AK - all in or call

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AK .. come out swinging or at least bunt

If you are under the gun then a 3 bet usually eliminates some of the limpers ... it also puts the table on notice that you have some strength. I love AK and especially love to see a flop .. if the flop has a king or ace and no pair I get very aggressive. If I am in a very dominant chip position and hit as per above then I go all in. I win way more often with AK than with AA or KK.
 
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AK to be very hard to get a good hand, usually this combination did not win ...
 
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There are a lot of factors & info that you haven't provided. Is it AK offsuit OR AK suited?

Are you talking about being the initial raiser or a 3-better or just limping?

AK suited is the 4th strongest hand to start with so it shouldn't be a hand to be passive with unless you are trying to trap.

Trying to figure out exactly what U mean, but just because you get AK doesn't automatically mean you should go all-in or even that you are in the lead.
 
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it will be allin many times thewin.az all we would like to see a sheet at this time,
 
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What do you think about AK hand? I noticed that this combination is almost never wins. Now I try to play with AK quietly

AK if has a bet I raise, if don't. I bet. But you need to know how to play e early position, normally I call because sometimes has one or two who likes to raise .

There are a lot of factors & info that you haven't provided. Is it AK offsuit OR AK suited?

Are you talking about being the initial raiser or a 3-better or just limping?

AK suited is the 4th strongest hand to start with so it shouldn't be a hand to be passive with unless you are trying to trap.

Trying to figure out exactly what U mean, but just because you get AK doesn't automatically mean you should go all-in or even that you are in the lead.

Which is The three ones ? AA KK QQ ?
 
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Depends mostly on stack sizes. No reason to go all in pre with full stacks or more in a cash game, or 60 BB+ mid-late tournaments.

When deep stacked I tend to call most 4-bets in position and fold/push most times I'm 4 betted out of position. Depends on how much information I have on villain.
 
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Lets just say it is not often to get those hands. I would go all in, especially later in tournament.
 
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AK I Play Raise or Reraise, but always I Try to see the flop.
All in Always when we are short stacks.
 
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With this cards first to see flop,i don't like this cards.
 
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Its really depends on a lot of things such as table dynamic,villain stat/tendency,type of game(cash/mtt),phases of sng/mtts etc etc.
 
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If it is suited, and I am the short stack, it is an all-in hand.
Otherwise, I'll probably raise 3BB with that hand just to protect it. The flop really gives you a sense of whether the useful though, so I know many people that would just call.
To each their own, I guess.
 
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Let me correct my previous post. Depends on the site. There is one site in particular that makes you lose with qq, kk, ak, kq. All the premium hands lose to 45, 68, 7j, lol.
 
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What do you think about AK hand? I noticed that this combination is almost never wins. Now I try to play with AK quietly
The biggest problem I have with AK is that pre-flop pocket 2s have me dominated. If I don't catch I have to hope I didn't push. My experience is many players stay with any pocket pair. So quietly is the way to play it til you catch.:D
 
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No, with AK you shoould re-raise or all in, because you have about 50 percent versus QQ- and it is a good chance to win.
 
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What do you think about AK hand? I noticed that this combination is almost never wins. Now I try to play with AK quietly

Almost never wins?? are u kidding?? U just say that because u always remember the time u lost but never remember when win. Thats a great hand and I see all in just when u r low stack against the blind, or to pay some fish.
 
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It depends if I'm in a comfortable position and a comfortable stack also , I will to the ground
 
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depends on the situation and the opponent, usually I do simple 4bet
 
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If it is suited, and I am the short stack, it is an all-in hand.
Otherwise, I'll probably raise 3BB with that hand just to protect it. The flop really gives you a sense of whether the useful though, so I know many people that would just call.
To each their own, I guess.

Firstly, short stack it really doesnt matter if its sooooted. Shove pre.

Secondly you are not raising AK for protection, protection is never why you are betting. AK pre flop is betting for value.
 
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Yet, AK is a much easier hand to play than 22 post flop. AK will pick up more post flop pots with c-bets than 22 will in the long run, whether it hits or misses. With 22, you practically have to hit a set in order to continue.

Damn, never thought so. That's a good advice!
 
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i guess youre not lucky enough :))...if im in the first stage of the tourney i raise if im in the middle or late stage where the blinds are big i go all in
 
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AK suited or unsuited is a very strong hand preflop and you should be raising/3betting preflop with this hand as often as you can. Like most big hands, you want to limit the number of players that see a flop against you, so raising for value and to isolate is what you're looking for. Against almost all players, playing AK aggressively is much better than playing it passively.

Hitting and missing flops with AK:

AK is going to pair on the flop about 1/3 of the time, always giving you TP/TK which is often times the best hand at show down. Even if an A or K hits on a dry board, you should still c-bet as the aggressor because your opponents will call you with much worse on really standard c-bet looking flops. For example 88 might call a c-bet on an A 2 7 flop.

AK is going to miss the flop 2/3 of the time, but they still have equity to win the hand. If the flop is J 3 7, even though AK missed, being the aggressor and c-betting can easily pick up the pot. And if the opponent calls, you have a ~12% chance to hit the turn. ~24% chance if you can see a turn a river if you shove and get called, for example.

So, c-betting most flops with AK is going to earn you the pot more often than not even if you do miss it, but you have to keep in mind your opponents raising and 3bet calling range. The tighter the range, the less equity you have against them when c-bet on missed flops. The wider the range, the more equity you have.

AK vs other hands:

I think a common misunderstanding a lot of newer players have are the preflop odds to win with AK vs other hands.

67 is 40% to win against AK's 60%, but it only applies if you are guaranteed to see all 5 cards. Otherwise, AK has much more equity over 67 on most flops when both miss and even when 67 hits a single pair after calling a preflop and is facing c-bet aggression. Even on flop of 6-Q-2, it could be hard to call a c-bet with MP/WK since the turn can bring a lot of over cards that can shut it down, especially if AK fires a 2nd barrel.

The same goes for 22 vs AK. Yes, this is a classic race situation, but again, that only applies if all 5 cards are seen. AK as a lot of equity against 22 because 88% of the time over cards are going to flop. So, even if AK misses, it's very hard for 22 to continue on a 5-8-10 flop facing a c-bet.

If you think 22 and QQ against AK is practically the same thing, this is not true at all. Yes, AK vs QQ is 50/50 preflop if all cards to be seen. However, AK doesn't have as much equity on a missed flop against QQ as it does 22. A 3-J-7 flop is going to be very hard for 22 to continue against a c-bet, but it's very easy for QQ to continue. Again, the tighter the raise/3bet calling range your opponent has, the less equity you have on missed flops.

Shoving vs calling shoves with AK:

Aggression is the key when playing AK because you can either win it by having the best hand or by getting your opponent to fold. So, you would rather be one to be betting/shoving than being the one calling shoves on missed flops.

AK, on a missed flop, has ~24% chance of hitting on the turn or river when facing a shove. So, you'll need to be getting over 3.15:1 pot odds to make this call a profitable one. However, if we flip and we're the one's shoving with AK on a missed flop, say 7-J-3, we still have equity to hit when called, but make it hard for some hands to call with, like 55, so we gain when they fold. Being the aggressor gives us 2 ways to win vs only 1.

Whether you should standard c-bet missed flop or shove it with AK depends on effect stack sizes. If stacks are deep, then you're better off making a standard c-bet. You'll either win the pot uncontested and if your opponent calls, you can re-evaluate on the turn. However, with deep stacks, you don't want to shove on a missed flops because your opponent is still folding if they miss, but they're only calling your shove with hands that have you beat. Even with your ~24% to hit on turn or river, you're not getting the right pot odds to make this type of play profitable.

One thing I've started doing in the mid-late stages of MTTs where blinds and antes are high is open shoving and 3bet shoving with 30BBs and less preflop. It might seem like overkill to open shove AK with 30BBs, but you're getting called by a ton of weaker hands that you dominate (weaker AX/KX hands), in 50-50s vs 22-QQ, 60-40s vs all other non paired hands (that don't include an A or K), still have 30% equity vs KK, and only way behind AA. So, if you get your money in and getting called, you're very rarely in a terrible situation. I prefer doing this in the later stages when antes are big because the times you do pick up the pot uncontested, it's a more significant pad to your stack. Without antes, I drop down to shoving 20BBs and less with AK for the same reasons above.

On top of that, you're also gaining max value with AK when you do shove and get your opponent to commit their chips preflop. Again, you're very rarely in a terrible situation when you get your money in preflop with AK. Lets say you open shove 25BBs UTG with AK and you get a call. With blinds and antes, the pot is ~52BB.

-VS weaker AX/KX hands, you're picking up this pot 70% of the time.
-VS 22-QQ, you're picking up this pot 50% of the time
-VS non paired hands without an A or K, you're picking up the pot 60% of the time.
-VS KK, you're picking up the pot 30% of the time.
-VS AA, only 10% of the time.

So, if you can get your opponent to commit 25BBs with AQ preflop, this is great for you because you're winning that pot most of the time and picking up an extra 25+BBs. Compare this to standard raising say 3x BBs and your opponent calling. 2/3 of the time, your opponent misses the flop and is folding to a c-bet, so you only pick up a ~8BB pot and lose out on picking up on the other 22BBs your opponent would've committed preflop.

The same goes if your opponent has a hand like 55. They're only making a set 1-in-8 times and over cards are flopping most of the time vs small pairs, so they're likely folding to any c-bet and you're picking up a small pot. However, getting your opponent to commit their chips preflop and you being in a 50-50 with AK situation is great for you.

So, do what it takes to get all of your and all of your opponents chips in preflop, because, again, you're very rarely in a terrible situation when you do.
 
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AK play all positions.

- all give up (RASER)
Someone paid .... (RASER)
-Someone increased .. (RASER)
someone raised after you (CALL 20)

an AK hand, can usually be called a strong hand, but there are many situations that must be analyzed, which left cards on the flop, and if you hit something, often play AK slow can be a mistake, and often hits.
 
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All in...or raise/reraise...not just call….….ist a bad way to call with AK pre.flop....on the flop you can fold if the table dont help you
 
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AK be a strong bet before -flop , and then to continue
aggressively , if the opponent makes a before -flop all in and always follow, the course of pro
fessional poker players never even saw someone fold AK before the flop .
 
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