many bluffs an opponent might still have left after all this filtering if faced with a bet. He'd then use his observation of the player plus HUD stats and player pool tendencies to help him decide if a spot was likely being underbluffed or overbluffed in certain situations.
He was saying things I think I've got 60% equity here, or 80% equity in another spot. He had thresholds for when to bet for value and how much.
When faced with a bet it's much easier, just work out the pot odds to see how often you need to be good to call. We can all do that to a degree. It was the part where he was expressing things as a number before betting himself that I found most interesting.
Is this something we need to learn? Do you do it? Or is just sort of roughly thinking we're fairly strong, solidly strong, or very strong enough?
I know we can look at holdings and board textures to practice this kind of thing with tools like Flopzilla or even Pokerstove as a free option to produce numbers. I think you can do it in Equilabs too.
I'm only in the microstakes so I don't necessarily think it's too important for me yet. This player plays NL100 and NL200 zoom but I found it fascinating.
How many of you do this kind of thing and frame it in numbers rather than in broader terms? What sort of stakes do you play at if you do it?
I've been watching some Youtube lately and one concept I came across was a coach/player talking about his estimated equity in a pot at the river before deciding whether to bet for value, bet as a bluff, and how much to bet if betting.
We all do something similar in a way, thinking whether or not we are strong, very strong, or if we can bet thin for value etc.
What I found interesting was that he was putting numbers on it. He was using hand reading to take his opponent's perceived pre-flop range then filter out certain holdings and combos based on how the hand had progressed so far before making his decision at the end.
He was also talking about how many bluffs an opponent might still have left after all this filtering if faced with a bet. He'd then use his observation of the player plus HUD stats and player pool tendencies to help him decide if a spot was likely being underbluffed or overbluffed in certain situations.
He was saying things I think I've got 60% equity here, or 80% equity in another spot. He had thresholds for when to bet for value and how much.
When faced with a bet it's much easier, just work out the pot odds to see how often you need to be good to call. We can all do that to a degree. It was the part where he was expressing things as a number before betting himself that I found most interesting.
Is this something we need to learn? Do you do it? Or is just sort of roughly thinking we're fairly strong, solidly strong, or very strong enough?
I know we can look at holdings and board textures to practice this kind of thing with tools like Flopzilla or even Pokerstove as a free option to produce numbers. I think you can do it in Equilabs too.
I'm only in the microstakes so I don't necessarily think it's too important for me yet. This player plays NL100 and NL200 zoom but I found it fascinating.
How many of you do this kind of thing and frame it in numbers rather than in broader terms? What sort of stakes do you play at if you do it?
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