women and poker

[Nutcracker69]

I hope you realize that most players are terrible at low stakes (which is where I assume you're playing). If you haven't learned that yet I'd like to invite you to my home game.

Anyways the tourney stats speak for themselves. Women poker players achieve tournament results at rates equal to or better than their participation rate. Or in otherwords if 3% of the entrants were females then 3% or more cash the event.

The bigger the data sample the more true the results are. Check out the leader board for end of day 3 of the main event right now. http://www.wsop.com/m/chipcounts/?grid=1232&tid=14968&dayof=149686

AT LEAST least 6 of the top 70 players in the WSOP ME going into day 4 Right now are female (8.5% of the chipleaders are female) yet only 3.9% of the total entrants were female. So females are twice as prevalent among the leaders as "average" players. Every year, every big event it's roughly the same.

So you've played with some terrible women? Huh. Weird. Me too. And I've played with about 100x as many terrible men.

What's interesting to me is that the best players treat me exactly like other poker players. Only idiots and fish underestimate me or let my gender affect their behavior at the table.

And I would care except I sorta love outplaying these idiots and letting them continue to think "women are terrible" and "emotional" and we just play on our "instincts" instead of logic. Please, by all means continue to believe whatever you believe about me because I LOVE fish n chips!

Welcome to the shitshow! By the way, I actually think that women do rely more on instinct than men but that's not a knock that's a good thing. Instincts of players like Jen Harman are 9 figure, HOF-worthy. Hell, even the hand I posted before (about how well she took a horrendous beat) shows that she almost had to shove her remaining chips given Cory's hesitation to continue on the turn and how little was behind. And yet, she "felt" like there was a good chance that he had THAT EXACT HAND and had just doubled up with a 2% win on the river. Sure, there are some men like Phil Ivey and Daniel Negraenu who can rely on instinct when necessary. But maybe that isn't working out so well for Phil with his 2m loss on both LV sites in 2015. Then again, what does he care? I saw a video of him taking the casino for 20m in baccarat. During filming of High Stakes Poker (where they already put 100k on the table) he is more concerned with betting the GDP of a small country on whether the flop will be red or black.

 

[qkamara6ina]

Man or woman on the poker table is not big difference. It's a game which we play with our mind not our body , well depends woman's body can be a part of the game but anyway..

 

[Nutcracker69]

A real woman who is probably at least 25x the player they are shows up and it's crickets and backsliding. lol

 

[SBEP]

I have stated facts here! YOU are clearly an ignorant jerkoff! (how much more clear do I need to make it for you? Aren't you 'smart' enough to understand that?)

This isn't an 'argument'... I'm just telling you like it is.

You don't fall for that crap? What crap? And where was I talking about feelings? I don't feel that you're an idiot... I KNOW it!

I'm guessing you didn't grow up with any sisters as I'm sure they would've kicked your a55. Or perhaps you did, & they did & now you''re all butt hurt with a chip on your shoulder towards women.

Where did u stated facts??? Calling me jerkoff was stating facts??? Thats the thing bout you social justice warriors, especially the feminist kind, YOU ALWAYS LACK FACTS, so u immediately resort to name calling and trying to attack the character of the person thus trying to take down the person and the fact he/she stated, like i said that shyte doesn't work on me, so u can go ahead and call me what ever makes you FEEL better, but it wont change the facts, and heres one more fun fact for ya, do u know how men referred women b4 feminists cried about it and changed it to gentler sex or fairer sex, coz it did not suit them to hear the truth, u were referred by men as the weaker sex, and thats the god damm truth, so u can cry about it and sugar coat it as much as u want it will not change the truth, but thats the thins about the truth, it can make u cry or feel pride, it all depends on the truth
As for hating women, i dont, i too had a mother, which she thought me a lot on women and what are they like... when i was a kid for every little mistake i made she used to kick the shyte out of me, of course i was going to make mistakes, i was a kid, i lacked the experience to know better, but that did not stop her, so as soon as i grow tall enough and strong enough, and that was around 6th grade i think, i was able to stand up to her, even dou i could physically kick the shyte out of her, i still resort to non violence, when ever she tried to beat me i grabbed her hands and pushed her on the bed, i remember it well the first time it happened, she said "u little shyte" and tried again to stand up and hit me, again i grabbed her hands and pushed her on the bed, so the next thing that happened revealed to me what women are really about now she knew she couldn't beat me any more, so she tried to manipulate my father to do it for her, lucky for me my father was a reasonable man, when he found out for how little she gave me a beating, he said "son go out and play, i need to have a word with your mother" in all my life my father only once layed a hand on me, and it was totally my fault, and i loved him for that.
And thats what u are, 90% of women, manipulative weaker beings, that will FAKE it till they MAKE it, even DIE with the LIE, as long as they have it their way, especially now a days where feminism has brain washed you to the point where some of you women really think u are stronger and better then man, and some of these crazy ass feminists get reality check when they provoke men physically, and reveal, the hard way, the true state of reality they are living in and not the fairy tale they were brain washed in to believing, the rest 10% were raised without a mother to teach them how to manipulate till they get what they want.
I know it sounds sexist, and i don't care anymore, cause in this non sense society we are all living in, some1 needs to state the obvious and the facts, whether u like it or not, those are the facts, so u can scream and shout as much as u like, that feminist shyte needs to be stopped, it was good at first, and i agree with what they used to stand for, but now they went in to non sense, BS, out of this world, no touch with reality turf, and all i did is call them out on their BS.

 

[BentleyBoy]

So! Men have finally realised that there are ways to be distracted at poker....... just in the same way that men get distracted from driving and also from their steady relationships.

Women have long been (wrongly) referred to as the 'fickle' sex, however, using tactics identified by the weaknesses and fickleness of men is a very sensible thing to do.

Most men will sneak a stare at any boobs...whether huge ones openly on display in bingo tops, or a subtle display of smaller boobs in a T or a side cut top. I think women who do not exploit this weakness in men are missing a trick.

most men are simply jealous that they have nothing physical that distracts the eye of women and therefore forget that they are being exploited because of their own foolishness and blame the 'trick' on women using an advantage.

I say...keep it up girls..... the blokes love it....even though they may lose their concentration and therefore chances of winning... most men are happy just to get a sneak peek at some boob. Just be prepared to subject of sneaky peeks!

Good luck ladies.

BB

 

[thetick33]

i was very surprised shocked in fact by the numbers of women at wsop main event i expect at this day and age to see a ton more women at this event and if poker is to truly grow those women who do play all kinds of other events based on the numbers need to show up for the big one and hopefully win it someday

 

[Shumkoolie]

I don't have any statistics that show the percentage of women that played the Main Event, but even if it's 10%, it's still not enough. It's great that more women are playing now than before, and are enjoying big tournament success more frequently now, hopefully the numbers continue to climb. It's healthy for the game. Poker is, speaking in generalities, a social game, and a table that has a mix of men and women is generally a more enjoyable game to play.

I just hope that at least one woman makes the Main Event Final table this year. I know we've been close in the recent past, especially in 2012 when Elisabeth Hille and Gaelle Baumann bubbled the final table, but how great would it be if it happens?

People are always talking about a poker boom as it relates to the legislation in the US, but you don't really hear about what the effect would be if a woman makes the November Nine? The whole N9 concept seems to have become a little bit stale and may have run its course, but this might be something that gives it the refresher it desperately needs.

As an aside, though it's not poker, but it's still essentially the same thing - I have played on all men's softball teams and co-ed teams, and I can honestly say that I enjoy playing on co-ed teams far more. For starters, when you have all of one gender, it can sometimes get a little catty (using this term for both men and women). Whereas, when you have a blend of the two, it just seems to be more fun. I've been on my current team now for five years and aside from being a good team that has won a couple championships, it's a great blend of people that makes it fun to come to the park to play, win or lose.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Nutcracker69]

Where did u stated facts??? Calling me jerkoff was stating facts??? Thats the thing bout you social justice warriors, especially the feminist kind, YOU ALWAYS LACK FACTS, so u immediately resort to name calling and trying to attack the character of the person thus trying to take down the person and the fact he/she stated, like i said that shyte doesn't work on me, so u can go ahead and call me what ever makes you FEEL better, but it wont change the facts, and heres one more fun fact for ya, do u know how men referred women b4 feminists cried about it and changed it to gentler sex or fairer sex, coz it did not suit them to hear the truth, u were referred by men as the weaker sex, and thats the god damm truth, so u can cry about it and sugar coat it as much as u want it will not change the truth, but thats the thins about the truth, it can make u cry or feel pride, it all depends on the truth
As for hating women, i dont, i too had a mother, which she thought me a lot on women and what are they like... when i was a kid for every little mistake i made she used to kick the shyte out of me, of course i was going to make mistakes, i was a kid, i lacked the experience to know better, but that did not stop her, so as soon as i grow tall enough and strong enough, and that was around 6th grade i think, i was able to stand up to her, even dou i could physically kick the shyte out of her, i still resort to non violence, when ever she tried to beat me i grabbed her hands and pushed her on the bed, i remember it well the first time it happened, she said "u little shyte" and tried again to stand up and hit me, again i grabbed her hands and pushed her on the bed, so the next thing that happened revealed to me what women are really about now she knew she couldn't beat me any more, so she tried to manipulate my father to do it for her, lucky for me my father was a reasonable man, when he found out for how little she gave me a beating, he said "son go out and play, i need to have a word with your mother" in all my life my father only once layed a hand on me, and it was totally my fault, and i loved him for that.
And thats what u are, 90% of women, manipulative weaker beings, that will FAKE it till they MAKE it, even DIE with the LIE, as long as they have it their way, especially now a days where feminism has brain washed you to the point where some of you women really think u are stronger and better then man, and some of these crazy ass feminists get reality check when they provoke men physically, and reveal, the hard way, the true state of reality they are living in and not the fairy tale they were brain washed in to believing, the rest 10% were raised without a mother to teach them how to manipulate till they get what they want.
I know it sounds sexist, and i don't care anymore, cause in this non sense society we are all living in, some1 needs to state the obvious and the facts, whether u like it or not, those are the facts, so u can scream and shout as much as u like, that feminist shyte needs to be stopped, it was good at first, and i agree with what they used to stand for, but now they went in to non sense, BS, out of this world, no touch with reality turf, and all i did is call them out on their BS.

So not only do you talk sht about women in general but you talk sht about your own mother??

You're a real fking catch!! Women must be throwing themselves at you. Unless, of course, you're gay. Which probably means you're the catcher.

 

[PapaC]

I know I would lose focus, but I probably would not get too crazy, but I would be playing way off my style, and then get confused. That's worst than TILT sometimes. But there I am sweating the girls, and I know I need to get back on track, but I more than likely will keep watching them until I lose a big pot and then I'm more confused than ever. Then I don't know what to do to put my game back together. Bottom line. No matter how I'm playing I know not to lose focus, don't tilt. and don't play hands that are way out of position, so that's a lie, because I been working on Position and trying to use all I can find at the table. Sometimes I like to fire across the table with 67s 9 10s.and even 54s. So I done went way off the subject. So to finish, it would not be something I would be wanting to get away from. LOL GL to you

 

[SBEP]

So not only do you talk sht about women in general but you talk sht about your own mother??

You're a real fking catch!! Women must be throwing themselves at you. Unless, of course, you're gay. Which probably means you're the catcher.

Again, another example of name calling and attacking character, another brain washed feminist, i only called you out on your BS, and cause u always lack facts, u immediately start with the name calling
And i am not gay, but u seem to have gay issues, coz u sound a lot like a homophobe...i dont hate women, i only treat them for what they truly are, manipulative biaches, call it what u want, romance, love, courting, chivalry, or what ever, paying for everything just to have sex with a woman in my book, that will always be prostitution.
Heres a reality check for u feminists

 

[jazzaxe]

Most of my playing is online. I block chat from the other players and don't engage in chat myself. The gender of my opponents really doesn't become an issue

 

[Nutcracker69]

Again, another example of name calling and attacking character, another brain washed feminist, i only called you out on your BS, and cause u always lack facts, u immediately start with the name calling
And i am not gay, but u seem to have gay issues, coz u sound a lot like a homophobe...i dont hate women, i only treat them for what they truly are, manipulative biaches, call it what u want, romance, love, courting, chivalry, or what ever, paying for everything just to have sex with a woman in my book, that will always be prostitution.
Heres a reality check for u feminists Dave Chappelle - Chivalry Is Dead - YouTube

Are you seriously that stupid? I'd be very worried about any woman even remotely in your life. Especially since you have no problem with assault, apparently. Now you're not going to pay for anything because otherwise it's prostitution.

I've got a mindfk for you. My last relationship with my ex-fiance she paid for at least 90-95% of everything we did from day one. She had plans to get a place for us to live together. And *gasp* we had lots of sex! So was I a prostitute? Because based on your Dark Ages logic it would appear so.

 

[SBEP]

Are you seriously that stupid? I'd be very worried about any woman even remotely in your life. Especially since you have no problem with assault, apparently. Now you're not going to pay for anything because otherwise it's prostitution.

I've got a mindfk for you. My last relationship with my ex-fiance she paid for at least 90-95% of everything we did from day one. She had plans to get a place for us to live together. And *gasp* we had lots of sex! So was I a prostitute? Because based on your Dark Ages logic it would appear so.

When did i say i assaulted a woman??? Huh when... in all my life i have not once hit, kicked or harmed a woman in any shape or form, u stupid fak, even dou i could have kicked the living shyte out of my mother and had sweet revenge for all the beating she gave me b4 i was able to defend my self, i have never, NEVER, let me stress that NEEEEEEVEEEEEEEEERRRR hit her or harmed her, so u can take my word for it or dont, personally i dont give a fak.
As for your girlfriend paying for everything, and still had tons of sex with you, yeah *gasp* its still prostitution, but only in this case the man, meaning YOU, were the whore, if u have split everything 50/50, and both had consensual sex, then and only then i cant call it prostitution, its not dark age logic, i just have the balls u lack to call spade a spade

 

[Jacki Burkhart]

As for hating women, i dont, i too had a mother, which she thought me a lot on women and what are they like... when i was a kid for every little mistake i made she used to kick the shyte out of me, of course i was going to make mistakes, i was a kid, i lacked the experience to know better, but that did not stop her, so as soon as i grow tall enough and strong enough, and that was around 6th grade i think, i was able to stand up to her, even dou i could physically kick the shyte out of her, i still resort to non violence, when ever she tried to beat me i grabbed her hands and pushed her on the bed, i remember it well the first time it happened, she said "u little shyte" and tried again to stand up and hit me, again i grabbed her hands and pushed her on the bed, so the next thing that happened revealed to me what women are really about now she knew she couldn't beat me any more, so she tried to manipulate my father to do it for her, lucky for me my father was a reasonable man, when he found out for how little she gave me a beating, he said "son go out and play, i need to have a word with your mother" in all my life my father only once layed a hand on me, and it was totally my fault, and i loved him for that.
And thats what u are, 90% of women, manipulative weaker beings, that will FAKE it till they MAKE it, even DIE with the LIE, as long as they have it their way, especially now a days where feminism has brain washed you to the point where some of you women really think u are stronger and better then man, and some of these crazy ass feminists get reality check when they provoke men physically, and reveal, the hard way, the true state of reality they are living in and not the fairy tale they were brain washed in to believing, the rest 10% were raised without a mother to teach them how to manipulate till they get what they want.
I know it sounds sexist, and i don't care anymore, cause in this non sense society we are all living in, some1 needs to state the obvious and the facts, whether u like it or not, those are the facts, so u can scream and shout as much as u like, that feminist shyte needs to be stopped, it was good at first, and i agree with what they used to stand for, but now they went in to non sense, BS, out of this world, no touch with reality turf, and all i did is call them out on their BS.

I am truly sorry that you suffered child abuse at the hands of your mother and it has poisoned your view of women as a result. That will be a scar that impedes progress throughout your entire life since you carry a distorted and negative view of 50% of the population.

I will not appeal to you with logic and facts (since I expect that will fail) but rather compassion. You are a living breathing example of the lifelong effects of child abuse and I hope that you find peace in your life.

 

[Tammy]

Well this has turned into a ridiculous shit storm. It's an old thread, I'm closing it.

And as a side note, we should all take and learn from the example of Miss Jacki and deal with one another with grace and respect, rather than spew hatred and nonsense.