Cash game or sit and go?

[locha2013]

I for examle like the full tilt poker satellites and tournements, because you havent to pay lots of money and the mtops have big wins. 15$ for a main event with a prizepool about 500k. Thats not bad at all.

 

[waikato08]

I think you might feel you are better at SnG games than cash ring games because people tend to play alot tighter in the SnG's, especially 9 handed or less. 6 handed- I feel is SUPER tight, because-like in every tourney, no-one wants to be the first player out.
I think you just need to play a cash table like you would a short handed SnG

 

[teh_colonel_saigon]

cash games can be way better than sngs, you can leave anytime (if you start tilting or if you have to use the restroom lol), and pick the players you are up against.

at least on my poker site, better players usually are in cash games, but ppl do play super tight in sngs too

 

[bartonjoel]

less variance and more info

Thanks to all of you for answering. I am doing fine MTT. I just wish I could avoid the bad beats.I play so often that the bad beats are becoming predictable. AND if i play it out to the river usually the pot isnt even half as full as if i were go all in and knock them out with a good hand. say AA... all in preflop and get called by 88... if i win then awesome but the many times i have lost from a bad beat has taken every bit of profit i win. But say i had aa and they had 88 how can i manage to make it to the river making them think they have the best hand and make them bet twice as much... i just cant beat the bad beats when i have a good enough hand to make some money or THEY FOLD. idk.

don't worry about getting 50bbs everytime. Sometimes the flop will come down all one suit and they flat your cbet. and the turn is same suit and they donk into you, easy fold if you don't have the A of that suit. If you jammed PF and got the call you would have lost all 50bbs and now you only lost half.

But in all honesty, if they are going to call the jam PF who cares if they get lucky you did you part by getting it in as an 80/20. But the most times you 4 or 5 bet they will fold and you lose any money you could have got when three under cards hit flop or they flop top pair. Being able to fold big hands is a necessary skill in MTT success and by not always 4 and 5 betting AA, it will make it harder for the regs to play against you. If the random fish gets lucky in a tourney or two against you, realize that is good for the game and start up another tournament.

Variance is a Mother F&^&** and it is the reason MTTs are hard to show a monster profit. But with the right mindset you will grind out a nice ROI that can deal with the random jam of 62s beating your AKs. I always think about the fact I got it in good and that is all I can do, (Kinda like the AA saying.. something about being ok with the things we cant control).

GL at the tables.

 

[bartonjoel]

Total Agreement

Not with right BR.
It's been pretty much proven that cash games have the smallest downswings compared to sit n goes and mtt. Mtt being the most brutal by nature of their prize structure.

Among cash games, FR games at 2nl by far has the smallest variance d/t a combination of passive fish whom which you can pot control with ridiculous ease and exploiting is so easy. On the other hand, high stakes heads-up is puke inducing from what I hear, just not sure if it's worse than sit n goes though.


But here's the caveat with sit n gos, if you're gonna play them, you pretty much have to settle with the fact that with every passing day, more and more players will understand optimal push/fold strategy or at least can come pretty close to it such that whatever edge is gonna be small. Single table SnGs are pretty much 'solved' and reg infested so your best bet is Mtt SnGs where fish are lured by the "huge" grand prize


So yeah, play cash... It's the nuts.

+1 ... Nash equilibrium and the "Magic" range is become common knowledge and it is making the variance in SNGs not an option. grind 4-10 tables of 6max and watch the profit roll in.

 

[zenazona]

do u advantage hyper turbo sit go ?

 

[mitea2013]

i prefer to cash table, you can make a lot of money in such a sort time

 

[deluns28]

You could actually mix them. 2 tables of SNGs and 2 tables of cash games. This works for me. Try it sometime. Goodluck!

 

[Rational Madman]

Brutal Truth: IQ and game preference.

The lower your IQ, the less you will enjoy cash games and the more you will enjoy tournaments. This is judgemental and brutal etc but I am not one to sugarcoat.

I am someone of above average intelligence and not a math genius by nature (I trained myself to always work out the higher probability hand through hard practise, not intelligence).

If you understand cards and have the emotional resilience to combine with that probability judging ability you will be a brilliant cash game player. Cash games work in a simple way; taking the least amount of risks and overplaying when you do take risks equals profit, You can even genuinely bet proportional to your estimated likelihood to win, being honest is not a disadvantage in cash games but thinking everyone else is being tight or honest will be a downfall, be ready to overbet if you are against an LAG donk (it can backfire but that's variance).

Tournaments attract people who are less intelligent and want to be in an environment where intelligent play is less likely to win. In tournaments, especially MTTs, playing intelligent and taking aggressive pots in any situation where you have a statistical advantage will backfire at soe point and all the hands you won will end up amounting to nothing due to that one bad beat. At the same time, tournaments that are less people and less tables will perhaps not punch good players in the stomach as harsh but will end up revolving around 'he/she who plays the dumbest will win most pots'. Playing like a donk is essential in smaller tournaments because you will be bluffed to starvation until you are the smallstack coward with his/her back against the wall and then you have to risk your aces getting cracked (if you're even lucky to get a remotely good hand) against someone with 4 times your stack who played liek a moron up until then.

Cash games consistently punish people who cannot think and cannot stifle their impulses in the face of hard statistics and logic. Tournaments consistently punish people who are not passionate enough to risk when the stats dont' support them for the sake of remaining impossible to read or predict.

I am a professional poker player, I literally play for a living at 5/10 stakes. I am not talking out of my a**, I am talking about the truth. When I play tournaments (and from time to time I do) I play utterly idiotic. It puts other players in a situation where if they bet big against me I know they have something good as they wouldn't dare risk my idiotic bluff calling (which I do to simply get a reputation in their minds). If you do not have a loose image in a tournament, you are playing wrong.